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DeadFatDuckFat posted:So do you risk the buffet on the cruise? If so, how many times? Probably gonna skip that, I usually only hit it once anyways. Too many other options
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Speaking as a fat, the buffet is the best part of a cruise, especially the cheap seafood and trash "sushi".
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Bronze Fonz posted:Jesus loving christ almighty, how is Bernie not your president already? Just a reminder China is offering free medical service to all coronavirus patients. China act llike a State Capitalism country 95% of the time, but when the regime survival is at stake it dust out its socialism playbook.
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The Clitoris posted:How long are your wait times? If I try to schedule with my GP I'm probably 4 - 6 weeks out for an appointment. This will net me a referral to a specialist, then depending on what needs to be done I'm waiting another 2 - 6 months for a procedure, sometimes longer. Does that sound faster then what you have? That sounds about right but everything is based on priority so if they decide your procedure can wait then you will do. A couple of years ago I had a giant lump removed from my arm but because it was benign I had to wait a year between them deciding it needed to come off and for them to actually remove it. Picture of the lump: 
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:Speaking as a fat, the buffet is the best part of a cruise, especially the cheap seafood and trash "sushi". Just thinking about eating sushi on a cruise makes me want to die.
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Chrs posted:That sounds about right but everything is based on priority so if they decide your procedure can wait then you will do. A couple of years ago I had a giant lump removed from my arm but because it was benign I had to wait a year between them deciding it needed to come off and for them to actually remove it. Was there like a little monster inside? Did the doctor show you after cutting it off?
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:So do you risk the buffet on the cruise? If so, how many times? Asking a goon whether they'll go to the buffet lol
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Chrs posted:Jesus Christ
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stephenthinkpad posted:Now, Corona Voyager Now, corona voyager, sail thou forth, to seek and find.
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The Clitoris posted:How long are your wait times? If I try to schedule with my GP I'm probably 4 - 6 weeks out for an appointment. This will net me a referral to a specialist, then depending on what needs to be done I'm waiting another 2 - 6 months for a procedure, sometimes longer. Does that sound faster then what you have? It’s all over the place. People without insurance going to free clinics might wait all day and never get seen and just have to try another day or go the the emergency room and be seen eventually but run up a huge bill. If you have insurance and a general practitioner and are sick it might be the same day or next day, or it might be a couple of weeks. To see a specialist can be a week or two or 2-3 months. Maybe longer. A lot depends on the current demand in your area and availability of whomever you normally see and what specialist they refer you to. This is all totally anecdotal from the experiences of myself, friends and family. Others may have vastly different experiences.
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I have a choice of plans for my access to healthcare Gold - Ok healthcare you can't afford Silver - Don't get sick Bronze - Get hosed
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The Clitoris posted:How long are your wait times? If I try to schedule with my GP I'm probably 4 - 6 weeks out for an appointment. This will net me a referral to a specialist, then depending on what needs to be done I'm waiting another 2 - 6 months for a procedure, sometimes longer. Does that sound faster then what you have? Yeah people in the US are always like "well people in Canada and the UK need to wait to see their doctor" Motherfucker if I want to see my doctor I need to book at least 2-4 weeks out and I'll still be sitting in the waiting room for 3 hours despite showing up on time, and that's with the good insurance. I'm sure the Canadians have emergency rooms, they just don't double as Bankruptcy Declaration Stations
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:It’s not all like that. With our Blue Cross insurance, a night in the hospital (including ICU) is a flat $175. On an extended stay, the charge is capped at five nights, so $875 max. Surgeons and a few other things have additional co-pays. This is more like my insurance. The premium is about $750 a month for myself and my kid. I am my own employer, so there’s no employer paid portion of the premium for me, I eat the full cost. But it is a good plan. Other plans pay much less in benefits, but the premiums are cheaper. They get about $9k a year form me before I pay a single copay.
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah people in the US are always like "well people in Canada and the UK need to wait to see their doctor" Existence in general seems like a real loving raw deal. Whose loving idea was this? Fess up. We could all just not be. loving hell.
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The Clitoris posted:How long are your wait times? If I try to schedule with my GP I'm probably 4 - 6 weeks out for an appointment. This will net me a referral to a specialist, then depending on what needs to be done I'm waiting another 2 - 6 months for a procedure, sometimes longer. Does that sound faster then what you have? I would gladly take these wait times and not have the loving insane costs. I would pay a $30 copay for each appointment and then depending on the specialist and if they are in network the day my appointment is scheduled I may have to cough up 10% of the cost up to my yearly out of pocket maximum of $6,000. If they are out of network on the day of my appointment and I don’t get told I’ll pay 20% out of pocket until my out of pocket maximum is met for the year. This is considered “good” insurance in the US. Yes doctors can be in network and out the next if they don’t keep their paperwork up with the insurance companies. I found out the hard way when my expected bill ended up being $540 more as he was not in network until the day after my appointment. But the up side is I was able to get an appointment in less that a month. No it was not worth the extra money I had to pay for that privilege.
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I was seriously sick last year for first time in my life so I bought a gold plan from Kaiser Permanente starting this January 1st. 25 percent of my total take home pay for that alone. I have had face to face time with a doctor for maybe 10 minutes from 3 total visits, and she was typing into computer screen during all of it. Do I want Xanax? They will give me Xanax. No loving thank you. Like, the one mistake I haven't made in my life is pills. 
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doctorfrog posted:I have a choice of plans for my access to healthcare Yeah, this is about right.
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sincx posted:If Burt's ship gets quarantined can we rename him Burt Sickual Good news! I bought full internet access so I can live stream it when necessary
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Sarah Problem posted:I would gladly take these wait times and not have the loving insane costs. I would pay a $30 copay for each appointment and then depending on the specialist and if they are in network the day my appointment is scheduled I may have to cough up 10% of the cost up to my yearly out of pocket maximum of $6,000. If they are out of network on the day of my appointment and I don’t get told I’ll pay 20% out of pocket until my out of pocket maximum is met for the year. This is considered “good” insurance in the US. Yes doctors can be in network and out the next if they don’t keep their paperwork up with the insurance companies. I found out the hard way when my expected bill ended up being $540 more as he was not in network until the day after my appointment. These numbers aren’t including the $7,500 a year I pay for the access to this amazing plan.
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Family plan $1200/month, $6500 I pay before it kicks in w the copays. This is the best a Fortune 500 company offers. Lol
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I almost pooped myself to death and my GP didn't want to send me to a specialist because she thought the insurance would drop me if I had a pre-existing condition. I didn't have insurance after that and still poop weird and I don't want to have a colostomy bag for my 32nd birthday. I was ~25 when this happened. Welcome to America. I can't tell if my butt and poop works the right way. I'm not walking into a clinic for a cough. Edit: I did make mayo and I got my first av out of it 
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah people in the US are always like "well people in Canada and the UK need to wait to see their doctor" Here (Quebec) if you have a family doctor you don't really wait much if at all. As for ER it was less than an hour from arrival to walking out with my stitches when I opened up my leg 2 years ago... had 7cm long stretch of leg exposed to the bone. Pretty good experience overall, despite the exposed bone and all. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a family doctor but it's certainly nothing like what it's made out to be. It only cost me the taxi ride to the nearest hospital, about 6-7$.
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Bronze Fonz posted:Here (Quebec) if you have a family doctor you don't really wait much if at all. As for ER it was less than an hour from arrival to walking out with my stitches when I opened up my leg 2 years ago... had 7cm long stretch of leg exposed to the bone. Pretty good experience overall, despite the exposed bone and all. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a family doctor but it's certainly nothing like what it's made out to be. It only cost me the taxi ride to the nearest hospital, about 6-7$. To be fair something like that is going to be treated no matter where you are in the western world at least immediately, because it's immediately life-threatening. Of course the costs afterwards are a whole different matter.
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Burt Sexual posted:Good news! I bought full internet access so I can live stream it when necessary Buy a bunch of cheap first aid kits and put labels on them that say 'NoCv2019 prevention kit'. Put some masks in there. Have them ready to sell for $1000.
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this will almost certainly overwhelm any first world country's health care system if Wuhan gets widespread. definitely a lesser system like the USA.
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The one time I had to have surgery I went to my family doctor who charged me $30 because the fucker doesn't bulk bill (which means it would have been free), to refer me to a specialist. Saw the specialist a few weeks later who confirmed i needed surgery but it wasn't urgent so I was booked in for a few months later. I went in, the staff was really good and the nurses awesome. Had the surgery and they wheeled me out high as a loving kite that day. Had to go back to my family doctor for some extra painkillers for post surgery pain so that was another $30 plus pill cost. Total cost easily under $100. From specialist to post surgery, not once was the ugly subject of money brought up by anybody, and when I asked after the specialist appointment they just laughed.
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Oh last year I had 4 wisdom teeth removed at a private hospital by a maxiofacial surgeon. I had no insurance so the hospital stay, plus surgeon plus anaesthesia cost like, $2.5k Australian. Still a bargain because I had zero swelling or pain at all. loving amazing and worth the money. That said, loving with public health services is probably the one thing that would motivate me to no poo poo riot.
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Bronze Fonz posted:Here (Quebec) if you have a family doctor you don't really wait much if at all. As for ER it was less than an hour from arrival to walking out with my stitches when I opened up my leg 2 years ago... had 7cm long stretch of leg exposed to the bone. Pretty good experience overall, despite the exposed bone and all. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a family doctor but it's certainly nothing like what it's made out to be. It only cost me the taxi ride to the nearest hospital, about 6-7$. Unfortunately that's not that typical anymore, at least in a lot of Ontario. Wait times in a lot of the emerg departments in Toronto and the GTA can get pretty ridiculous, especially if you actually need to be admitted. Like we're talking days to get moved from some emerg bed (that may be in an ad-hoc overflow area) to a ward. A big problem is nowadays there's a hell of a lot of old people that can't be discharged because there's no long term care spots to take them (the wait lists for LTC can be over a year depending on how critical you are) and they're not medically fit enough to just release them into the care of family members (if that's even an option), even if they don't need the full care of a hospital. So they're just kind of stuck there. Like once you get in, it's great and 98% free. But there's a huge loving bottleneck right now and it's only going to get worse as the boomers age. Fortunately a couple years ago we voted in a ghoulish Conservative government whose solution to this has been to quietly cut hospital funding while loudly proclaiming that they're "ending hallway medicine" 
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not sure how else to describe that every other metric had some variation in the day-to-day delta and only for the deaths it is increasing monotonically
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arcgis is saying there's a 13th infection in the US but i can't find any articles on whether it's someone who's been to china
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Can we change the thread title tagline? Wuhan clan one was better
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Two years ago my GP switched from the standard American model to a VIP service. He cut his patient list down from ~3500 to ~800 and charges $1,600/yr paid quarterly to be a "member". If you can afford it this means you can always get a sameday appointment, he will sit with you for 1.5 hours no problem if needed, can be contacted 24/7 via an app, and has no problem writing you a script at 9pm on a weekend night. Visits are billed normally to insurance if in network. I was having some health problems and my job pays my insurance so I did it for a while due to my issues. It was everything healthcare should be and it is loving criminal that this isn't just the standard of care for everybody in the richest country in history.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:arcgis is saying there's a 13th infection in the US but i can't find any articles on whether it's someone who's been to china They're adding Burt in advance Actual answer: https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1227055101686226944
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uvar posted:They're adding Burt in advance alright we're still good then
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