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I'm curious to know how those negotiations went. I wonder if there was a number WWE could have offered that would have got them, or if the idea of AEW already had too much momentum. I know there was that rumor about a six month out. That probably backfired on WWE since anyone could see how that would play out. A few years from now that'll be a fun thing to look back on.
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I'm curious to know how those negotiations went. I wonder if there was a number WWE could have offered that would have got them, or if the idea of AEW already had too much momentum. Its WWE, there's nothing they could offer because WWE will screw you on every promise they try to make because WWE is a zoo of malcontents and derelicts plus an entire of generation of Happy To Be Here types in the wings.
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Feb 10, 2020 04:11
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Yeah anyone falling for the 'we'll say anything to get you in the door then gently caress you over for five straight years' trick nowadays has been warned for a long time
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Feb 10, 2020 04:13
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I don't think they ever would have signed. I just want to know the mentality of everyone involved as it was happening. It might be a fun 30 for 30 down the road.
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Feb 10, 2020 04:29
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could you imagine Hangman Page having to report to the performance center. we'd never see him again
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Feb 10, 2020 04:31
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PASS THE MASH posted:I just didn’t get why she stood there while PAC threatened someone she cared about completely silently. Riho low key has never been established as actually speaking or understanding English.
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Feb 10, 2020 04:37
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I don't think they ever would have signed. I just want to know the mentality of everyone involved as it was happening. It might be a fun 30 for 30 down the road. I think the Bucks at least have said that they legitimately seriously considered it. Even if they knew WWE was gonna gently caress them over the moment the out clause was done with, it must have been pretty tempting for guys who had spent their lives hustling to be guaranteed a shitload of money to secure their family's financial security. Turns out they were able to do that AND keep their creativity too AND get EVP roles to boot over in AEW 
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Feb 10, 2020 05:03
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They did the right thing because even if AEW were to fail, and it may someday, but I doubt any time soon, they’ll be able to walk right into WWE as top stars no matter what.
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Feb 10, 2020 05:09
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Imagining the Merch Freak descending into madness as the ShopZone releases Young Bucks cum shirt after cum shirt.
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Feb 10, 2020 05:11
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Alaois posted:could you imagine Hangman Page having to report to the performance center. "hangman" would definitely be out. so would adam because they already have adam cole and people would get confused with all the adams. also he can't be page because people might just say his last name and get him confused with paige. congratulations Buddy Ironstag on your wwe developmental contract
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Feb 10, 2020 05:12
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:"hangman" would definitely be out. so would adam because they already have adam cole and people would get confused with all the adams. also he can't be page because people might just say his last name and get him confused with paige. He'd be one half of the New Smoking Guns in a heartbeat
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Feb 10, 2020 05:17
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:"hangman" would definitely be out. so would adam because they already have adam cole and people would get confused with all the adams. also he can't be page because people might just say his last name and get him confused with paige. He'd be his real name for about six months until he becomes Stevey B
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Feb 10, 2020 05:21
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:"hangman" would definitely be out. so would adam because they already have adam cole and people would get confused with all the adams. also he can't be page because people might just say his last name and get him confused with paige. are you kidding, Buddy Ironstag has far too much personality and character. your new performance center body, Wayne Van Cleef
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Feb 10, 2020 05:36
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All those names have too much personality. He'd be Chester Harrington, and one day show up to work and be told he's just Harrington now.
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Feb 10, 2020 05:42
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Jerusalem posted:All those names have too much personality. He'd be Chester Harrington, and one day show up to work and be told he's just Harrington now. at first i thought Wayne Van Cleef was too on the nose, but then I remembered that this company deadass named a dude Dexter Lumis
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Feb 10, 2020 05:43
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Alaois posted:are you kidding, Buddy Ironstag has far too much personality and character. Buddy Ironstag sounds like the result of that dumb game where you combine the name of your first pet and the street you grew up on to make your porn name. If we're going that route, I'd like to suggest the name my coworker got from said game: Rusty Silverspur.
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Alaois posted:at first i thought Wayne Van Cleef was too on the nose, but then I remembered that this company deadass named a dude Dexter Lumis 
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Feb 10, 2020 05:48
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Jerusalem posted:All those names have too much personality. He'd be Chester Harrington, and one day show up to work and be told he's just Harrington now. i couldn't resist googling this name and the results are all obituaries for multiple unrelated men named Chester "Chet" Harrington, Jr. Why are all the Chester Harrington Jrs dying, J-ru.
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We're back. Come join us and learn about CHARLES BRONSON MEXICANO. https://twitter.com/BTSheetsPod/status/1226736375036284928
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sempervive is the loving worst
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Why are all the Chester Harrington Jrs dying, J-ru. Couldn't live up to the memory of all the Chester Harrington Srs, obviously 
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Feb 10, 2020 10:02
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I don't think they ever would have signed. I just want to know the mentality of everyone involved as it was happening. It might be a fun 30 for 30 down the road. Kenny said the negotiations were a pleasant surprise, I believe, but I can't imagine for a second he considered signing.
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Jerusalem posted:All those names have too much personality. He'd be Chester Harrington, and one day show up to work and be told he's just Harrington now. My brain just now: "the guy from Linkin Park?"
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Feb 10, 2020 10:14
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MJeff posted:Kenny said the negotiations were a pleasant surprise, I believe, but I can't imagine for a second he considered signing. Kenny and Vince bonded over both wanting Kota Ibushi but knowing they could never have him. 
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:"hangman" would definitely be out. so would adam because they already have adam cole and people would get confused with all the adams. also he can't be page because people might just say his last name and get him confused with paige. On the other hand there’s probably be a report about how in house shows he was trying out a gimmick that leans in hard on the sketchier interpretations of “Hangman”.
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Feb 10, 2020 14:02
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STAC Goat posted:On the other hand there’s probably be a report about how in house shows he was trying out a gimmick that leans in hard on the sketchier interpretations of “Hangman”. Vince hears this and thinks a gimmick where he sketches out a hangman and gets the audience to play the word game is a great time.
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Feb 10, 2020 15:26
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If it was WCW he'd debut as Hangman, a cowboy. Then they'd take him off tv and redebut him six months later as "Hang Man", the surfer.
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Feb 10, 2020 15:29
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MJeff posted:Kenny said the negotiations were a pleasant surprise, I believe, but I can't imagine for a second he considered signing. Wasn’t he offered like 5M per year for a long term deal? Like.... I dunno. Even if the job sucks you need to consider that kind of money. I can’t imagine the foreigner in japan was making that kind of bank. It’s a really gutsy move to turn that down and invest in yourself the way they did.
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Feb 10, 2020 15:36
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I remember Santana and Ortiz said that WWE threw all the money in the world at them, guaranteed them a main roster spot, and said they didn't have to move to Florida. They made it sound like they kept wanting to walk away and WWE kept offering more and they very nearly signed. They just ultimately decided they wanted the freedom and time to be dads.
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Feb 10, 2020 15:51
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Jordan7hm posted:Wasn’t he offered like 5M per year for a long term deal? I don't know if that's that difficult to turn down for the EVPs considering with WWE they'd still have to pay for their own healthcare and travel and never get to see their families. And one of the Bucks would've probably suffered a severe injury by now.
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Feb 10, 2020 15:59
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Big Huski Boi posted:I don't know if that's that difficult to turn down for the EVPs considering with WWE they'd still have to pay for their own healthcare and travel and never get to see their families. And one of the Bucks would've probably suffered a severe injury by now. considering the level of shitkicking Matt's back took from a combo ROH/NJPW tour I can't imagine how hosed up a WWE house show tour would make it.
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The Bucks in WWE just seems like such a bad bad idea for so many reasons. Their age, their health, their style, the basic state of tag wrestling in WWE. My only real question is would they have gotten broken up or would keeping them together lead to Gallows and Anderson getting broken up.
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Feb 10, 2020 16:05
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STAC Goat posted:The Bucks in WWE just seems like such a bad bad idea for so many reasons. Their age, their health, their style, the basic state of tag wrestling in WWE. My only real question is would they have gotten broken up or would keeping them together lead to Gallows and Anderson getting broken up.
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Feb 10, 2020 16:10
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Independent wrestler Bryan Alvarez will be in attendance at NXT Takeover in Portland. No word if he’ll be shown on camera yet.
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Feb 10, 2020 16:30
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honestly hangman should've never debuted in a majority non-white city as hangman page, the guy who actually loving hangs people over the top rope with a noose. they were smart and have just sorta forgotten about that portion of his gimmick. but his original gimmick was... bad. not good. would've preferred skip sheffield jr jr, idiot cowboy.
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Feb 10, 2020 16:58
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Super Chico vs Walter at the Takeover
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The TV talk is interesting because Bryan is right that within the next five years TV execs should figure out that wrestling isn't bringing them the things they claim they spent all the money for, but Dave is also right that they should've figured it out before this mega deal and didn't. It makes me wonder if the internal reasons for going after wrestling are different than the public ones? The next rights bidding period should be interesting for sure. Especially considering it's after the next big college football rights war to come.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Super Chico vs Walter at the Takeover Would unironically be a great match
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sleepwalkers posted:honestly hangman should've never debuted in a majority non-white city as hangman page, the guy who actually loving hangs people over the top rope with a noose. they were smart and have just sorta forgotten about that portion of his gimmick. but his original gimmick was... bad. not good. would've preferred skip sheffield jr jr, idiot cowboy. Its an element that kind of weirded me out when I wasn't really paying much attention to him, but the impression I got is that he kind of got the problem with it and gave a mea culpa and ditched the noose.
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