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C-Euro posted:ngl I'm like a little less excited to play it now that it's popular but the deck still kicks rear end, and I'm glad that it's getting away from running 3+ Brazen Borrower! I’m running two brazen, two teferi in the main (two obstructionist in the side) And the deck definitely jams
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murderous rider + traverse the ulvenwald is a golgari chef's kiss
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Feb 9, 2020 13:41
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im 2-0 in matches against dream trawler, the secret is to draft the literal only two cards in the set that can deal with it (lyre and thassa), and also draw them every game
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Feb 9, 2020 14:45
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I’ve beaten dream trawler twice by targeting it with a removal spell, allowing my opponent to discard a card and tap it, then alphastriking. Kiora Bests the Sea God is much harder
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Feb 9, 2020 15:09
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The only way you beat Kiora in draft is if you were already going to be winning with a big enough alpha strike that an extra 8/8 on their side doesn't help them.
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I made top 8 of my 1k Pioneer with Sultai D. We split the pot, and that deck is gas. Turns out you don't need to sideboard for Burn due to Uro.
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Won a 49 minute game one today and went to turns in the second. The judge came by to ask for our score and my opponent was adamant it was game 3 and we were 1-1, fully arguing it. I don't think I've ever gotten so heated when playing. edit: he was on mono blue and taking his time the whole g1 ilmucche fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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holy poo poo people do that for real? did you ask him to describe game 2, or show the judge how he sideboarded?
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Feb 9, 2020 18:19
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This is another reason pen & paper is great for life totals. "oh really, we're on game three? then why do I only have life totals for a game 1 and this current game? curious, that!"
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Bonus posted:holy poo poo people do that for real? did you ask him to describe game 2, or show the judge how he sideboarded? I asked him how he killed me game 1, what he'd sideboarded, why was I just pulling out sideboard for "game 3" etc. He went with killing me with an elephant token, which had been on the table for most of the only game we played and got me down to 2 before I gained life out of the problem. Yawgmoth posted:This is another reason pen & paper is great for life totals. "oh really, we're on game three? then why do I only have life totals for a game 1 and this current game? curious, that!" I had pen and paper, but don't normally track which game it is because most people aren't idiots about it. The dude wasn't tracking life at all. Eventually I had a look and thought about the last game from my previous match where I got killed by a colonnade, pointing out the 12-8-4 of my life total. "Yeah see, I killed you with colonnade" "You're on mono blue" He eventually just said I could have it like I was lying. Rattled me up, but the guys I played after are pretty sound so it got my spirits up and I still had a good day. This was at the club in the next town over so I didn't know this guy. Apparently he had 2 counterspell (yeah, the UU one) in his main at the start of the day, and according to one of the organisers he'd been banned a few years ago from a store in their city for general behaviour and cheating but they didn't know he was coming today. Good weekend for tokens in general, went 4-0 at fnm, and 3-1 then lost in top 4 today.
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Feb 9, 2020 18:39
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ilmucche posted:Won a 49 minute game one today and went to turns in the second. The judge came by to ask for our score and my opponent was adamant it was game 3 and we were 1-1, fully arguing it. I don't think I've ever gotten so heated when playing. How did they resolve this? Because that's some lovely poo poo
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Feb 9, 2020 18:40
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Walked posted:How did they resolve this? Because that's some lovely poo poo I asked the judge to hold up on a ruling and for the guy to describe things from game one (see post above) before he eventually said "gently caress it, give it to him" , though french so probably less vulgar. It was probably a mistake trying to blitz through sideboarding to get G2 started when we had like 1 minute left, neither of us had decks that would get a kill in extra turns. edit: The judge was apologetic but said unless I could prove it was only the one game we played it would be a draw, that's when I started asking the guy loads of questions. ilmucche fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Feb 9, 2020 18:44
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That's hosed up and the exact sort of dishonorable poo poo that should get you tossed+banned from playing.
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axeil posted:That's hosed up and the exact sort of dishonorable poo poo that should get you tossed+banned from playing. lying to a judge during an investigation is pretty much an instant DQ, not sure what the hell the judge was doing there unless it was some FNM-level tournament.
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Lone Goat posted:lying to a judge during an investigation is pretty much an instant DQ, not sure what the hell the judge was doing there unless it was some FNM-level tournament. Some judges are shy about investigations and DQs. I deck checked a guy playing legacy MUD and he had an unsleeved Steel Hellkite not listed in his 75 just chilling in his deck box. I was a fresh L2 at the time (this was before the level squish too) so I kicked it up the chain. guy didn’t even get D/DLP.
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Lone Goat posted:lying to a judge during an investigation is pretty much an instant DQ, not sure what the hell the judge was doing there unless it was some FNM-level tournament. Ultimately I didn't have definitive proof that it was only one game is the problem. The judge started asking about having a better look at my little life notebook to try and correlate with my previous opponent, and I started asking the guy about the match so he said gently caress it as he didn't want to bother with it going any further. I can't say if he was trying to cheat or not, honestly, and the judge can't take previous history into account. Thankfully he let it go, if the judge gave a draw I probably would've eaten a solid warning for swearing in english as a draw would've knocked us both out of any chance of prizing/making the cut on a bullshit play.
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DangerDongs posted:I made top 8 of my 1k Pioneer with Sultai D. We split the pot, and that deck is gas. It's basically a bye for my opponents this weekend yes.  Currently 9-3 at GP Phoenix!
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Feb 9, 2020 20:05
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I've definitely brain farted and congratulated my opponent on winning the match after an arduous game one but fortunately wasn't playing against literal garbage. That is some insane level of bullshit to even contemplate pulling.
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Feb 9, 2020 20:05
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ilmucche posted:and the judge can't take previous history into account. This is untrue. Judges can and do take past behavior into account when making rulings involving player behavior. Also, it shouldn't have been your job to prove he was lying. The judge should've talked to each of you away from the other and figured out what game you were on.
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Feb 9, 2020 20:59
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It's almost as if low-level judges are poorly-trained unpaid volunteers who receive barely any structural support and are basically left to come up with their own methods to resolve problems more or less on the spot, leading two of the same judge call in two different places often having wildly different outcomes.
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Mr. Locke posted:It's almost as if low-level judges are poorly-trained unpaid volunteers who receive barely any structural support and are basically left to come up with their own methods to resolve problems more or less on the spot, leading two of the same judge call in two different places often having wildly different outcomes. To be fair to the judge, he wanted to start a proper discussion and find my previous opponent to compare my scratchings of numbers to his but the current opponent said gently caress it give him the win so he let it go. I don't think the judge wanted to push it further to keep the tournament moving as we were the last game. The judge is a good dude and I think he was judging one of the mkm tourneys earlier this weekend. We had a talk afterward about how to avoid ending up in the same situation when I'm recording life totals which was basically write down what game I'm on and what results are so I know where one match ends and the next begins instead of filling my pad up with shitloads of columns. It'll bug me for today, but I know for next time and still had a good time playing with cardboard. Going to focus on that I went 7-2 this weekend in total and won a few cards I'll use in the future 
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Mr. Locke posted:It's almost as if low-level judges are poorly-trained unpaid volunteers who receive barely any structural support and are basically left to come up with their own methods to resolve problems more or less on the spot, leading two of the same judge call in two different places often having wildly different outcomes. Actually, I think you'll find that judges are reverse-paid these days.
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ilmucche posted:though french so probably less vulgar. 
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love the sultai deck jacob wilson played in the top8 of the pt thing satyr wayfinder, ishkanah, murderous rider, vryn's prodigy, tracker, courser, f'ing emrakul, and traverse to tie it all together 
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Rinkles posted:love the sultai deck jacob wilson played in the top8 of the pt thing This won the PT in Brussels last week! It's what I want to play next just because I played way too much mono red this week.
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Why do people call that deck Sultai Delirium? I’m not getting where that word comes from.
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cause it's a sultai colored deck with a heavy delirium/graveyard theme? e:delirium was an ability word in shadows over innistrad, if that's what you were missing
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Rinkles posted:cause it's a sultai colored deck with a heavy delirium/graveyard theme? Thanks yes, I’ve never played a Khans or Innistrad block
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Bust Rodd posted:Why do people call that deck Sultai Delirium? I’m not getting where that word comes from. Traverse the Ulvenwald and Ishkanah have that keyword and Emrakul plays into that mechanic (caring about types in graveyard). All of those were parts of the quite good GB Delirium archetype back in Standard, but other Delirium cards (Grim Flayer, Gnarlwood Dryad) made way for just good pioneer legal BUG cards, including those that care about graveyard in general (ie Uro, JVP) fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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ilmucche posted:I asked the judge to hold up on a ruling and for the guy to describe things from game one (see post above) before he eventually said "gently caress it, give it to him" , though french so probably less vulgar. Him being French makes this story a lot more funny imo
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https://twitter.com/channelfireball/status/1226697717448986625?s=21 It really gives me life that in light of all these people squawking endlessly about the Dimir Inverter or Lotus Breach that people are just sleeving up some honest magic cards and beating people to death Also shout outs to my mans Huey https://twitter.com/top8games/status/1226884458718154753?s=21 Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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That deck is about as focused as it's possible to be on 'kill you on turn 4 with two large guys'
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Top 8 archetypes were: 2x U/B Inverter G/B Stompy U/G Eldrazi U/W Control Bant Spirits Mono-Red Aggro Lotus Breach
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Its astounding how many pioneer decks are made up of cards printed almost entirely in the last 3 years.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Its astounding how many pioneer decks are made up of cards printed almost entirely in the last 3 years. mtg design 2012-2016 was a bunch of underpowered horseshit and a few completely broken cards, the latter of which are mostly banned in pioneer
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The further they power/banlist Pioneer into mostly post-Arena sets, the less work they have to do to effectively bring Pioneer to Arena.
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It seems like they're done with historic. No new antholgy sets after that first one.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:mtg design 2012-2016 was a bunch of underpowered horseshit and a few completely broken cards, the latter of which are mostly banned in pioneer
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Cheen posted:It seems like they're done with historic. No new antholgy sets after that first one. They had Historic Anthology 2 on the last release calendar I saw, halfway through this set like last time. Did they announce something this weekend I missed?
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Huxley posted:They had Historic Anthology 2 on the last release calendar I saw, halfway through this set like last time. Did they announce something this weekend I missed? Nope, I was going off a lack of news. Can you link me to the calendar, please?
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