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i feel their scale is definitely underselling the job eiffel tower included, on the right  ed: birb tax 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Brunel wasn't Abraham Darby, the Clifton and Prince Albert bridges (and the Maidenhead Viaduct for that matter) are some serious loving engineering that went way beyond what anyone thought was possible with the materials of the time. If you gave him access to modern computers and metallurgy he'd probably come up with some poo poo you wouldn't believe. Also his habit of going ridiculously over-budget would put him right up with all the "best" civil engineers in the world at the moment. The one virtue I will credit the Victorians with is that they didn't give a gently caress about whether something was feasible, affordable, sane, or within the laws of engineering and, yes, physics itself. This applied equally whether they wanted to overrun an entire continent of people and enslave and exploit them or build massive engineering and architectural projects, so it's hardly an unmitigated good, but we could probably do with at least a little bit more of it these days.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:29
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How about a dynamic bridge? A structure that has just enough rigidity to support itself, but each section pumps up water from the Irish Sea and fires it down with enough thrust to support traffic? It's no less realistic than any other proposal.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:30
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Guavanaut posted:Like given all the poo poo that the EU dumped into the environment either through consumer capitalism or unintended consequences of their various regulations i thought it was a referendum did it? not that the atlantic's any fresher for it ofc
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Feb 10, 2020 19:31
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I can get hype for the bridge from and to nowhere
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Feb 10, 2020 19:32
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What if, right, get this, we had... like a little section of bridge, enough to put some cars and people on, and then... it was really light, so it could float, and then we... moved the bit of bridge between the two places? We could even make several of them, and they could potentially go other places than just the two ends of the bridge? We could call it... the mobile bridge system?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:33
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OwlFancier posted:What if, right, get this, we had... like a little section of bridge, enough to put some cars and people on, and then... it was really light, so it could float, and then we... moved the bit of bridge between the two places? You’d have to be there at the right time, or book them, so: Bridge on application transport system?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:35
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someone already wrote a book explaining the design and workings of the Boris Bridge
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Feb 10, 2020 19:36
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Like uber for going on water.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:36
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OwlFancier posted:Like uber for going on water. Unter
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Feb 10, 2020 19:40
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forkboy84 posted:See, this is another argument for the bridge to the Mull of Kintyre: shorter, not having to go across an munitions & nuclear waste dump, & it'd give some long overdue spending on the road & transport infrastructure between that remote part of Scotland & civilisation. Make it a double bridge so it does rail & road, hell, make it a high speed train while you're at it. You could put in further bridges across Loch Fyne from Tarbert to Portvadie, then maybe from Tighnabruich to Bute, then you could hop from Bute to Great Cumbrae to Largs or from Bute back to the mainland at Knockdow and then another from Dunoon across to near Gourock. Build it as a dyke and use it for tidal power. Admittedly we'd have to grind up an entire Hebrides or two to get enough material, but who's going to miss them?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:41
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What if we put a garden on it?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:46
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Love too trim the hedges on the boris hellbridge while it flails around in the middle of the irish sea. 800 JSA applicants a week die by being flung off the bridge. The conservatives increase their vote share by 10% in 2025.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:48
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Guavanaut posted:How about a dynamic bridge? A structure that has just enough rigidity to support itself, but each section pumps up water from the Irish Sea and fires it down with enough thrust to support traffic? I'll give you the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM
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Feb 10, 2020 19:51
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Just build it out of hard light like the Forerunners did, what's the big issue?
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Feb 10, 2020 19:52
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:We're gonna dig up Isambard Kingdom Brunel. He'll bridge the gently caress out of that gap. nah we should ask elon musk to do it, if only to see how bad it could be
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Feb 10, 2020 19:53
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Hobo posted:Joined Labour (Bath, feel free to update the CLP list!) just before the election, and tonight I'm finally going to my first meeting... which happens to be the CLP nomination meeting. Bath, eh? As an NES goon, you're right next door. Bath CLP is large and well-funded despite coming in a constant third place to the Conservatives and Lib Dems, and might be a bit melty. There's no significant Momentum presence in the BANES area - there was a branch, but it kind of imploded, and Momentum never gets back to us when we try to get in contact about starting a new one. Be sure to ask questions about Starmer's membership of the Trilateral Commission - it seems kind of odd that someone running for the leadership of a socialist mass movement should be on the 2019 membership list of an extremely exclusive group of extremely wealthy and influential people who are ideologically opposed to socialist mass movements and are headed by the guy who headed the ECB during the 2009 recession, an official in the US occupation of Iraq who became an advisor to Mitt Romney, and a pharmaceutical CEO whose company was sued for billions after they concealed evidence that their flagship diabetes drug was causing bladder cancer.
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Feb 10, 2020 19:54
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Darth Walrus posted:Bath, eh? As an NES goon, you're right next door. *In extremely Year 6 voice* MEGA DRIVE IS BEST!! SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T!
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Feb 10, 2020 19:58
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The bridge is a stupid idea and he's going to spend millions on consultancy fees to Conservative donors to be told its a stupid idea and the press will turn a blind eye. Anyway, a Conservative mp has a better analysis of Labour's loss than everyone who writes for the guardian. https://twitter.com/ChrisKPH/status/1226902668578377733?s=19
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Feb 10, 2020 20:11
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BUILD THE BRIDGE, BUILD THE BRIDGE, BUILD THE BRIDGE  If it is single lane either way I will get one of those little mopeds whose maximum speed is something like 40mph and I will drive to Scotland and back of a Sunday just to piss everyone off
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Feb 10, 2020 20:13
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That's why I don't buy the freedom of movement thing from keir. Cos yeah, he might try it, but his pitch is clearly gonna be "rejoin the EU, pretend it never happened" which is absolutely stupid.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:13
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ThomasPaine posted:Am I mistaken or is coronavirus not actually that deadly unless you're sick or old or young? I thought the issue was a morbidity thing rather than a mortality one? I'm fairly unconcerned. Maybe I should be?? This is one of the reasons why working out the mortality rate isn't simply a matter of dividing the number of confirmed cases with the number of fatalities. There's almost definitely an unknown but statistically significant number of people who end up with a mild dose of the disease and end up taking a lemsip and toughing it out. This must be especially tempting to try if you're worried about being tossed into a plague gulag if you come forward for help.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:17
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OwlFancier posted:What if, right, get this, we had... like a little section of bridge, enough to put some cars and people on, and then... it was really light, so it could float, and then we... moved the bit of bridge between the two places? Ask the people of Cowes about their floating bridge which only has a span of 100 metres to cross
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Feb 10, 2020 20:17
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What the gently caress why is that real???
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Feb 10, 2020 20:18
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crispix posted:BUILD THE BRIDGE, BUILD THE BRIDGE, BUILD THE BRIDGE Soylent Yellow posted:This is one of the reasons why working out the mortality rate isn't simply a matter of dividing the number of confirmed cases with the number of fatalities. There's almost definitely an unknown but statistically significant number of people who end up with a mild dose of the disease and end up taking a lemsip and toughing it out. This must be especially tempting to try if you're worried about being tossed into a plague gulag if you come forward for help. 
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Feb 10, 2020 20:21
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turns out making a boat so you can drive onto and off it means it's also got gaping loving holes in both ends.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:21
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thespaceinvader posted:turns out making a boat so you can drive onto and off it means it's also got gaping loving holes in both ends. Yeah but ferries are... a solved problem, there's ways around that. You don't need to reinvent it from first principles.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:24
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Pablo Bluth posted:What if we put a garden on it? I was going to say - it'd be several years after it was supposed to happen, and in a completely different place, but all his supporters would say that he kept his promise to build that garden bridge that never got built when he was mayor. this bridge will also never be built, nor will any other cool bridges while Johnson is in charge of anything
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Feb 10, 2020 20:32
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UnquietDream posted:Isle of Wight, I remember it well. Thanks for posting this. Really interesting stuff.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:43
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Convinced the bridge, along with the garden bridge, were/are projects simply designed to funnel public money to "consultants". It's a great idea tbf. Pay a load of money out for feasibility studies, engineering consultancy, etc. etc. and then say "actually nah we're not doing it". Don't have to have anything to show for it, and you've successfully siphoned off millions of pounds.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:43
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I think the average age in this Bath CLP meeting must be firmly in the 50s, is that typical?
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Feb 10, 2020 20:44
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Anyone who thinks building a bridge between NI and Scotland is a good idea has never been stuck on a ferry in the Irish Sea during a winter storm.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:44
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Hobo posted:I think the average age in this Bath CLP meeting must be firmly in the 50s, is that typical? About true for mine yeah. A mix of interesting 50-60 somethings, the odd younger one, and a wall of geriatric old gammons.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:48
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While this is absolutely a means of giving millions of pounds of public money to consultancy firms and never building anything at all this is exactly the sort of glamourous failure that can be weaponised for years to come as all other investment spending fails to materialise.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:50
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Hobo posted:I think the average age in this Bath CLP meeting must be firmly in the 50s, is that typical? They trend old, yeah. It's unpaid volunteer work, which is challenging for people of working age to seriously engage in.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:51
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Darth Walrus posted:They trend old, yeah. It's unpaid volunteer work, which is challenging for people of working age to seriously engage in. For the membership or for the exec? I understand for the latter, just expected that out of the 50 odd people in this meeting it would bit slightly more of an even mix.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:54
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Hobo posted:For the membership or for the exec? I understand for the latter, just expected that out of the 50 odd people in this meeting it would bit slightly more of an even mix. Even attending meetings on the regular can be tricky if you have other stuff to do. Bath is, in some ways, fortunate, because most people in the constituency will be able to reach your meeting spot via public transport or walking. In rural constituencies, getting to a meeting can require a lot more advance planning, especially if you can't drive.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:57
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Borrovan posted:loving hell that's another level of bad. Blaming migrants for undercutting wages is the worst thing I have heard from any leadership candidate by a country mile. We heard it from Corbyn too. Labour is going to let Brexit shift the entire party into accepting Tory narratives.
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Feb 10, 2020 21:00
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https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1226885807660617728 I can't even be bothered coming up with some funny thing to go with this. They're not even attempting to hide it any more.
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Burgon live on Novara momentarily. https://twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1226957934363660291?s=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr6YD63GuRE
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