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Codependent Poster posted:No bits, no all access, no idle streamers watching because no drops... Yeah they need to have been paid a lot. I think blizzard really cracked the code on esports monetization: rich assholes and mega corps that will invest tens of millions each into your league. The viewers were always secondary to that insane influx of cash they got for franchising, broadcast rights, etc.
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e: nvm Clips from Dogman spectating Valla VS Dallas https://clips.twitch.tv/NaiveAuspiciousLyrebirdGOWSkull https://clips.twitch.tv/PlayfulQuaintMomCorgiDerp Trill's Dead Shatter https://www.twitch.tv/dogman/clip/CuteShortDonkeySmoocherZ Ignis fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Gotta say, the VODs are already better. Already watched Toronto vs Paris and now on London vs NYXL. It's way easier to navigate now that they're quickly splitting them off into single Youtube videos (last two years they were splitting every match up into separate videos for all four maps) instead of having to navigate the Twitch stream to the right times.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 05:54 |
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Ignis posted:McGravy is here to eat your ults I know gig has been setting some records but lol
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 08:06 |
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Ignis posted:Silver linings - looks like the replay viewer is already updated! Dogman isnt using a public replay system.
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oh woops, I didn't think he was leaking that sort of stuff. e: gig got better as the match went through, he was very shaky at the beginning. I'll chalk it to him being a late addition to the team plus stage jitters. https://twitter.com/auzziejleesexy/status/1226385105842659328 Ignis fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Bottom Liner posted:I think blizzard really cracked the code on esports monetization: rich assholes and mega corps that will invest tens of millions each into your league. The viewers were always secondary to that insane influx of cash they got for franchising, broadcast rights, etc. Viewer #s are 100% the thing that drives every other aspect of esports being profitable and blizzard being able to demand x for franchises and y for broadcast rights. If OWL pans out than yeah they cracked it, but that still very much remains to be seen and twitch deciding not to renew the deal was a big blow
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 11:37 |
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Twitch didn't choose not to renew, they just didn't bid as high as Youtube did. From what Sideshow was saying on his stream, Youtube bid pretty high because they're trying to aggressively move into the esports streaming market with OWL, CoD, and Fortnite. The question is going to be if the extra money Youtube paid up front will be worth it if there's significant viewer drop off from the switch.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 11:52 |
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Have we heard what the deal was worth? Because that statement depends a lot on how much they ended up getting. E: reading up on it, it appears that a big part of it was likely an exchange of services in return for the broadcasting rights? Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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So blizzard employees get to watch YouTube videos at work for free???
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 14:19 |
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blizz has 250m a year of hosting/server costs so there's a lot of reason for them to consider that kind of exchange, it just wouldn't look great if you're trying to prove to people that your esports league is worth cash money. Who knows though, I'm sure we'll get more details at some point.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 14:23 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Viewer #s are 100% the thing that drives every other aspect of esports being profitable and blizzard being able to demand x for franchises and y for broadcast rights. If OWL pans out than yeah they cracked it, but that still very much remains to be seen and twitch deciding not to renew the deal was a big blow My point is that they made the bulk of their money up front without proving any viewership or profitability. All those investors bought in hard and by all accounts are not making anywhere near their money back.
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Bottom Liner posted:My point is that they made the bulk of their money up front without proving any viewership or profitability. All those investors bought in hard and by all accounts are not making anywhere near their money back. So it's just a Ponzi scheme.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 15:27 |
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Everyone thinks one game is going to become THE esport and want to get in on the ground floor. The crazy part to me is not that teams took a flyer for 20 million, it's that after seeing season one people bought in for 60 million.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Have we heard what the deal was worth? Because that statement depends a lot on how much they ended up getting. It’s going to be hilarious when google gets bored and some random gcp service critical to WoW goes eol with no warning. I work with a lot of different company’s cloud services and if gcp comes up it’s usually a punchline to a joke.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 15:46 |
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hobbesmaster posted:It’s going to be hilarious when google gets bored and some random gcp service critical to WoW goes eol with no warning. There’s a reason AWS and Microsoft own 90% of the market share even though Google was the first on the block. I do like Quiklabs, but that’s more because they don’t really run it and I’ve never not had free credits.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 16:00 |
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No Russian cast for OWL apparently https://twitter.com/andygmb1/status/1226531902066188290?s=20
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 19:11 |
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I've been really underwhelmed by Nico over the course of these two games, but using Mei's icicle to block D.va's ult from killing Rein was brilliant. I didn't even know you could do that. Also, FDGOD is my favorite new player so far. Glister seems fine but overrated.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 20:31 |
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Hell yeah, watching FDGOD frag out was a pleasure
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 20:40 |
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surf rock posted:I've been really underwhelmed by Nico over the course of these two games, but using Mei's icicle to block D.va's ult from killing Rein was brilliant. I didn't even know you could do that. If you do a Symmetra turret-teleport and have mei go as well and freeze herself on the teleporter, the turrets are invulnerable until it ends
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 20:53 |
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Pattonesque posted:If you do a Symmetra turret-teleport and have mei go as well and freeze herself on the teleporter, the turrets are invulnerable until it ends That still works? I thought it was patched out
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 21:01 |
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Deathy McDeath posted:That still works? I thought it was patched out possibly? that's a good question Also Boston throwing the end of that first map lol
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 21:08 |
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MARRIED MAN META
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 21:08 |
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JJonak taking these 1 vs 1s rules.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:03 |
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Codependent Poster posted:JJonak taking these 1 vs 1s rules. It's pretty great now that he gets to play Ana again
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:04 |
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so is there gonna be an hour of downtime now because these games ended too fast
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:14 |
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Just realized that this is going to be an entire day of 3-0verwatch. Oof. It is fun that Paris dunked on London, though. Also, it is the dumbest poo poo in the world that they make you switch streams midway through the day and it must be absolute poison for their viewership.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:15 |
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surf rock posted:Also, it is the dumbest poo poo in the world that they make you switch streams midway through the day and it must be absolute poison for their viewership. (ATL Reign head coach) should probably be fixed soon if it wasn't already fixed for today, because people in OWL obviously hate it
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:21 |
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https://twitter.com/OnFireSemmler/status/1226603235571531776
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:22 |
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They seem really determined to play this commercial about how "dope" their "technical apparrel" for gamers is. It's... kind of sad.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 22:57 |
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Tell me more about her armband
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:00 |
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Valiant should 100% have won that first map; KSF totally hosed up his first blizzard.
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:18 |
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Valla Titans is on now
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:18 |
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why is the COD League ad in portrait
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:42 |
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Valiant lookin insane on blizzard world attack
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:47 |
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Rain got too cocky at the end there https://twitter.com/reinforce/status/1226626015033585665
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# ? Feb 9, 2020 23:59 |
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YouTube's video had the red "live" indicator meaning I was up-to-date with the actual stream But then I set it to 2x speed and it ran for quite some time at double speed What does this mean
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 00:24 |
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it's prob like setting up a delay on twitch but youtube's fastforward can ignore it
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 00:43 |
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gently caress yes, Bren and Sideshow are back
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My thoughts and prayers go out to Fuel fans in these trying times
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