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# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:01 |
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 20:13 |
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Seems more like a monopoly board then bingo. Can I put a hotel on "It has vampires"?
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:00 |
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:06 |
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Everyone stop what you're doing and read this https://mangadex.org/title/31395/i-turned-my-childhood-friend-into-a-girl It's super gay (and also trans, probably). Also hi thread, I had no idea this thread existed, I stumbled upon it by chance. Hello!
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:11 |
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*in watchmen voice* read it? i read it 35 minutes ago.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:14 |
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nice
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:14 |
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it got way quicker to this point then i thought it would when i saw it posted in the shoujo thread lol
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:18 |
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Mikl posted:Everyone stop what you're doing and read this this was incredibly cute, thank you!
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:19 |
Endorph posted:, Medusa's presented as bi in F/HA, FGO and Extella too. In Medusa's FGO Interlude (where Euryale and Stheno are trying to set Medusa up on a blind date for their amusement) and you point out you're a girl, Medusa says "Oh that's fine. Actually, I- Wait this isn't the time!" or something like that. Ibram Gaunt posted:
you beat me to it
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:33 |
oh yay it updated already! Also Hino san no Baka is really cute, though some aspects of it can be interpreted as harassment.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:34 |
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Mikl posted:Everyone stop what you're doing and read this If red-eyes is trans then it's not gay. Still good, though.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:36 |
Another FGO thing is off the top of my head can't you give/get chocolate from both genders of servants regardless of which you are? I think Nasu once said "Mash's relationship with the female MC is platonic" but uh, if you say so.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:39 |
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Arianya posted:I keep meaning to ask, and I guess this is as good a place as any, but does that character from your av/the setting have more material? I've seen the 3 music videos on YouTube but wasn't sure if that was All She Wrote™️ unfortunately no, though there's sometimes background stuff on the lead creator's blog. i like her design a lot though
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:41 |
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Wait when does FGO Nobunaga talk about her (maybe their for avenger nobu?) wives?
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:42 |
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Cuntellectual posted:Another FGO thing is off the top of my head can't you give/get chocolate from both genders of servants regardless of which you are? Fergus gives you the key to his room Emiya Alter gives you a loving gun
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:50 |
Rody One Half posted:Well it's not always chocolate Men give you 'return gifts', women give you 'chocolate'. It's also Kiritsugu that gives you a gun. Emiya Alter's is more of a downer. e: Well Kiyohime gives you herself in ribbons, but she's holding a chocolate.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:53 |
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Moriarty's is the best anyway Which is fitting because he is himself the best
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:58 |
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Mikl posted:It's super gay (and also trans, probably). That probably should be changed to a "so trans that it's painfully relatable" and also what Ziegedame said
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 21:58 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:
I will read this.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 22:38 |
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Toalpaz posted:I will read this. that was really good
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 22:51 |
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Xun posted:Wait when does FGO Nobunaga talk about her (maybe their for avenger nobu?) wives?
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:18 |
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DisDisDis posted:just say lesbian but be prepared for progressive straight guys to launch into passionate explanations of the many multi-faceted meanings of "daisuki" when you do
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:23 |
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the focus of discussion always being on positive/negative representation also gets things to a point where things just get devalue into lists of bulletin points. over time this creates a diluted narrative people think proper lgbt stories need to fit into and push back against lgbt minority creators when their stories don't fit into and accepts the most rote corporate stories as "true" hallmarks of progressivism because they check some boxes.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:31 |
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yea. it becomes less about reading poo poo by gay/transpeople or stuff that seems to take them at least kind of seriously and more about telling giant corporations what boxes to tick.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:36 |
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Snooze Cruise posted:the focus of discussion always being on positive/negative representation also gets things to a point where things just get devalue into lists of bulletin points. over time this creates a diluted narrative people think proper lgbt stories need to fit into and push back against lgbt minority creators when their stories don't fit into and accepts the most rote corporate stories as "true" hallmarks of progressivism because they check some boxes. This puts my confused attitude into better words than I probably can.
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:37 |
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Yeah. For better or worse most of the stuff brought up in this thread is the product of an author who put their own thoughts in the story rather than a corporation trying to check boxes. Like even if Fate is a huge franchise now the original game was made independently by a roleplaying DM and his artist friend who was convinced he was the best writer ever
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# ? Feb 5, 2020 23:58 |
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the important stuff with stories in regards to this stuff is ultimately giving spaces for lgbt creators to put their works out there. to be clear, imo representation is important its just the way people talk about it is wrong typically. like its not something you should judge individual stories with on a pass/fail system and its not suppose to be the focus. its something you are suppose to use to talk more about the culture as a whole. and if you don't really care about pop culture as a whole you can like safely ignore it and just seek out the stuff ya like personally. people online just kinda misapply media concepts in the wrong context and is misguided because like, often times these concepts are still created by a predominately non lgbt perspective. so yeah, space is what is of the most importance
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:00 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Yeah. For better or worse most of the stuff brought up in this thread is the product of an author who put their own thoughts in the story rather than a corporation trying to check boxes. Like even if Fate is a huge franchise now the original game was made independently by a roleplaying DM and his artist friend who was convinced he was the best writer ever yeah. and even if fgo is huge now its clear the writers get to do whatever they want, since fate is still an ip thats owned by type moon, which is still a small company founded by a writer and an artist. furthermore its not like they really put any effort into like, promoting this stuff as woke representation the way Marvel teases that maybe the next thor movie will finally have a gay dude in it. It's just in the game. and its clear its something nasu is just legitimately interested in since Kara no Kyoukai, as mentioned, deals with this stuff (even if in a stumbling, kind of odd way) and he wrote that in literal high school. And for all of KnK's faults I know at least three people who realized they were nonbinary because of it, so. Yet another example of 'its more about an earnest attempt to engage than checking off boxes' because Kara no Kyoukai literally has a random guy go insane and dress up as Ryougi and go on a murder spree, it seems to literally think of Ryougi's male and female halves as two separate identities, and it's REALLY hung up on the idea that wearing a coat is the most hosed up thing someone assigned female at birth could possibly do and must mean Ryougi is impossible to understand. And people still get a lot out of it.
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:32 |
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it's not really related but I love the scene where Kokutou goes on a five minute rant about drugs that is just, completely wrong on every level, and when asked about this Nasu just went 'As a college student, I assumed that Kokutou would know a lot about drugs that are used in the nightclub scene. I, the author, did not know a lot about the nightclub scene."
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:33 |
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not manga but this covers a couple of things requested -- I've been reading this novel series: https://www.goodreads.com/series/230782-criminal-intentions-season-one It's more or less Criminal Minds fanfiction with the label rubbed off but has been a fun series that moves quickly and has plenty of action (re: the action request earlier). One of the MCs is bi, the other is demi/gray-ace and it explores that in how their relationship builds. There is also a supporting character who is nonbinary and another who is aromantic as well and each of them get some focus and development over the series so they aren't just brief background appearances. Everything Burrito fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 29, 2020 |
# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:36 |
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Endorph posted:it's not really related but I love the scene where Kokutou goes on a five minute rant about drugs that is just, completely wrong on every level, and when asked about this Nasu just went 'As a college student, I assumed that Kokutou would know a lot about drugs that are used in the nightclub scene. I, the author, did not know a lot about the nightclub scene."
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:37 |
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nasu spent all day watching utena and playing dungeons and dragons, you cant expect him to have been to hip 90s japanese parties.
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:39 |
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"he is spreading a street drug that is 20x more powerful than weed" is still my favorite Nasu act of villainy
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 00:56 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Yeah. For better or worse most of the stuff brought up in this thread is the product of an author who put their own thoughts in the story rather than a corporation trying to check boxes. Like even if Fate is a huge franchise now the original game was made independently by a roleplaying DM and his artist friend who was convinced he was the best writer ever That last part is framed in a way it implies that he is not in fact the best writer ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MmYx1ayYTM I rest my case Baka-nin fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 6, 2020 |
# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:01 |
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DisDisDis posted:just say lesbian but be prepared for progressive straight guys to launch into passionate explanations of the many multi-faceted meanings of "daisuki" when you do you're right, regardless of what the author intended Lin is cool and good
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:16 |
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Every once in a while I rediscover Tamen de Gushi and binge read it, and it is gay and cute every single time.
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:22 |
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And then it abruptly stops having a plot because it's too gay for the party
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:25 |
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Syenite posted:Every once in a while I rediscover Tamen de Gushi and binge read it, and it is gay and cute every single time. same but murcielago
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:34 |
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same but only sense online
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 01:35 |