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Labour can have a credibly independent ScotLab if it doesn't transparently machine to select leadership loyal to the LOTO incumbent by pitching it as a vote of confidence (cough), and then set out to undermine and humiliate anyone whose loyalty seems to waver (cough) It's not going to do this, at least not for a long time, due to an institutional history of Scotland being a place for the ambitious to cultivate relationships, isolated from machinations in England, that can then be channelled into a career at Westminster. It is the upward mobility that makes it an everpresent danger to the faction in power, so in practical terms it's not going to be let alone, especially if its leaders start making a show about how independent they are. The 'branch office' charge works because it's believable, and it's believable because it's historically true If ScotLab isn't credibly independent, then at least policy handed down from on high should not be toxic in Scotland if the party wants to prioritize Scotland. It's true that this would complicate issues south of the border, and it's hard to make the math work out, so the party might choose not to do so.... and indeed it probably won't.
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Here's an article from the New Statesman asserting that Jeremy Corbyn is a racist and anti-semite because the author states that they are: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/02/labour-faces-painful-reckoning-those-who-enabled-corbynism-can-t-be-trusted-its I read this garbage, so it's only fair that I inflict it on you guys too.
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Live in the Midlands and not looking forward to tomorrow. Have mercy Ciara
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Pistol_Pete posted:Here's an article from the New Statesman asserting that Jeremy Corbyn is a racist and anti-semite because the author states that they are: quote:Corbynite socialism appealed more to graduates than the working class. Sloth Life posted:Live in the Midlands and not looking forward to tomorrow.
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I'm in an attic room, I may have to dig out the ear plugs for this one.
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Guavanaut posted:Sums up my life in general. Enormous same. Very sad :hifive: Midlands buds. e; Actually poo poo it's later than I thought, I better get my arse in gear and go to the corner shop to lay in some supplies for tomorrow because there's not much to eat.
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Jedit posted:I have with my own two eyes seen someone say that they voted to leave the EU because it maximised the chance of Scottish independence. Those fuckers are so dense they have an event horizon. I know one of those. I got a bit mad at him.
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Starmer definite 4th for me now. Maybe 5th if they'll let me write in Jess Phillips.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Here's an article from the New Statesman asserting that Jeremy Corbyn is a racist and anti-semite because the author states that they are: I'm scorched by the heat of the take which claims that because middle class kids go to uni a lot, they'd be the main beneficiaries of cutting/abolishing tuition fees. I wonder if perhaps Vernon here has overlooked that there might be a reason middle class kids go to uni more easily than working class ones, a reason which would be greatly mitigated by cutting/abolishing tuition fees. 
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Guavanaut posted:Starmer definite 4th for me now. Maybe 5th if they'll let me write in Jess Phillips. Can't you just not write him in? I mean tbh it's either gonna be Starmer or RLB. Just write RLB first pref and leave the rest blank.
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Guavanaut posted:Starmer definite 4th for me now. Maybe 5th if they'll let me write in Jess Phillips. You don't have to put a number next to him - Back when Ed Milliband was elected, I got a vote through my union and scored everyone Except David. Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Your phone's very probably got a better antenna than a usb 3g router--also, it could support phone traffic frequency bands which your router can't. This is a bigger issue with LTE, but there are lots of 3g variants as well. Don't know about the rest of the technical stuff, but the kit we're talking about are both stand-alone routers - the MiFi is the poo poo one, the Huawei one the Ok one - they sit in place of the normal ASDL/Cable router, just using a 4/5G signal instead. They should get the same speed as the phone. Renfield fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Feb 8, 2020 |
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I don't think they'll let me write Jess in either.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:The 20MHz bandwidth is a compatibility setting for old stuff that don't understand new(ish) protocol stuff. Thanks for the tech info. The long and short of it is don't let Three sell you a mifi for their home internet because it's not equipped to act as a proper router for it without it slashing your available speeds. It's also funny that i got through to someone in a couple of minutes when looking to buy something, but sat on hold "in a queue" for over 20 minutes before giving up when trying to cancel. Icing on the cake for everything with them today.
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If you don't put later preferences it shrinks the overall number of votes, so I would suggest if you really don't want starmer to win it's better to pick everyone except him so if he hits the last round he doesn't gain your preference.
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I don’t get what they’re saying about picking the #1 carefully is there a scenario I’m missing where if any of the voters who least preferred Starmer had put their 1st prefs differently that he wouldn’t have still won out in the final round?
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Pistol_Pete posted:Here's an article from the New Statesman asserting that Jeremy Corbyn is a racist and anti-semite because the author states that they are: Do you think the media are currently offering a premium rate for articles about how the problem with Labour is basically that they aren't tories? There must've been hundreds since the election. I always appreciate how when talking about antisemitism they mention Islamophobia but only as an aside of how it's not worth talking about; I'd like just once for one of them to state if they think there's no prejudice against Muslims, or whether it's just fine. But no, it's always the weasel words way.
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OwlFancier posted:If you don't put later preferences it shrinks the overall number of votes, so I would suggest if you really don't want starmer to win it's better to pick everyone except him so if he hits the last round he doesn't gain your preference. 7 voters disappear between round 1 and 3 which would’ve been enough to swing it lol but those are people who’ve specifically filled out the form to say they don’t care between Starmer and Long-Bailey.
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Starting to wonder if maybe FPTP isn't the best system after all, lasses
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Sloth Life posted:Live in the Midlands and not looking forward to tomorrow. Have mercy Ciara God willing, the wind will scour it down to the bedrock.
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OwlFancier posted:If you don't put later preferences it shrinks the overall number of votes, so I would suggest if you really don't want starmer to win it's better to pick everyone except him so if he hits the last round he doesn't gain your preference. RLB > Thornberry > Nandy > Shrieking Hell Void > Jess Phillips > [this space blank] Ms Adequate posted:Starting to wonder if maybe FPTP isn't the best system after all, lasses
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For clarity there are 279 votes in round 1, making victory threshold 139.5, making RLB 15 off a win, starmer 60. Second round is 280 votes(???, did someone not put a first preference) threshold 140, RLB 5 from winning, starmer 46. Third round is 273, threshold 136.5, therefore starmer wins, presumably pleasing very few. Perhaps we should have a vote where first preferences count for 1.5 or something. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 8, 2020 |
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is Joel Golby a goon? https://twitter.com/joelgolby/status/1226239214276300800
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sinky posted:God willing, the wind will scour it down to the bedrock. I die so that the world may live, in greater peace and purity than before. 
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Guavanaut posted:I think this is what I'm going to do. Got a Lion bar and an absolute unit of a bag of BBQ Hula Hoops!
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I want to meet the people who vote thornberry/nandy and don't have an opinion between RLB/starmer.
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Maybe they think we need a woman from the center.
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I am enjoying the notion of keir starmer: living participation trophy.
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Looks like a 3-way tie in the Irish exit polls
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Ms Adequate posted:Got a Lion bar and an absolute unit of a bag of BBQ Hula Hoops! OwlFancier posted:Perhaps we should have a vote where first preferences count for 1.5 or something.
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OwlFancier posted:I want to meet the people who vote thornberry/nandy and don't have an opinion between RLB/starmer. just had a thought. maybe they’re so used to the London Mayor elections they assumed they were limited to 1st & 2nd preference only
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We did have a few people in our clp who didn't understand how preferential voting worked at all, and I admit I don't feel confident in it though I think I do technically understand it. That anti-british big country strategy doing very well for sinn fein then 
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Ms Adequate posted:I die so that the world may live, in greater peace and purity than before.  It's all Tories round here, I will take them to hell* with me. *the one worse than the midlands
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e; ^^ Sorry to hear that, at least here in Leicester we've consistently told the Tories to gently caress away off for awhile now. Leicester proper I mean, not weirdo outlying places.Evrim posted:Looks like a 3-way tie in the Irish exit polls 
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*in very Boris voice* I'm looking forward to the anti-British towie seech being kicked out and Brexit negotiations beginning afresh with *checks notes* Shin Fain.Ms Adequate posted:e; ^^ Sorry to hear that, at least here in Leicester we've consistently told the Tories to gently caress away off for awhile now. Leicester proper I mean, not weirdo outlying places.
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Oh god pleeease get a SF government, and make gerry adams in charge of brexit negotiations.
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Do you think us being reduced from world power to second rung state might finally make poeple sit up and stop being arseholes?
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Josef bugman posted:Do you think us being reduced from world power to second rung state might finally make poeple sit up and stop being arseholes? I don't think the existing ones will do that, they're already delusional. But some of them might get spiteful against the tories if we can point them that way, and I think it'll entrench those already sympathetic. Provided, of course, labour doesn't go loving neolib again.
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