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i want that but on bernie's inauguration day, gamemaster anthony style
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah. Church. I like how apparently to listen to a podcast with women you must just be some horny bro. Not sexist at all..... what is it with radlibs being sexist..... You're like a horse who stomps once for unfunny faux accusations of sexism and twice for calling people who think you're stupid liberals.
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will getting sub tweeted, some v funny replies here https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1225222866343325699?s=21
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Trash Ops posted:lol at anyone who listens to cum town and red scare using lib as an insult listening to cum town to own the libs 
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:will getting sub tweeted, some v funny replies here https://twitter.com/SoFearMe/status/1225225399451443200
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Feb 6, 2020 02:43
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I'm listening and lol at Cryin' Will Menaker
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Feb 6, 2020 02:48
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will’s a big ol cry baby, our sweet little lord fauntelroy
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Feb 6, 2020 03:03
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enjoying Matt's dark tower bit atm
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Feb 6, 2020 03:55
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should’ve said spirit totem
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a fatguy baldspot posted:should’ve said fursona
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Prince Myshkin posted:You're like a horse who stomps once for unfunny faux accusations of sexism and twice for calling people who think you're stupid liberals. I mean. Don’t be one then. LOL. Chapo had a great episode. They are right the fact the dnc has to show its rotten core this early is great. Would like Matt to maybe return to his realization three or so episodes ago that the Dems are going the way of the whigs.
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Pop the Left did a stream tonight about the Iowa results. They talk pretty seriously about the limits of a Sanders presidency, whether the movement behind him represents a genuine change in politics as usual, whether the radical left has lowered it's collective horizon to get behind him, and most importantly what "critical support" for social democrats by socialists and communists actually looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONjmmyDeAR8 I know some folks around here have an uncanny feeling about the sudden surge of enthusiasm for Bernie and want a reality check, so here it is.
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Pop the Left did a stream tonight about the Iowa results. They talk pretty seriously about the limits of a Sanders presidency, whether the movement behind him represents a genuine change in politics as usual, whether the radical left has lowered it's collective horizon to get behind him, and most importantly what "critical support" for social democrats by socialists and communists actually looks like.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:will’s a big ol cry baby, our sweet little lord fauntelroy He had the vapors. 
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Pop the Left did a stream tonight about the Iowa results. They talk pretty seriously about the limits of a Sanders presidency, whether the movement behind him represents a genuine change in politics as usual, whether the radical left has lowered it's collective horizon to get behind him, and most importantly what "critical support" for social democrats by socialists and communists actually looks like. I wish Varn would talk more about how much he hates Chapo, it's great.
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Feb 7, 2020 09:32
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Crowsbeak posted:I mean. Don’t be one then. LOL. drat dude, epic!
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Pop the Left did a stream tonight about the Iowa results. They talk pretty seriously about the limits of a Sanders presidency, whether the movement behind him represents a genuine change in politics as usual, whether the radical left has lowered it's collective horizon to get behind him, and most importantly what "critical support" for social democrats by socialists and communists actually looks like. With the Sanders presidency being all but assured at this moment, this warning away from supporting him is perfectly timed. Thank you for the valuable insight computer men.
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Feb 7, 2020 13:08
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advising against electoralism in the current political moment is stupid. there is no viable non-electoral push which can get concessions at the present time, and there won't be until the next big collapse at the earliest. sanders is by no means radical enough, but he's a drat sight better than anything else that's been viable in american electoral politics probably ever
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Feb 7, 2020 13:13
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the PSL is supporting Sanders with money and people, and not running candidates in any swing state lol
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Feb 7, 2020 13:15
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the trillbillies and chapo both seem to be getting a little too congratulatory about bernie's chances. the unlocked trueanon podcast is a good antidote to that, as you will be reminded of the 2016 ratfuckery
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Serf posted:the trillbillies and chapo both seem to be getting a little too congratulatory about bernie's chances. the unlocked trueanon podcast is a good antidote to that, as you will be reminded of the 2016 ratfuckery one must be vigilant, but sanders has a genuine shot here and pretending otherwise is doing ourselves a disservice
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UP AND ADAM posted:With the Sanders presidency being all but assured at this moment, this warning away from supporting him is perfectly timed. Thank you for the valuable insight computer men. What they actually say in the video is that you should support him up until the point when he's elected, then criticize him from the left.
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Feb 7, 2020 14:08
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Grevling posted:I wish Varn would talk more about how much he hates Chapo, it's great. He's constantly dropping hints that he's got some savage criticism but never goes into it, the fucker!
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Feb 7, 2020 14:08
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V. Illych L. posted:one must be vigilant, but sanders has a genuine shot here and pretending otherwise is doing ourselves a disservice i'm thinking here of tarence's "no one else has a path to the nomination" thing, especially now that the media has firmly declared buttchug to have won iowa
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Serf posted:i'm thinking here of tarence's "no one else has a path to the nomination" thing, especially now that the media has firmly declared buttchug to have won iowa It's difficult to see how Pete overcomes his low support among people of color. Short of like, Obama himself descending from Pizzagate Island and endorsing him
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Feb 7, 2020 14:15
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he has no support among minority groups of voters still, and the democratic nomination is unachievable without that. he's done well in iowa where he focussed all of his efforts and he might make a decent second in NH, but there's no way he takes any of the southern states and sanders is going to have a decent delegate lead by super tuesday. yes, the spin is going to be that buttigieg is outperforming expectations, but spin can only achieve so much - if sanders establishes himself as a front runner by super tuesday, all the little graphics have to show him in the lead. that is enough. the only candidate who was in a real position to beat him was biden, and biden's falling apart. right now, this is sanders' race to lose even factoring in press spin and party machining
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Grevling posted:What they actually say in the video is that you should support him up until the point when he's elected, then criticize him from the left. Right, the two of them make it very clear that if you call yourself a communist or socialist and want anyone but Sanders to win the election, you are either extremely confused, or delusional.
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Gripweed posted:It's difficult to see how Pete overcomes his low support among people of color. Short of like, Obama himself descending from Pizzagate Island and endorsing him what's more, this has to happen very soon
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Gripweed posted:It's difficult to see how Pete overcomes his low support among people of color. Short of like, Obama himself descending from Pizzagate Island and endorsing him its more the celebration when the reigning media narrative will be that bernie lost iowa, and they'll do their damndest to repeat that performance in new hampshire. i don't think buttchug will be the nominee, i just think their goal is to force a contested convention where they can brutalize bernie and install some empty suit. they don't care about winning against trump, they only have to make sure their corporate paymasters are not perturbed by even the mildest of social democratic reforms ofc this is the democratic party we're talking about so it could be that every party official has some harebrained scheme for beating bernie and none of them can agree so they just trip over each others dicks until its too late. they could get us to a contested convention with pure incompetence too, i suppose regardless, i've already put in for a week of vacation to go up to the convention and i'm bringing anyone else who wants to come too because if they ratfuck bernie... what happens, happens is all i'm saying
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Maybe I'm naive but I do think the Iowa situation was largely a ratfucking of opportunity. The app failed out of standard incompetence/graft, and then they saw a chance to throw the whole thing into question and deny Bernie a clean win. So New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's just a regular primary, they should get the results that evening. But are the Democrats willing to completely destroy themselves? Are they going to sabotage or spike every single primary, completely discrediting themselves in the process, just to deny Bernie victory? Are they willing to gently caress up so many primaries that not enough delegates have been awarded for anybody to have a majority on the first ballot? I think that's the real question going forward. To what extent are the Democrats willing to overturn the table to stop Bernie from winning.
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Gripweed posted:It's difficult to see how Pete overcomes his low support among people of color. Short of like, Obama himself descending from Pizzagate Island and endorsing him Biden drops out after NV, or even New Hampshire, and Pete becomes the new "name recognition"/default guy. Everybody who thinks there's some grand conspiracy to get Bloomberg or Hillary at a contested convention is fooling themselves. They found their man, and they're going to shove him through. Getting minority support is not going to be hard once the media is unified. ChipNDip has issued a correction as of 15:13 on Feb 7, 2020 |
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ChipNDip posted:Biden drops out after NV, or even New Hampshire, and Pete becomes the new "name recognition"/default guy. If Biden drops out, Bernie becomes the name recognition default guy
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Gripweed posted:If Biden drops out, Bernie becomes the name recognition default guy literally had a coworker ask me two days ago "who is this butt guy?" e: ofc she had no idea joe biden was running and only knew bernie so she may not be representative of anything
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Gripweed posted:It's difficult to see how Pete overcomes his low support among people of color. Short of like, Obama himself descending from Pizzagate Island and endorsing him Gripweed posted:Maybe I'm naive but I do think the Iowa situation was largely a ratfucking of opportunity. The app failed out of standard incompetence/graft, and then they saw a chance to throw the whole thing into question and deny Bernie a clean win. Halloween Jack has issued a correction as of 15:40 on Feb 7, 2020 |
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incompetence and chaos provides opportunities for whoever commands the structures in play to put their thumb on the scale. this is a big part of why people are saying that incompetence/malice isn't that big a distinction - a half-assed process is much easier to rig.
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Serf posted:e: ofc she had no idea joe biden was running and only knew bernie so she may not be representative of anything computer, show me the lowest information voters you've got oh yeah, now show me low information voters that are single issue voters
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Feb 7, 2020 15:43
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Victory Position posted:computer, show me the lowest information voters you've got most people i know immediately come around on bernie when you tell them about college debt elimination and m4a. just those two policies alone are huge among normal people
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Yeah, but you aren't a TV man, so people over a certain age just tune that out.Gripweed posted:If Biden drops out, Bernie becomes the name recognition default guy LMAO if you think CNN + a few CIA visits to some prominent South Carolina pastors won't fix that real quick. The Chapo narrative about "people don't pay attention until right before an election" definitely applies here. Liberals who are 35+ years old are the only people left in the US who still trust media and traditional authorities/experts. ChipNDip has issued a correction as of 16:10 on Feb 7, 2020 |
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