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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

I think it's cool. I feel like in China, one of the hardest parts of fomenting discontent is just getting people to see that they aren't alone in their desire for change and shouting is a hell of a lot harder to track down than social media posts.

Delta-Wye fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Feb 9, 2020

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Im Ready for DEATH
Oct 5, 2016

Sound posted:

standard world health protocol relax

ah yes, Lawful Evil, my favorite alignment

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Can’t you just wet down a disposable with alcohol and then let it dry?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


so if we had an outbreak in the us we would be seeing new cases by now wouldn’t we? starting to feel like we may have gotten this contained

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

Shaocaholica posted:

Can’t you just wet down a disposable with alcohol and then let it dry?

The filters stop working pretty quick on N95, because they collect so many particles

You have to be able to replace the filter

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

PIZZA.BAT posted:

so if we had an outbreak in the us we would be seeing new cases by now wouldn’t we? starting to feel like we may have gotten this contained

You're assuming that people with flu-like symptoms are all going to the doctor and getting checked out. This isn't the case in the US.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


PIZZA.BAT posted:

so if we had an outbreak in the us we would be seeing new cases by now wouldn’t we? starting to feel like we may have gotten this contained

According to this thread, we'll know in a week. (Said a week ago and will be said a week from now when not much happens here still.)

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
So they made a Coronavirus song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmrp9BTLOJ0

Beats Hillary's Fight Song in my book

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Oh snap have any chinese celebs got it yet?

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

frogge posted:

According to this thread, we'll know in a week. (Said a week ago and will be said a week from now when not much happens here still.)

There Bias Two posted:

You're assuming that people with flu-like symptoms are all going to the doctor and getting checked out. This isn't the case in the US.

The CDC is recommending against testing anyone for 2019nCoV unless they know they’ve had a history of travel from Hubei Province in the past 14 dates AND a fever AND signs lower respiratory infection. So even if infected carriers are roaming around right now, hacking up their lungs at Walmart, when they finally ask a doctor to get tested, they might get completely dismissed for not having any known direct relationship with traveling to Mainland China.

All the official reports estimate 2-14 days incubation period, and multiple sources have confirmed mild symptoms for the first two weeks, with severe symptoms developing around the third week.

Given the timeline, we would probably expect to see a similar explosion of cases outside of China of severe pneumonia after late February, assuming people seek hospitalization.


Here’s a nice podcast from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.
https://anchor.fm/lshtm

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

This is all either a big nothing burger or we're kinda hosed on

Either way, lol

Chrs
Sep 21, 2015

PathAsc posted:

This is all either a big nothing burger or we're kinda hosed on

Either way, lol

You’d think 3 weeks on we’d have a better indication by now of which it’s going to be

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


PathAsc posted:

This is all either a big nothing burger or we're kinda hosed on

Either way, lol

yup. welcome to pandemics!

the frustrating part is we have to treat each one incredibly seriously and because we prevented a widespread outbreak idiots then believe that these are all hype and whatever

frogge
Apr 7, 2006


2-14 days later on a disease that we've known has been hopping from person to person since... December? Whoever posted that this disease is possibly a trial run for the PRC to assert its power over its citizens and see what they can get away with during the crisis is starting to seem more and more likely to be the case the longer this goes on without a sudden spike in hospitalizations in other countries. There's a lot of one handed posting by people that are fear-mongering and getting off on it and every week the time to panic about it gets a reset instead of the slightest acknowledgement that maybe this isn't going to end civilization as we know it.

Dinosaurs!
May 22, 2003

IMO this bring some kind of top-down exercise for the PRC to tighten its grip instead of a bunch of incompetent bureaucrats trying to coordinate with each other is giving them too much credit.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Computer Serf posted:

The CDC is recommending against testing anyone for 2019nCoV unless they know they’ve had a history of travel from Hubei Province in the past 14 dates AND a fever AND signs lower respiratory infection. So even if infected carriers are roaming around right now, hacking up their lungs at Walmart, when they finally ask a doctor to get tested, they might get completely dismissed for not having any known direct relationship with traveling to Mainland China.

You can't test every person with flu-like symptoms during flu season when many people are just regular sick. So if a walmart in Topeka becomes the epicenter of an outbreak in the US, there will be a new set of testing guidelines for Topeka and Topeka-related cases. Sucks for Topeka, but at least there will be enough testing capacity to do all the sick people in Topeka because we haven't squandered it in advance.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Chrs posted:

You’d think 3 weeks on we’d have a better indication by now of which it’s going to be

International flight restrictions only begin around January 29th, and by that time symptomatic cases were already sprouting up in other countries.


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

New England Journal of Medicine posted:

A 33-year-old otherwise healthy German businessman (Patient 1) became ill with a sore throat, chills, and myalgias on January 24, 2020. The following day, a fever of 39.1°C (102.4°F) developed, along with a productive cough. By the evening of the next day, he started feeling better and went back to work on January 27.

Before the onset of symptoms, he had attended meetings with a Chinese business partner at his company near Munich on January 20 and 21. The business partner, a Shanghai resident, had visited Germany between January 19 and 22. During her stay, she had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection but had become ill on her flight back to China

Some travel stats:

Journal of Travel Medicine posted:

We analyzed international airline passenger trips from the following ten cities: Wuhan, Beijing, Shanghai, Kunming, Chengdu, Xiamen, Haikou, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, and Hong Kong. Figure 1 depicts the final destinations of passenger volumes from these cities, for both direct and connecting flights. Further details can be viewed in Appendix 1. Taipei (1,359,253), Bangkok (1,232,307), Tokyo (1,086,105), Seoul (1,008,960), and Singapore (751,064) received the highest number of passengers from the aforementioned cities. Nine of the 10 cities receiving the highest volumes of arriving passengers were in Asia, with London, U.K. ranking 10th in volume (252,127). Other European cities include Paris (ranked 25th; 142,724 passengers), and Moscow
th th
(ranked 29 ; 114,925 passengers). Sydney ranked 11 , receiving 242,577 passengers, while Los
Angeles (184,808), New York (148,133), and San Francisco (140,556) received the highest volumes to North American destinations. Cairo (62,470) is the only African city represented in the top 50 destinations, whereas no South American city is represented.

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jtm/taaa011/5716260?searchresult=1

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Trainee PornStar posted:

I'm still pissed that I'm waiting on my replacement Gigabyte laptop...

2 weeks so far, these chinese fellas need to get their arses in gear!! ;)
https://i.imgur.com/rI13sdV.mp4

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

poty posted:

So they made a Coronavirus song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmrp9BTLOJ0

Beats Hillary's Fight Song in my book

"we watch with compassion, the long flow of the yangtze river & yellow river, we gather the power of the people in china"

I might be wrong but aren't the yangtze & yellow rivers basically dead because of pollutants?

But anyways, LOL!!

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
Yeah but Chinese history basically says, if you hold those two rivers you are China

So if you are trying to play up chineseness you have to talk the rivers up

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
lol @ the idea of a non-polluted river

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
fair enough point :)

*edit*
was replying to bob dobbs is dead, though gary oldmans oldtits has another good point.

Trainee PornStar fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Feb 9, 2020

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Is China pro or anti robotics? I mean, what’s the point of a large population if you can replace most of them with robots.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Gotta have a strong river game if you wanna be China

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226290936562536448

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
I've been reading that china has an ageing population (read, old fucks live longer) same as the rest of the world & that is going to make things worse.
Is this true? sounds feasible.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Not just China :corsair:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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PIZZA.BAT posted:

yup. welcome to pandemics!

the frustrating part is we have to treat each one incredibly seriously and because we prevented a widespread outbreak idiots then believe that these are all hype and whatever

It doesn't help that goons/the media in general seem to play up every single problem as a pending existential threat

remember a few weeks ago when people were earnestly claiming world war 3 was around the corner because trump droned some rear end in a top hat from a country that can barely project power in its own region

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Colonel Cancer posted:

Not just China :corsair:

Hence mentioning 'same as the rest of the world' :P

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Trainee PornStar posted:

Hence mentioning 'same as the rest of the world' :P

drat my reading comprehension is in the terlet today

Im Ready for DEATH
Oct 5, 2016

There Bias Two posted:

You're assuming that people with flu-like symptoms are all going to the doctor and getting checked out. This isn't the case in the US.

My copay is $50 for a regular visit to PCP. I'm not going to the Dr. unless I'm near death.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


Fojar38 posted:

It doesn't help that goons/the media in general seem to play up every single problem as a pending existential threat

remember a few weeks ago when people were earnestly claiming world war 3 was around the corner because trump droned some rear end in a top hat from a country that can barely project power in its own region

Yeah but that was legitimately scary. It wasn’t about the fear of getting bombed by Iraq or something. It was the fear of our power hungry rear end in a top hat president getting us involved in yet another conflict in the Middle East. For example, one of my neighbors is in the military and is scheduled to get out this spring - he, his wife, and a lot of their friends were pretty worried for a few days that he would get redeployed.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Fojar38 posted:

remember a few weeks ago when people were earnestly claiming world war 3 was around the corner because trump droned some rear end in a top hat from a country that can barely project power in its own region

If no one else does, I do mate..

I think anyone who gets old enough will have heard similar bullshit before that panned out to be nothing, at that point you start ignoring everything because it's always bullshit.

One day this school of thought will bite us in the arse.

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
https://twitter.com/xuhulk/status/1226584043824852993

I for one would not be ready for 3 weeks with the in-laws

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Ruggan posted:

Yeah but that was legitimately scary. It wasn’t about the fear of getting bombed by Iraq or something.

The rhetoric was explicitly "world war 3" which has very specific, usually apocalyptic, connotations that aren't applicable to yet another middle eastern military intervention

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

poty posted:

https://twitter.com/xuhulk/status/1226584043824852993

I for one would not be ready for 3 weeks with the in-laws

man!!! my replacement laptop is never going to turn up is it?

Im Ready for DEATH
Oct 5, 2016

yeah the company that provides 50% of our RM is currently on the "Notice: vacation extended to 2/17" tier.

Luckyellow
Sep 25, 2007

Pillbug
So disposable masks isn't going to work. Do you have any suggestions on a good reusable masks that I can get?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
They are now finally on back order, lol

What’s your location?

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poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

Trainee PornStar posted:

man!!! my replacement laptop is never going to turn up is it?

I mean Gigabyte has its headquarters in Taiwan, which is an island quite far away from "the mess" and has about as many cases as Australia (18 vs 15)

On the other hand, they probably have factories in China...

poty fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 9, 2020

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