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It's better for some people to buy masks early, to give suppliers time to restock if more are needed later, than for everyone to try to buy them all at once. I haven't bought a mask, and I don't know that I will, but taking precautionary measures when there's a known threat of uncertain potential out there isn't hoarding.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:11 |
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Klyith posted:Most people buy masks because it's easy and don't actually do the hygiene part. But let's put that aside. Why weren't you wearing masks 2 months ago? It was flu season, flu can kill people. You had an infinitely higher chance of getting flu back in december than the ~0% chance of encountering coronavirus in the US right now. You can beep boop this all you want and you can even do it and be correct but you're kinda just wasting breath. People are going to buy masks because we're not perfectly rational organisms and having masks handy makes a lot of people feel better.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:13 |
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1226915470667849730
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:19 |
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The mask argument is starting to sound a lot like "having seatbelts and airbags makes you a less cautious driver "
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:22 |
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Sinteres posted:It's better for some people to buy masks early, to give suppliers time to restock if more are needed later, than for everyone to try to buy them all at once. I haven't bought a mask, and I don't know that I will, but taking precautionary measures when there's a known threat of uncertain potential out there isn't hoarding. No, it's better to leave the masks on the shelf so that instead of restocking the US the suppliers can send them to places they're needed like China, and without forcing the people who need them to compete with US purchasing power. We can afford to pay $5 for masks here and there aren't an infinite supply. William Henry Hairytaint posted:You can beep boop this all you want and you can even do it and be correct but you're kinda just wasting breath. People are going to buy masks because we're not perfectly rational organisms and having masks handy makes a lot of people feel better. Like I started this over someone saying that people were not evaluating the risks correctly in the opposite direction, with a made up statistic. People can feel better about having masks to ward off a disease on the opposite side of the world, but doing so is an overall negative at the moment. If anyone likes to talk about the idea of good socialist welfare, now we can walk the walk.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:31 |
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Klyith posted:Most people buy masks because it's easy and don't actually do the hygiene part. But let's put that aside. Why weren't you wearing masks 2 months ago? It was flu season, flu can kill people. You had an infinitely higher chance of getting flu back in december than the ~0% chance of encountering coronavirus in the US right now. The whole 'but the flu kills people toooooo!" thing is stupid. Slipping in the shower kills people. You still have to take a shower. Also its a ridiculous low chance a non-compromised person dies of the flu. This isn't the seasonal flu.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:33 |
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It's not stupid in that you personally are much more likely to get the flu it misses the point in that china doesn't shut down a bunch of cities for a month over the flu
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Imagine a shower... 10 times more slippery than the normal ones That's what the showers on a cruise ship are like Are you a bad enough dude to take that risk?
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:38 |
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The infected in the Japan cruise has doubled. Look like it won't take that long to spread to the whole ship.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:40 |
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If you didn’t wear a mask last flu season you don’t deserve to wear one now just to be logically consistent.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 19:54 |
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coronavirus posted:Slipping in the shower kills people. You still have to take a shower.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:06 |
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stephenthinkpad posted:The infected in the Japan cruise has doubled.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:12 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Will this Breaking Bad costume work as a real bio suit??? Comes with a mask and everything. I am the one who coughs.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:20 |
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alphabettitouretti posted:I am the one who coughs. Just interact with everyone on board using only BB quotes.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:32 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Just interact with everyone on board using only BB quotes.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 20:56 |
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boy this virus situation is sure... breaking bad
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:00 |
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Japan is being really stupid. They are not even testing the people who are coughing but have no fever. What they need to do is rent out a few hotels like china and immidiately quarantine the people who have lease risk, move them out of the ship. And for the people who were living next to the infected guests and have a chance to be infected thru the ventilation system, move them to the other empty rooms and spread out the people into different quarters. This is the difference between an authoritarian country and a country that have too much rules nd regulations to make executive decision.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:06 |
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that's a dumb way to sum it up
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:08 |
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In 5 years were going to get a feel good story about Karen, who miraculously survived the plague ships, overcoming her fears of ocean liners by embarking on another cruise
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:52 |
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Goffer posted:In 5 years were going to get a feel good story about Karen, who miraculously survived the plague ships, overcoming her fears of ocean liners by embarking on another cruise And a movie in a year or so. Don’t forget the movie. It should have a title like “A Cruise to Nowhere” or “Sailing to Quarantine” something like that.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:55 |
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Goffer posted:In 5 years were going to get a feel good story about Karen, who miraculously survived the plague ships, overcoming her fears of ocean liners by embarking on another cruise A true modern day Violet Jessop
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:56 |
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Some people see the steps China is taking and take the leap of logic that this virus might be headed our way soon. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 21:58 |
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Sinteres posted:It's better for some people to buy masks early, to give suppliers time to restock if more are needed later, than for everyone to try to buy them all at once. I haven't bought a mask, and I don't know that I will, but taking precautionary measures when there's a known threat of uncertain potential out there isn't hoarding. No, it is objectively worse; healthcare professionals are experiencing mask shortages right now because too many no-risk people are hoarding them "just in case". Manufacturers don't need further incentives to ramp up production, they already know what's up
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:07 |
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Some people see the steps China is taking and take the leap of logic that this virus might be headed our way soon. I don't think that's unreasonable. My mother grew up in a household impacted severely by both the Spanish Flu and the Great Depression, literally a coal miner's daughter. She hoards food like you would not believe. I will confess that a childhood of that environment and current events has made me.. a touch concerned and feeling like my own cupboard is a bit barer than it should be. On the upside, Spam keeps for years if this all blows over. And I loving love Spam.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:15 |
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Just saw that there was a paper that just adjusted the number of fatalities rate in Hubei to about 18%. Yeah, I'm feeling better about getting myself some masks.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:22 |
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link?
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:31 |
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That paper isn't peer reviewed and you should take it with an enormous grain of salt.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:32 |
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Gearhead posted:And I love loving Spam. You fool! Didn't you know that SPAM has pangolin titty meat in it?! It's you! Patient Zero is you!
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:34 |
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Luckyellow posted:Just saw that there was a paper that just adjusted the number of fatalities rate in Hubei to about 18%. OH NO! A random poster on a dead gay comedy forum referenced a random paper and doesn't even link to it! I am concerned! In other news, I heard from my cousing Jerry that they're rounding people up and forcing them to masturbate pangolins so we can drink their semen to immunize ourselves. He says he read it in a paper somewhere. Totally forgot the name of it though. Guess you'll just have to believe me!
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:36 |
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Jeez I thought y'all were also following the other thread. My bad.Ogantai posted:Imperial College London (PDF) has updated its case fatality rate estimates: EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:That paper isn't peer reviewed and you should take it with an enormous grain of salt. Well that's good. What I do know is that about 10% of the people will end up in the ICU and that's what scares me the most, not the fatality rate. I can't afford a hospital over night stay, much less a week or more. Luckyellow fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 10, 2020 |
# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:40 |
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Has anyone posted this yet? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:40 |
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Luckyellow posted:Jeez I thought y'all were also following the other thread. My bad.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:42 |
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I read a new research paper suggesting that there's a 70% chance that this new coronavirus seals you up behind a wall in your wine cellar
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 22:42 |
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Luckyellow posted:Jeez I thought y'all were also following the other thread. My bad. makes sense - people outside of China are getting the absolute best medical care possible whereas people in Wuhan can't even get into hospitals mostly and are being quarantined at home or in camps with little to no medical care so when this starts spreading in Bangladesh or what have you, i'd imagine the rate would be over 2% :/ that said reading the paper they suggest this disparity may be due in part to the chinese not counting milder cases and the real takeaway i think isn't the 18% number (which has huge uncertainty) but the 'All Infections' CFR which is just under 1% with much more confidence Mozi fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 10, 2020 |
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coronavirus posted:You still have to take a shower. You forget your audience dear sir.... :P
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Luckyellow posted:Well that's good. What I do know is that about 10% of the people will end up in the ICU and that's what scares me the most, not the fatality rate. I can't afford a hospital over night stay, much less a week or more. I know it’s a ridiculous amount but much does a night in hospital cost you guys roughly?
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 23:44 |
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Guys this virus is no big deal. Sure there’s a weirdly good chance you’ll have your life destroyed by the medical bill that comes to treat it but you’re probably not gonna die. Sheesh
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 23:49 |
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CPA Hell posted:And a movie in a year or so. Don’t forget the movie. It should have a title like “A Cruise to Nowhere” or “Sailing to Quarantine” something like that. From Sea to Shining nCoV
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 23:50 |
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Chrs posted:I know it’s a ridiculous amount but much does a night in hospital cost you guys roughly? In the UK at the moment, it's roughly gently caress all God knows how much after we get reamed by the yanks... er... our american buddies.
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QuarkJets posted:I read a new research paper suggesting that there's a 70% chance that this new coronavirus seals you up behind a wall in your wine cellar The messed up part is that it won't even tell you why its doing it.
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# ? Feb 10, 2020 23:57 |