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Ice Phisherman posted:I'm of two minds on this. I do agree that home ownership in a market where capital is investing in homes in order to extract wealth is a bad idea. But I've seen how changing zoning laws at the federal level like what got done in Japan worked for them. If every suburban homeowner rented their house instead, they would more accurately perceive their class interests, rather than seeing themselves as petty lords. They’d also have no incentive to block the construction of new housing, and would be much more supportive of things like nationwide rent control. Plus a crash in housing values would only affect the corporations that owned them, rather than wiping out ordinary people’s life savings. I agree with the Japan example. Housing should be treated like a long term consumer good, something you buy because you need it, like a car. We should be subsidizing other more socially useful means of wealth creation for the middle class instead, like selling government bonds that could also be used to fund infrastructure projects. Polybius91 posted:On the plus side, it will hopefully radicalize more millennials and zoomers as we grow up because none of us can afford homes and so we're not tied up in the homeowner mentality. It’s already happening. Look at the most recent Irish elections. Failure to build enough housing was probably why a lot of young people voted for the left wing party. Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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spouse posted:As long as we get our own version of Sargon of Akkad running for office. it's what ended up happening to the scandinavian social-democratic parties. the labour movements lost control and suddenly there were petes everywhere, gnawing on all the wiring
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spouse posted:Me, explaining to a crowd at a city hall debate about why it's perfectly legitimate to donate money on patreon to rule 34 artists and that I should be seen as a patron of the arts, as the website's name implies. Whatever, kinkshaming is the bedfellow of queershaming and sexshaming. Tell em to shove it. As long as it’s not evil, the heart wants what it wants.
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spouse posted:As long as we get our own version of Sargon of Akkad running for office. Jordan Peterson is currently dying in a Russian hospital. edit: gently caress he's canadian isn't he
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Is that from his all beef diet? i think it's from the drugs to which he was hopelessly addicted, though i'm sure the diet didn't help
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Benzo addiction, complicated by his all beef diet.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Is that from his all beef diet? The only reason his daughter is not dying is that she wasn’t stupid enough to actually partake of her own grift.
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Vermin Supreme spotted! https://twitter.com/people4bernie/status/1227042153051738112?s=21
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V. Illych L. posted:AOC has obama-level charisma and is a true godsend for the left. a generational talent Presidential talent? 
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https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1227042472628510720 Edit: Mayor Cheat really going full press for the Boomer vote. https://twitter.com/carolinerkenny/status/1227049546418720769 Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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This seems like it could actually gently caress Bernie over?
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Mahoning posted:Vermin Supreme spotted! Apparently he won the Libertarian primary in NH last month Imagine following the Libertarian primary so closely and editing the Wikipedia for it to such detail
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John Wick of Dogs posted:This seems like it could actually gently caress Bernie over?
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John Wick of Dogs posted:This seems like it could actually gently caress Bernie over? Actually, Bernie voters are young and energized. If it fucks anyone, it will probably be elderly centrists who really aren’t invested in any one candidate. “What? The street’s closed? I have to walk an extra 7 blocks to vote? But there’s no ramp on that side! Well, who really cares. I’m just gonna vote for whichever nice person ends up winning.” Unfortunately, it also really hurts disabled voters.
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gandlethorpe posted:Apparently he won the Libertarian primary in NH last month I last met up with Vermin in July last year, at Rainbow Nationals in Wisconsin. He told me he was going to pursue the libertarian party nomination, laid out some math that made it seem perfectly achievable, we talked a bit about whether he'd do a 'colbert turn' and run authentically, or preserve his clown persona. His personal views are basically all summed up with the words 'Mutual Aid.' e: in the overton window at the time was Trump accepting help from foreign entities, which Trump was arguing is perfectly fine (and the DOJ was clearly going along with it), so I asked Vermin if he's ever been approached, he said no, I asked if he'd accept it, I think we arrived upon 'why the hell not at this point?' We had a jolly laugh. Uglycat fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Actually, Bernie voters are young and energized. If it fucks anyone, it will probably be elderly centrists who really aren’t invested in any one candidate. old people vote. a lot. when they die, it will be with a badly in their hand
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Weird BIAS posted:Benzo addiction, complicated by his all beef diet. Benzo addiction that he didn’t want to treat like a normal person, so he went to Russia because every US doctor refused the procedure he wanted (being put in a medically induced coma, so he could “fast-forward” through the withdrawal process). Now he is handicapped for life and can’t speak. And this is the guy that the alt-right turn to for guidance on self-improvement...
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Unfortunately, it also really hurts disabled voters. They can/should vote absentee. Anyone who can vote absentee should. New Hampshire limits who is able to, but the disabled is one of those classes.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Actually, Bernie voters are young and energized. If it fucks anyone, it will probably be elderly centrists who really aren’t invested in any one candidate. My observation, as someone who lives in a retirement community, is that nothing can stand in the way of seniors voting. But I can see minor inconveniences stopping Gen-Xers from voting.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Presidential talent?
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If you're disabled and don't vote absentee... well, why? It's specifically to make your life easier.
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My entire TL is dunking on Pete tonight, seems like: https://twitter.com/proustmalone/status/1227007500119150592
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TyrantWD posted:Benzo addiction that he didn’t want to treat like a normal person, so he went to Russia because every US doctor refused the procedure he wanted (being put in a medically induced coma, so he could “fast-forward” through the withdrawal process). Now he is handicapped for life and can’t speak. wait seriously? is he brain dead now?
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TyrantWD posted:Benzo addiction that he didn’t want to treat like a normal person, so he went to Russia because every US doctor refused the procedure he wanted (being put in a medically induced coma, so he could “fast-forward” through the withdrawal process). Now he is handicapped for life and can’t speak. What? ...What?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wait seriously? is he brain dead now? it's not really clear since his huckster daughter is the only person giving any info
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Trump will do something like this in Wisconsin in November. It's going to be an extremely dirty election and people need to prepare for it. Oh and yeah, Trump will absolutely weaponize the DoJ against Jane Sanders.
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kidkissinger posted:it's not really clear since his huckster daughter is the only person giving any info what is she saying? could she be faking the whole thing and he will just appear "cured".
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John Wick of Dogs posted:This seems like it could actually gently caress Bernie over? Maybe. It seems like it would piss people off though as well.
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Mat Cauthon posted:My entire TL is dunking on Pete tonight, seems like: Wowsers. Also, healthcare is a reach but yeah totally just gonna pass a constitutional amendment to take money out of politics
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TyrantWD posted:Benzo addiction that he didn’t want to treat like a normal person, so he went to Russia because every US doctor refused the procedure he wanted (being put in a medically induced coma, so he could “fast-forward” through the withdrawal process). Now he is handicapped for life and can’t speak. gently caress I forgot about that part. Yeah he was in a coma for 8 days or something. It's all just loving stupid wild.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Actually, Bernie voters are young and energized. If it fucks anyone, it will probably be elderly centrists who really aren’t invested in any one candidate. Young and energized, but also poorer and with Jess time to spare
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Dapper_Swindler posted:didnt he finish it a few hours ago? Yeah, that rally was today, happening parallel to the Bernie events drawing massive lines.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:didnt he finish it a few hours ago? Are we all just arzying for no good reason now?
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Hey folks a Trump rally Monday won't hurt voter turnout on Tuesday.Grouchio posted:Yeah it seems like he did: "tried to rattle Democrats on Monday with a rally" Pretty much what this thread will be for the next several months.
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Office Pig posted:This seems poorly thought out. These people are idiots. Almost no one lives in the areas they shut down. There’s a hotel, the arena, and some commercial buildings with a handful of apartments on top.
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TyrantWD posted:Benzo addiction that he didn’t want to treat like a normal person, so he went to Russia because every US doctor refused the procedure he wanted (being put in a medically induced coma, so he could “fast-forward” through the withdrawal process). Now he is handicapped for life and can’t speak. Do you have a source for that? I believe the russia medicine thing, I've seen stories on that... but the rest of it... what the gently caress?
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