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morcant posted:gently caress this is even worse! Yeah, but then Eri, Shinso, and Deku team up to save him and restore him to normal, along with Shirakumo(who will look like he used to, except with shadowy Kurogiri hair)
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Rhonne posted:Yeah, but then Eri, Shinso, and Deku team up to save him and restore him to normal, along with Shirakumo(who will look like he used to, except with shadowy Kurogiri hair) Well... Okay, fine 
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Eej posted:My two favourite adults in this manga are going to die: Hawks and Mirko, and it sucks. I think the power of horny might protect Miruko but Hawks is most definitely getting out-loving-played and he's gonna get turned into fried chicken for it
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SKULL.GIF posted:Does he really have plot armor, though? His quirk is a big problem for every fight Hori wants to do, he has to come up with a way to have Aizawa be out of the way or to knock him out of the fight beforehand. Losing Erasure also makes the Eri situation much more urgently needed to be dealt with. The problem is again- it's Shigaraki. If his primary quirk is powered up (like he gets a disintegration aura and doesn't need to even touch people anymore) that doesn't really leave much for Eri to work with. I'm guessing Shigaraki is going to be a more complete version of Nine and be decked out with "more powerful" quirks that also coincidentally happen to not be ones that give you the problem of basically being unsurvivable unless cancelled in the act- so he can massively own the poo poo of everyone without you having to commit to everyone being literally reduced to dust.
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Also remember that Shigaraki isn't ready yet. Even if he is let out and starts killing people, he probably won't last long before he starts loving himself up too(but will probably give the doctor enough time to call reinforcements/escape)
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Honestly, I assume his new quirks won't be crazy new ranged attacks and elemental attacks-I assume they'll just be generally nice ones like one that lets him move faster, something defensive, maybe a flight or floating or something quirk, and that's it.Fabricated posted:a more complete version of Nine If it's not too much to ask, what Quirks did Nine have?
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When that nurse tried to stop the heroes, I thought the actual set up was going to be that the lab was somewhere else and the heroes would have no evidence against the doctor and look like a bunch of assholes attacking an innocent old man, while at the same time another group of heroes attack a group of "legitimate businessmen" who where just enjoying a nice vacation at a hotel resort. Then the nomu attacked, so that idea went out the window.
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Junpei posted:Honestly, I assume his new quirks won't be crazy new ranged attacks and elemental attacks-I assume they'll just be generally nice ones like one that lets him move faster, something defensive, maybe a flight or floating or something quirk, and that's it. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 01:56
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I fully expect Shigaraki to get Force Lightning as a Quirk.
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Feb 11, 2020 02:23
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Shigaraki is going to get mineta's quirk. After he deploys the grape rush technique his victims will be powerless to flee against his disintegration. Truly terrifying.
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tweet my meat posted:Shigaraki is going to get mineta's quirk. After he deploys the grape rush technique his victims will be powerless to flee against his disintegration. Truly terrifying. ...now that you mention it, Mineta's Quirk is actually a pretty hard counter to Shigaraki's on paper. If Mineta stuck the balls purely to Shigaraki's back and made him fall onto them, he wouldn't be able to move or touch them to get rid of them.
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Junpei posted:...now that you mention it, Mineta's Quirk is actually a pretty hard counter to Shigaraki's on paper. If Mineta stuck the balls purely to Shigaraki's back and made him fall onto them, he wouldn't be able to move or touch them to get rid of them. He'd have to somehow pin Shigaraki's arms where he couldn't touch anything too, because the disintegration spreading would eventually reach the grapes and destroy them otherwise. Like, back of Shigaraki's hands, and a surface behind him, that could work. If it's just his back and he can move his arms around, though, well. But yeah. Mirko is in a very, very bad place, because if Shigaraki gets woken up, then the chances of someone dying skyrocket, and there's no way he's being subdued while still asleep.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Mirko is still being a team player, her assigned role is speeding ahead of the others to corner the villain before he can escape, and she clearly knew exactly where to go when she went straight through the morgue like a bettering ram. Although being fair, it's obvious she got that job because she wouldn't put up with hanging around in the foyer with everyone else. Also as she bursts into the lab there's other heroes preparing to follow her so she's rushing ahead to clear the way and alert the others about what's she's finding/passing Playing to her strengths as a solo hero to be a team player! Rhonne posted:When that nurse tried to stop the heroes, I thought the actual set up was going to be that the lab was somewhere else and the heroes would have no evidence against the doctor and look like a bunch of assholes attacking an innocent old man, while at the same time another group of heroes attack a group of "legitimate businessmen" who where just enjoying a nice vacation at a hotel resort. Same, as all the heroes were preparing for the raid the idea kept crossing my mind so it was kind of nice that no it's the real thing and when the shoe drops its going to be shigaraki or some high ends or what have you.
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Are all Noumu enhanced with just basic Strong/Tough/Big/(Optional wings) Quirks, or could they have elemental or whatever abilities, theoretically?
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Junpei posted:Are all Noumu enhanced with just basic Strong/Tough/Big/(Optional wings) Quirks, or could they have elemental or whatever abilities, theoretically? High Spec (special) > (huge power gap) > Black/Purplish >>> Blue >> Pale blue The Noumu that All Might fought way back at USJ was probably on the upper end of the curve for the purplish-black ones. A lesser black one pretty much kicks the poo poo out of a bunch of local heroes with relative impunity during the riot that Shigaraki causes over Stain until Endeavor shows up and murks it. The blue ones seem to fight on par with average pros or slightly better. White ones are fodder basically. High Specs we only got one sample of- and an apparently incomplete one nearly killed Endeavor and pushed Hawks to his limits in rescuing people while dropping a bunch of white noumu that kept the regular pros busy. It also leveled practically a city block. Incidentally, there's like 8-10 of them chilling in the next room where all this is going down. Gigantomachia is implied to be in a league of his own even compared to High Specs, and he's probably at the other location. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 05:07
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shigaraki is going to do a thanos snap it's RIGHT THERE
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tweet my meat posted:Shigaraki is going to get mineta's quirk. After he deploys the grape rush technique his victims will be powerless to flee against his disintegration. Truly terrifying. Mineta's quirk on a villain is absolutely frightening, for most people it's inescapable. E: Remember how Stain needed to knife people to incapacitate them? Mineta can render people immobile at range, turn his quirk into a literal minefield that only he's immune to and up close he could tag someone and if they touch anything else they're likely out as a combatant. Mineta reeeally close to soloed one of the teachers during the exams based off his quirk, it's insanely dangerous, he's just an idiot TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:Mineta's quirk on a villain is absolutely frightening, for most people it's inescapable. Oh, he's not an idiot, either. He's just incredibly lazy. As soon as he actually puts some thought into how to apply himself, he's pretty dangerous. It's just... normally he doesn't.
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I'm starting to buy into the theory that the doctor stole Deku's quirck at a young age and made up the fact about toes.
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Mordaedil posted:I'm starting to buy into the theory that the doctor stole Deku's quirck at a young age and made up the fact about toes. The thing is, that theory would require that a desperate parent would never go to another specialist and bring up his blatantly false suggestion. If the toe thing is false, then even a relatively dumb kid, let alone a parent, would pick up that something's sketchy. It's a remarkably dumb move, with little in the way of payout.
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Besides stealing Deku's quirck? I think you overestimate parents' need to seek out other professionals besides the one they've met. Also we literally live in a time with anti-vaxers, this isn't stretching any reasonable disbelief.
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Mordaedil posted:Besides stealing Deku's quirck? I think you overestimate parents' need to seek out other professionals besides the one they've met. You're saying that there's nothing unreasonable about someone whose life depends on not drawing attention putting so little effort into his lies that five minutes on future-google would blow them wide open. If the toe thing is made up, it's a lie with no benefit, and absurd risk. It also assumes that Izuku Midoriya, the biggest hero nerd alive, whose whole future was determined by his quirklessness, would never bother to look up if there was a way the doctor was wrong. It also assumes that he never brought up the toe thing when talking with the school nurse, despite spending more time around Recovery Girl than any other three students put together.
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chiasaur11 posted:You're saying that there's nothing unreasonable about someone whose life depends on not drawing attention putting so little effort into his lies that five minutes on future-google would blow them wide open. Personally, I don't subscribe to that theory because I feel like it undermines the whole "deku has no power but was the most heroic of the crowd" thing to some minor degree, but to be fair to it - I don't think too many doctors after joining UA have looked at his feet in great detail. It's his hands that kept getting hosed up, he hasn't broken his legs yet from what I recall, and since other quirkless people do exist (however rare they might be these days) Deku probably doesn't feel like he has to just explain the toe thing to anyone, let alone other doctors.
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It would be ridiculous for it to be a straight up lie that could be seen through as easily as just double checking on the Internet, but this guy has apparently been around for a long time. It could easily be that he and All for One basically engineered the whole toe thing and the theory originated as a cover to steal quirks.
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I don't think "Deku quirckless" is the story we're being told here, otherwise Deku would be gadget user kinda guy, he was handed the strongest quirck because he showed great bravery despite having no quirck and whether he had no quirck at birth or whether it was stolen from him without his consent, I don't think the story is weakened at all, actually. He had no quirck at the time and still ran in bravely and nothing can really retract that retroactively.
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Mordaedil posted:I don't think "Deku quirckless" is the story we're being told here, otherwise Deku would be gadget user kinda guy, he was handed the strongest quirck because he showed great bravery despite having no quirck and whether he had no quirck at birth or whether it was stolen from him without his consent, I don't think the story is weakened at all, actually. So, your deep and well considered argument for Deku formerly having a quirk is... that he isn't using gadgets. When at a hero school. Where people learn how to use their inborn superpowers. One of the bonds between Deku and ALL MIGHT is that they were both quirkless. There's no point to saying he used to have powers as far as I can see on a thematic level, and making him IMPORTANT prior to All Might choosing him makes him less interesting, not more.
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Yeah, I think a reveal where Deku had some low-level quirk like minor telekinesis or fire breath stolen as a child doesn't really add anything to the story, but it does take away from some existing thematic elements: namely, the parallel between Izuku and All Might both being quirkless. I think it also doesn't track because there's no reason All For One (or his lackeys) would be interested in something as minor as either of Izuku's parents' quirks
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Feb 11, 2020 13:59
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I forget, is his mom’s Quirk just limited to small objects? Because otherwise I could possibly see telekinesis being somewhat useful at least.
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Feb 11, 2020 14:06
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It's not even really telekinesis. It's more like a minor gravitational pull, since she can draw small objects towards herself and that's all.
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It was specifically magnesis I think.
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Mordaedil posted:Besides stealing Deku's quirck? I think you overestimate parents' need to seek out other professionals besides the one they've met. Did you just imply that Inko is anti-vaxxer
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I think what that poster is trying to say is that Deku being quirkless growing up was a matter of fact, regardless of whether it was natural or if his quirk was stolen. The reason that he’s impressive is because he still jumps in to save Bakugou without a quirk, knowing the risks. Also, if anything I’d be interested in Deku’s reaction if he found out that the doctor stole his quirk and lied, essentially damning him to a life of abuse at the hands of people that think his inferior.
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I could see a scenario where he finds out he did have a quirk stolen away, and not really thinking about it. Not having a quirk was terrible for him, but with it he would probably not have met All Might. That kind of thing, basically just a way of reminding what he has been through and where he is, maybe throw in some throwaway gags at what hed do with the quirk, then move on without worrying about it anymore. That said I could still see it just being the truth because taking a quirk away probably is an ordeal no matter the age . all the examples have looked painful and draining.
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I doubt the toe theory is a lie, but the doctor could have easily just shown a fake or altered x-ray. Considering he owns hospitals all over the country, it probably wouldn't be hard to make sure no one ever double checked. Plus, who would question the diagnosis of someone so respected?
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Feb 11, 2020 15:13
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It would be weird if Melissa is actually the only quirkless person we've met
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chiasaur11 posted:So, your deep and well considered argument for Deku formerly having a quirk is... that he isn't using gadgets. When at a hero school. Where people learn how to use their inborn superpowers. There's an entire class devoted to inventing gadgets, so yeah. But I think if that was the goal, the story would have been written to accommodate that he relies on gadgets, not the other way around. Also I'm not sure I see the big deal them both having to always have been quirkless. All might was handed his power down as well and it functionally just means that they both have quirks now. On a thematic level there is really no difference to me, whether he was born quirkless or had it robbed from him and it was inserted into a Nomu. Though such a scenario would be ultimately kinda bad and boring. Ultimately this is just speculation and a theory on things that might be revealed. Didn't expect I needed to defend it as if my life depended upon it.
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Mordaedil posted:Though such a scenario would be ultimately kinda bad and boring. Deku's Former Quirk was minor: why bother? what does this add? if it was stolen, why even take it? Deku's Former Quirk was major: oh the underdog was actually super powerful from birth, he just didn't know until later, so we Naruto now
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:It's this. The problem is that it's bad no matter which way it falls. Eh, Naruto being super powerful (because of the Fox) was a thing forever, the rest of the issues showed up later.
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