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ma i married a tuna
Apr 24, 2005

Numbers add up to nothing
Pillbug

Charlz Guybon posted:

Which video was this!? :catstare:

The Chinese government only reported 3,100ish cases today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQTdCYGISw

About as educated a guess as you can get at this time. 50K infections a day, doubling every five days, a month till peak in Wuhan and two months until China peak.

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Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
People - epidemiologists who are at the top of their fields - are quietly very, very worried about this.
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Link? Or do you just know them personally?

Nucken Futz
Oct 30, 2010

by Reene
Soooooo, Dr. Li Wenliang pegs out, and the Chinar social media goes haywire, until the censors started wiping things clean.
All those posts gone.
What are the odds that the posters themselves get disappeared?

This virus looks like a real good honeypot for the PRC security thugs.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Charlz Guybon posted:

Which video was this!? :catstare:

The Chinese government only reported 3,100ish cases today.

3000 new cases a day strikes me as a "3.6 roentgen not bad not great." type of statistic.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


hallelujah posted:

question. when this hits america, will there be any sort of concession made for the hundreds of people who need icu care and can't afford it? or will we see poor patients turned away from hospitals to die, with anybody who manages to get onto a ventilator surviving to be bankrupted and in debt for several generations?

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

ma i married a tuna posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQTdCYGISw

About as educated a guess as you can get at this time. 50K infections a day, doubling every five days, a month till peak in Wuhan and two months until China peak.

Thanx wypipo

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Illuminti posted:

Link? Or do you just know them personally?

lmao what do you think? Goons with degrees in Pokemon training and Anime torrenting have been offering their expert insider info since the very beginning of this thread.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
The Hot Zone as well as Demon in the Freezer are fantastic books if you find this whole Wuhan thing compelling

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
Isn’t eat faster an actual doctor

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

Global recession here we come?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-06/chinese-gas-buyer-cnooc-declares-force-majeure-on-lng-contracts

Dog Toothbrush
Oct 21, 2019

by Reene
Should I buy cartridges for my respirator just in case? All the masks are sold out and they get hot and sticky anyways.

salt shakeup
Jun 27, 2004

'orrible fucking nights
You should dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Not unless you're old or immunocompromised in some way.

You should wash your hands and stop touching your face.

Like, for the rest of your life not just now. You will get sick way less.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
That's how you end up with a weak immune system :colbert:

If you eat rear end for breakfast and don't wash your hands, it's like a workout for your whole body.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
loving lol if you don't wash your hands

like just loving lmao you dumb idiot

Dog Toothbrush
Oct 21, 2019

by Reene

13Pandora13 posted:

Not unless you're old or immunocompromised in some way.

You should wash your hands and stop touching your face.

Like, for the rest of your life not just now. You will get sick way less.

Was the doc that whistle blew about this issue immunocompromised? Because he wasn’t old

I’m not talking about encasing myself in lucite with an n95 rated snorkel. I’m just gonna get some cartridges just in case, otherwise I’ll use them for sanding some time.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Dog Toothbrush posted:

Was the doc that whistle blew about this issue immunocompromised? Because he wasn’t old

I’m not talking about encasing myself in lucite with an n95 rated snorkel. I’m just gonna get some cartridges just in case, otherwise I’ll use them for sanding some time.

His immune system was probably compromised by that whistle.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Dog Toothbrush posted:

Was the doc that whistle blew about this issue immunocompromised? Because he wasn’t old

I’m not talking about encasing myself in lucite with an n95 rated snorkel. I’m just gonna get some cartridges just in case, otherwise I’ll use them for sanding some time.

If he lived in a Chinese major city his lungs were probably destroyed from the smog.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread
Man I'm dead because I really like keeping my lipstick nice
:(
All of us women, dang
Makeup is nothing BUT touching your face

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



RIP Spinz I'll miss u

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

MarcusSA posted:

If he lived in a Chinese major city his lungs were probably destroyed from the smog.

This is a joke but it's actually probably not far from the truth. Public health in China is atrocious both due to lovely/nonexistent policy, lovely/nonexistent sanitation, and lovely/nonexistent environmental regulations

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

RIP Spinz I'll miss u

You too forum friend!!!

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

MarcusSA posted:

If he lived in a Chinese major city his lungs were probably destroyed from the smog.

Like 75 percent of Chinese guys smoke cigs i think
:(

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



I'll be right behind you cuz I'm rocking two autoimmune diseases already.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

This is a joke but it's actually probably not far from the truth. Public health in China is atrocious both due to lovely/nonexistent policy, lovely/nonexistent sanitation, and lovely/nonexistent environmental regulations

Actually wasn’t really joking.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Spinz posted:

Man I'm dead because I really like keeping my lipstick nice
:(
All of us women, dang
Makeup is nothing BUT touching your face

Pls don't die trying to keep your makeup nice there's no such thing as leaving a pretty corpse.

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially
Taco Defender
Healthy makeup tip: replace your foundation with alcohol and bleach! No viruses here!

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Draw lips on your dust mask.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Imagine the Great Smog of London from the 1950's but it's every day, and also everyone smokes and commonly eats bushmeat/literal poo poo oil from the street, and most people's doctors prescribe the Chinese equivalent of bloodletting for everything

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Mar 23, 2021

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Spinz posted:

Like 75 percent of Chinese guys smoke cigs i think
:(
as long as fan siu-wong is ok through all this and hopefully doesnt smoke

https://i.imgur.com/sA17wRd.mp4

:swoon: so handsome

https://i.imgur.com/asPmJSH.mp4

nooooooooooooooooooo!

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Fojar38 posted:

Imagine the Great Smog of London from the 1950's but it's every day, and also everyone smokes and commonly eats bushmeat/literal poo poo oil from the street, and most people's doctors prescribe the Chinese equivalent of bloodletting for everything

This disease has been wonderful for the “repeat every stupid thing you have ever heard about foreigners” industry. I hear they get sick because they put pee pee in their coke

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

This disease has been wonderful for the “repeat every stupid thing you have ever heard about foreigners” industry. I hear they get sick because they put pee pee in their coke

Gutter oil is in fact a thing in China hth

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Sorry for slandering the public health standards of the country currently locked down by an out of control plague derived from bushmeat

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

This disease has been wonderful for the “repeat every stupid thing you have ever heard about foreigners” industry. I hear they get sick because they put pee pee in their coke

That's actually a normal ingredient in coke

Also poor air-quality in China is a well-documented problem

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

People - epidemiologists who are at the top of their fields - are quietly very, very worried about this.

lol. loving name a reputable infectious disease surveillance epidemiologist who is saying this. There's concern and good public health practice is to prepare for the worst in situations like this, but I'm skeptical that anyone epidemiologist working in a context outside of mainland China is "very, very worried."

I'm an epidemiologist focusing on HIV and microbiome so I can't claim that I have first hand expertise in the field but I know plenty of people who do including one of my best friends who is heads up the communicable diseases unit at a major local US public health department and they're much more concerned about the flu right now than 2019-nCoV. He and I spoke yesterday and he said he was much more worried about Zika and ebola, but they are preparing resources just in case.

It's beyond reckless for a physician to be saying such things when you have little to no training in population health or disease surveillance (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes there is a severe epidemic in mainland China and yes the Chinese government is not super trustworthy when it comes to reporting, but there's no significant cause for concern outside of China yet. You're right that China has taken some dramatic actions. However, China is also a country that tends to take severe and outsized action beyond what the problem dictates even when that action is a significant violation of their citizens' human rights. So taking their actions as evidence that something bigger is going on is a bit of a reach, I'd argue.

Your fear mongering is not helpful and is in fact arguably unethical.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Rosalind posted:

Your fear mongering is not helpful and is in fact arguably unethical.

This should be the thread title.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Rosalind posted:

lol. loving name a reputable infectious disease surveillance epidemiologist who is saying this. There's concern and good public health practice is to prepare for the worst in situations like this, but I'm skeptical that anyone epidemiologist working in a context outside of mainland China is "very, very worried."

I'm an epidemiologist focusing on HIV and microbiome so I can't claim that I have first hand expertise in the field but I know plenty of people who do including one of my best friends who is heads up the communicable diseases unit at a major local US public health department and they're much more concerned about the flu right now than 2019-nCoV. He and I spoke yesterday and he said he was much more worried about Zika and ebola, but they are preparing resources just in case.

It's beyond reckless for a physician to be saying such things when you have little to no training in population health or disease surveillance (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes there is a severe epidemic in mainland China and yes the Chinese government is not super trustworthy when it comes to reporting, but there's no significant cause for concern outside of China yet. You're right that China has taken some dramatic actions. However, China is also a country that tends to take severe and outsized action beyond what the problem dictates even when that action is a significant violation of their citizens' human rights. So taking their actions as evidence that something bigger is going on is a bit of a reach, I'd argue.

Your fear mongering is not helpful and is in fact arguably unethical.

Toxx for less than 100 dead in the US?

Dog Toothbrush
Oct 21, 2019

by Reene
Serious question, how could this not be a thing in the US? I’m not saying it will be Ebola Boogaloo 2, but how can a new bad flu not end up here eventually?

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There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Rosalind posted:

lol. loving name a reputable infectious disease surveillance epidemiologist who is saying this. There's concern and good public health practice is to prepare for the worst in situations like this, but I'm skeptical that anyone epidemiologist working in a context outside of mainland China is "very, very worried."

I'm an epidemiologist focusing on HIV and microbiome so I can't claim that I have first hand expertise in the field but I know plenty of people who do including one of my best friends who is heads up the communicable diseases unit at a major local US public health department and they're much more concerned about the flu right now than 2019-nCoV. He and I spoke yesterday and he said he was much more worried about Zika and ebola, but they are preparing resources just in case.

It's beyond reckless for a physician to be saying such things when you have little to no training in population health or disease surveillance (correct me if I'm wrong). Yes there is a severe epidemic in mainland China and yes the Chinese government is not super trustworthy when it comes to reporting, but there's no significant cause for concern outside of China yet. You're right that China has taken some dramatic actions. However, China is also a country that tends to take severe and outsized action beyond what the problem dictates even when that action is a significant violation of their citizens' human rights. So taking their actions as evidence that something bigger is going on is a bit of a reach, I'd argue.

Your fear mongering is not helpful and is in fact arguably unethical.

A doctor should never, ever use their credentials to weigh in on topics outside of their specific area of medical expertise. I don't know anything about the guy above, but that's how you end up with hacks like 'Dr.' Oz.

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