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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Memento posted:

These Vulcan wall gas heaters are everywhere in Victoria and Tasmania.



Also, if your house has one, it probably has asbestos behind it. We looked into getting rid of ours and a plumber friend told us not to bother, just get the gas line taken out and leave it there barring a full remodel.

And if you were in a slightly older house you'd have one of these:

Well that's if it hasn't killed you with carbon monoxide poisoning, that is.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

And if you were in a slightly older house you'd have one of these:

Well that's if it hasn't killed you with carbon monoxide poisoning, that is.

My wife's grandfather's house (1948) had what is actually the previous model of those. Up until he went into a home in 2008, he was still getting regular deliveries of diesel to the tank down the side of the house to run it. We stayed there a few times in winter and due to the lack of insulation and 70-year-old-house drafts, my wife basically rugged herself up in a blanket and made a nest in front of it in order to stay warm.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

And if you were in a slightly older house you'd have one of these:

Well that's if it hasn't killed you with carbon monoxide poisoning, that is.

Oh hey, I had one those in my house as a kid t- :stare:.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

it depends where you are, but a lot of suburban houses in sydney have pools.

What I find most hosed is that not only is it hot as hell some days in sydney, some people actually loving enjoy it.

anything over 27C and Im grouchy and uncomfortable and if Im in the direct sun its like a reverse-solar panel on my head and my brain just shuts down.

the sun is insanely powerful here and it fuckin sucks.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

I had one until the Housing Dept went on a spree of replacement last year and now I have a great tall one that's super efficient and inexpensive.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Oh hey, I had one those in my house as a kid t- :stare:.

They've killed several people recently, usually in situations where the unit was old and hadn't been serviced in years so it was faulty and leaking and they'd left it on all night and they also had a ceiling extraction fan running all night in some other part of the house which sucked out all the oxygen and let the CO fill up the rooms
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gas-heating-health-and-safety-issues

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Laserface posted:

it depends where you are, but a lot of suburban houses in sydney have pools.

What I find most hosed is that not only is it hot as hell some days in sydney, some people actually loving enjoy it.

anything over 27C and Im grouchy and uncomfortable and if Im in the direct sun its like a reverse-solar panel on my head and my brain just shuts down.

the sun is insanely powerful here and it fuckin sucks.

It fucks people that visit here as well. Mediterranean climate people especially. I worked with a driller this week who's Greek, and he said to me "you know I never once wore sunscreen before I came out here. Then the first week I was here, I got sunburned so badly I couldn't walk. Now I wear sunscreen"

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



JacquelineDempsey posted:

Sorry for going back to AC chat, but this is really baffling to my dumbass USA self.

Do y'all not have heat, or need it? I live in mid-southern US, where it gets 90+ F in the summer, but also snows in the winter. We have one source of climate control in the house (called central air), it can make heat in the winter and AC in the summer. I've lived in places ranging from a 1920's historic landmark building (so they were limited in the renovations they could do to the structure) to a 1970's ranch house, and they've always had central air.

Does central air just not exist down there? I apologize if this is an ignorant question, but I just can't fathom living in a place with 100F temps and no AC.

It's also mind-boggling because my electricity bills are WAY higher to heat the house during winter than keeping it cool during the summer. Like, $300 vs $120, to give an average.

I live in a house from the 60's which has had some extensions. Previous owners installed central air in the 90's or early 2000's, but for cooling purposes it just doesn't really do anything when the temp is 38C/100F or more - it just blows around hot air, and like people have mentioned it's about as good as turning on a few fans then opening doors and windows. The split system air con on one side of the house can bring the temp down in that room by 15 degrees C in about an hour but the layout means it doesn't reach the rest of the house.

TheMostFrench fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Feb 7, 2020

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Memento posted:

It fucks people that visit here as well. Mediterranean climate people especially. I worked with a driller this week who's Greek, and he said to me "you know I never once wore sunscreen before I came out here. Then the first week I was here, I got sunburned so badly I couldn't walk. Now I wear sunscreen"

Was he watering his driveway?

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Memento posted:

It fucks people that visit here as well. Mediterranean climate people especially. I worked with a driller this week who's Greek, and he said to me "you know I never once wore sunscreen before I came out here. Then the first week I was here, I got sunburned so badly I couldn't walk. Now I wear sunscreen"

I lived on a flower nursery with some backpackers form the Nederlands and they had to leave the country to reapply for their visa or something.

Anyway, they spent 2 weeks over christmas in thailand and came back from their holiday less tanned than when they left australia.


Im white as white can be (not ginger thankfully) and I will burn in aussie sun in like 5 minutes of exposure. I was in Berlin during their summer, was outside all day with no sunscreen on during a sunny day and didnt burn at all. Hawaii was similar, but I did need sunscreen there.

unrelated to bushfires but there was also a french couple who lived/worked there too. They were permaculture hippies. They didnt wear sunglasses because according to them it stops your body producing melanin (because your brain cant see how bright the sun is) and thus does not protect you against skin cancer.

they also peeled all their fruit and vegetables because they believed the pesticides used would give them cancer.

they also smoked a pack of cigarettes a day between them.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
Where I live theres few houses that don't have some kind of heating either central heating or wood or whatever. No-one though has aircon because it isn't normally required.

Metaline
Aug 20, 2003



Helith posted:

We have a reverse cycle aircon in the lounge area of our 2 bed unit, so we can cool and heat that area. For the bedrooms we use plug in fans and heaters.
Sydney is sub tropical so we never get snow and winter temps would be about 10-15c and drop a bit overnight. Houses have crap insulation though, so it gets really cold inside as any heat just escapes out.
In summer it's the humidity that really makes it uncomfortable and yes there are plenty of older houses that have no aircon at all and yes our prices are way higher than those in the US. I would never run the aircon 24/7 in summer, even on the hottest most humid days, it gets run for a few hours at a time a couple of times during the day and a lot of days we don't use it all.

I’ve seen a few people mention shoddy insulation. What’s the reason for bad/non-existent insulation in houses there?

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

I'm not sure Sydney needs 500mm of rain.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Metaline posted:

I’ve seen a few people mention shoddy insulation. What’s the reason for bad/non-existent insulation in houses there?

she’ll be right mate

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
Im in an old melbourne apartment. Has no AC or central heating, although it does have a fireplace we cant use.

The house is amazingly insulated, during a heat wave you cant even tell how hot it is outside and you can feel the cool breeze upon entering on a hot day.

Of course the lack of proper heating means the house gets chillier than outside as winter progresses and i kept thinking how much colder it would be outdoors of a day and finding it was slighter warmer out.

I could probably fix this with a decent heater though.

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

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Metaline posted:

I’ve seen a few people mention shoddy insulation. What’s the reason for bad/non-existent insulation in houses there?

Brain worms. The most common reason I've seen for why people don't insulate their houses is they think it makes a house 'too hot in summer'.

Also on aircon chat, here in Canberra ducted evaporated cooling is super common. Which means you can't use it when it's smokey because it needs a draught through the house. And naturally fires happen at the coldest part of the year...

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

spaceblancmange posted:

I'm not sure Sydney needs 500mm of rain.

The Blue Mountains does though as it'll help fill Warragamba back up. Visibility was interesting on the way too and from work today. Below 90Km/h you could kinda see but I pushed it up to 100 at some point and couldn't see a loving thing. I also nearly aquaplaned off the road while at 70 on the way home which was interesting.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

I hope enough of it makes its way to where its needed rather than just flood the city and coastal areas. One disaster to the next potentially :australia:

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
I used to use a small heater in winter, but it made my electricity bills far too high. I replaced that with just wearing multiple pairs of socks and my shoes at home in winter, and buying another two blankets. Occasionally I'll drape a towel across my lap if the cold is making my knees freeze.

Summer I use two desk fans (One computer table, one at bed) and the occasional cold shower, and just alternate refilled water bottles otherwise (One in the fridge, one being drunk). Air conditioning would be great, but I like having enough money to eat more than I like being cool in summer. gently caress Australian energy prices. Seriously.


Last night I went out and stood in the rain for about ten minutes. Was absolutely worth it. I have missed the sound and smell of rain so much.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
In Adelaide I haven't used or owned a heater since I was a child.

If it doesn't snow you don't need a heater, just wear more clothes.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Metaline posted:

I’ve seen a few people mention shoddy insulation. What’s the reason for bad/non-existent insulation in houses there?

Relaxation of building codes mostly. Lots of shoddily built houses here.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

GotLag posted:

In Adelaide I haven't used or owned a heater since I was a child.

If it doesn't snow you don't need a heater, just wear more clothes.

okay dad

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Laserface posted:

unrelated to bushfires but there was also a french couple who lived/worked there too. They were permaculture hippies. They didnt wear sunglasses because according to them it stops your body producing melanin (because your brain cant see how bright the sun is) and thus does not protect you against skin cancer.

they also peeled all their fruit and vegetables because they believed the pesticides used would give them cancer.

they also smoked a pack of cigarettes a day between them.

lol

hey australia how you guys doin?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Still stuff on fire.

Also everyone's now all racist again.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


aw heck :(

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Synthbuttrange posted:

Still stuff on fire.

Also everyone's now all racist again.

East coast flooding, west coast awaiting a Cat 4 cyclone, I'm sure there's still fires somewhere. I think QLD has a cyclone brewing too.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Humphreys posted:

I'm sure there's still fires somewhere.

Yeah the fires down in East Gippsland and the fires south of Canberra aren't under control yet. A lot of the other fires are still going too, although they've been contained.
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me


Edit: found this photo on Imgur, apparently a fire fighting plane somewhere in Oz had to drop its load to to turbulence and some guy sitting on the stairs tying his shoes copped it

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Feb 7, 2020

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah the fires down in East Gippsland and the fires south of Canberra aren't under control yet. A lot of the other fires are still going too, although they've been contained.
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me


Edit: found this photo on Imgur, apparently a fire fighting plane somewhere in Oz had to drop its load to to turbulence and some guy sitting on the stairs tying his shoes copped it



That poo poo is NOT nice to get on you. There is a reason all the guy on the front line duck for cover when the planes come over.

I got told a story by a RFS lady about one new bloke on his first big job standing there arms stretched out trying to be Mr Cool when the bomber came over, while all the more experienced members jumped into the truck.

Dude got a face full of heavy as gently caress water/suppressant foam mix to the face and nearly chocked himself unconscious on it.


Also Hi thread I am still alive. I am glad you are too.

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Feb 7, 2020

pnutz
Jan 5, 2015

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah the fires down in East Gippsland and the fires south of Canberra aren't under control yet. A lot of the other fires are still going too, although they've been contained.
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me


Edit: found this photo on Imgur, apparently a fire fighting plane somewhere in Oz had to drop its load to to turbulence and some guy sitting on the stairs tying his shoes copped it



it was near the war memorial in the middle of canbra, not too far from the airport

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They've killed several people recently, usually in situations where the unit was old and hadn't been serviced in years so it was faulty and leaking and they'd left it on all night and they also had a ceiling extraction fan running all night in some other part of the house which sucked out all the oxygen and let the CO fill up the rooms
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gas-heating-health-and-safety-issues
lol, fan death is actually a thing?

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

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Laserface posted:

anything over 27C

that's 2/3rds of the year in central australia.

the minimum temp over the next week is expected to be 23C
surprisingly only 3 days are going over 40

Zetsubou-san fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Feb 8, 2020

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Zetsubou-san posted:

that's 2/3rds of the year in central australia.

the minimum temp over the next week is expected to be 23C
surprisingly only 3 days are going over 40

Yes, I know, please don't remind me

Blow
Feb 10, 2004

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

And if you were in a slightly older house you'd have one of these:

Well that's if it hasn't killed you with carbon monoxide poisoning, that is.

:lol: still have 2 of those fuckers for winter.

Anyways.

We had some rain.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
The rain totals between this rain event and the 100mm from last month have broken the total rain that we managed to achieve last year. If it keeps up all of the fires around the mountains will finally be out which’d be nice.

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100mm in Rocky but I'm in Bundaberg seeing my dad. Still massive lights show on the river here. Sounds like the sky is falling.

Maximum Sexy Pigeon
Jun 5, 2008

We must never speak of this!
This happened an hour after leaving a job at Rosehill Racecourse today.

Heading back tonight, might go back way.
https://www.facebook.com/dailytelegraph/videos/1945028005606288/

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Well, at least the rain's putting the fires out eh

https://twitter.com/NSWRFS/status/1226075995121147905

Fires and floods.
WA being hit by cyclone Damien right now.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Rather weirdly, we're smashing local records for rain the last couple of months: 50mm Jan 2020 to 8mm January 2019 and we're just over the February 2019 total already. My backyard has flooded 3 times to just the once compared to last year.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


If you look at the RFS fire map today you'll see a load of new incidents that have popped up. They're not fires though, they're Flood/Storm/Tree Down incidents that the SES are dealing with. poo poo's wild in Sydney and coastal NSW today with the east coast low battering us hard.

https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Australian Bushfire Crisis is over: Australian Flood Crisis thread.

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