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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Every time I see Jennifer Aniston in a new movie I have to wonder if she just genuinely loves acting or if she is being horrendously blackmailed by someone. That's why I don't have much respect for Tom Cruise or Jackie Chan and their whole "I do my own stunts" macho bullshit. Even with all their handlers protecting them, they're still gambling with other people's money just so their personas get a PR boost.
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Skwirl posted:Athletes and Actors are pretty much the only rich people who earn their money. Maybe it’s more accurate to say they exploit the least amount of people getting rich?
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Dr Christmas posted:Maybe it’s more accurate to say they exploit the least amount of people getting rich? That's fair. Edit: I still think athletes absolutely earn their money, and the major problem with sports is the non top performing athletes making poo poo while management makes insane amounts of money. Air Skwirl has a new favorite as of 04:04 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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New actors maybe, but all these celebrities are investing their money into things and are capitalists in their own right, and can in many ways dictate what portion of the studio's budget will belong to them alone, undercutting most of the other people in the production, since they own a resource (their likeness and name) that can't be easily cut or replaced. Steve Jobs did start his career as a technician, but by the end of his life he was a capitalist. It's the same thing. Athletes straight up are exploited, they destroy their bodies so the people above them can make absurd amounts of money. Beelzebufo has a new favorite as of 04:48 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 04:43
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No matter how much an athlete or actor makes, there's some bigger, worse capitalist making more money than they are off of their labour.
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https://twitter.com/NylaRoseBeast/status/1106367004305432576
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Skwirl posted:Rich athletes are rich because they can do things no other human can do, rich actors are rich because people want to see them in a movie, any movie. And those are literally the only two fields where that can be. Literally the only two. Like... what about authors? Artists? Dr Christmas posted:Maybe it’s more accurate to say they exploit the least amount of people getting rich? This isn't really true either. Actors don't exist on their own. An actor you see onscreen is the result of scriptwriters, costume designers, hairstylists, directors, choreographers, stuntpeople, training, editors, etc, etc. An actor gets paid more because they are the face on the screen but they don't necessarily put in more work than anyone else on the film. (For certain stunt-heavy movies they probably put in significantly less work than the stunt people and CGI production teams.) ImpAtom has a new favorite as of 06:52 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 06:48
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ImpAtom posted:And those are literally the only two fields where that can be. Literally the only two. I'd include both of those under athletes. They do work in heavy sprints with lots of time off in between but their value only lasts as long as they produce wins.
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Untrustable posted:Trying to figure out how to make this my ringtone. Absolutely stunning. Listened to his album 'Europe'. on my way home today and it's all so good. What type of phone do you have?
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Push El Burrito posted:I was hoping it would twist that there wasn't enough teabagging. There's never enough teabagging in video games. I really loved teabagging in Overwatch.
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Feb 11, 2020 10:32
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Skwirl posted:Athletes and Actors are pretty much the only rich people who earn their money. What about Paul McCartney
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mind the walrus posted:That's why I don't have much respect for Tom Cruise or Jackie Chan and their whole "I do my own stunts" macho bullshit. Even with all their handlers protecting them, they're still gambling with other people's money just so their personas get a PR boost. Why not include Keanu Reeves in that?
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mind the walrus posted:I'd bet on lifestyle-bloat, in absence of other more compelling evidence (not that I care to gossip). Once you're a star it's not just your own finances, it's your kid's and your parents and your friends-turned-assistants and your dietitian and your agent and your so on until "Jennifer Aniston" is basically a catch-all term for a cottage industry of like 5,000 people worldwide whose entire livelihood rely on what this one woman chooses to star in. Is this a parody post or is this a thing that people actually believe E: changed Americans to people Son of Rodney has a new favorite as of 14:12 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 14:05
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Son of Rodney posted:Is this a parody post or is this a thing that Americans actually believe Why on earth would you try to pin that on Americans?
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Why on earth would you try to pin that on Americans? Good point, propably my preconception that Americans are more capitalist minded or something. Changed it.
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Feb 11, 2020 14:13
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Platystemon posted:Why not include Keanu Reeves in that? I think the big difference with Reeves is that he's stated before that he doesn't do his own stunts, but he does perform his own fight scenes. Also, he doesn't really flaunt it around. There's nothing like the MI movies that have entire segments of their marketing campaigns centered around Tom Cruise jumping out of planes and poo poo. Also from what I've heard Reeves these days takes the lowest amount of money possible for staring in a movie, which is still like a million dollars, but to compare you've got assholes out there who command 20 million dollar per movie salaries for some god drat reason.
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Feb 11, 2020 14:20
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I think the big difference with Reeves is that he's stated before that he doesn't do his own stunts, but he does perform his own fight scenes. Also, he doesn't really flaunt it around. There's nothing like the MI movies that have entire segments of their marketing campaigns centered around Tom Cruise jumping out of planes and poo poo. Also from what I've heard Reeves these days takes the lowest amount of money possible for staring in a movie, which is still like a million dollars, but to compare you've got assholes out there who command 20 million dollar per movie salaries for some god drat reason. Because rear end in a top hat studios are making hundreds of millions of dollars off of their work and Hollywood is an industry where nobody gets paid if they're not an rear end in a top hat about it. The Hollywood Economist is a really good book about it.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Also from what I've heard Reeves these days takes the lowest amount of money possible for staring in a movie, which is still like a million dollars, but to compare you've got assholes out there who command 20 million dollar per movie salaries for some god drat reason. How is that the lowest possible amount? No employer is going to say "No no, we couldn't possibly pay you any less than a million dollars!" if you insist on being paid less. And couldn't he just negotiate for the highest pay and then have it all disbursed equally among the entire cast and crew or sent straight to some worthy cause or whatever? This isn't even a criticism of whatever it is he's actually doing, I just don't know what it could possibly even mean that he's taking the lowest amount of money possible.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Also from what I've heard Reeves these days takes the lowest amount of money possible for staring in a movie, which is still like a million dollars, but to compare you've got assholes out there who command 20 million dollar per movie salaries for some god drat reason. To be fair, no one stares in a movie like Keanu Reeves.
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My favorite Hollywood accounting tweet https://twitter.com/ed_solomon/status/1139031900931198976?s=21
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Tiggum posted:How is that the lowest possible amount? No employer is going to say "No no, we couldn't possibly pay you any less than a million dollars!" if you insist on being paid less. Probably something to do with the Screen Actors Guild and pay scales
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Super Waffle posted:Probably something to do with the Screen Actors Guild and pay scales SAG minimums are like $1000 a day (more for stunts but you get the point) e. I guess not more for stunts but it doesn't really matter. Less on a weekly basis. I highly doubt Keanu Reeves works for the SAG weekly minimum. If anything he's known for giving his salary to production crew. Phil Moscowitz has a new favorite as of 15:22 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Feb 11, 2020 15:02
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Vincent posted:What type of phone do you have? Nokia 6.1 running Android 10. I figure if there's a YouTube video I can rip it from there and use some sketchy app to make a ringtone.
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Feb 11, 2020 15:07
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Untrustable posted:Nokia 6.1 running Android 10. I figure if there's a YouTube video I can rip it from there and use some sketchy app to make a ringtone. https://tvidder.com/ Use this URL code:
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Feb 11, 2020 15:17
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I will not just stand by and let you people deride Keanu. He is a genuinely cool and nice person. Despite how dumb as his recent gun-kata movies are I still like him.
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Feb 11, 2020 15:27
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Despite how dumb as his recent gun-kata movies are 
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Tiggum posted:How is that the lowest possible amount? No employer is going to say "No no, we couldn't possibly pay you any less than a million dollars!" if you insist on being paid less. Actors of his caliber typically have agents who handle the back end work of auditions and contracts, which means he could be contractually obligated to be paid a certain minimum for his time. He has a net worth of about $360 million but apparently lives relatively frugally and gives away tons of money and expensive gifts to people instead of hoarding it or spending it all on drugs and alcohol. He's also repeatedly taken huge pay cuts on films he believes in to help fund them.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:I will not just stand by and let you people deride Keanu. He is a genuinely cool and nice person. chitoryu12 posted:He has a net worth of about $360 million but apparently lives relatively frugally and gives away tons of money and expensive gifts to people instead of hoarding it or spending it all on drugs and alcohol. He's also repeatedly taken huge pay cuts on films he believes in to help fund them. In my head, I have a graph of 'doucheness/coolness' vs 'time' and two lines: one for Keanu and one for Johnny Depp and they are exact inverses. I just need someone to give me the dates of when they started and when they both crossed the line from 'douche' to 'dude'
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Feb 11, 2020 15:36
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Keanu wasn’t ever a douche
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Keanu wasn’t ever a douche Maybe 'douche' is too strong. Cool/uncool? There was definitely the joke that he had the acting range of a block of wood and no personality, while Depp was the cool kid. That's flipped around.
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Shut up Meg posted:Maybe 'douche' is too strong. Yeah I’m not saying anything about his acting range. I just don’t remember anyone ever thinking he was a dick to other people or otherwise an rear end in a top hat. He’s always been this guy who made it in Hollywood, has been in a couple really cool movies, and never turned obnoxious. Johnny Depp on the other hand you’re absolutely right about.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Yeah I’m not saying anything about his acting range. I just don’t remember anyone ever thinking he was a dick to other people or otherwise an rear end in a top hat. He’s always been this guy who made it in Hollywood, has been in a couple really cool movies, and never turned obnoxious. Well... https://twitter.com/redditspaces/status/1227262338090356738 zoux has a new favorite as of 17:08 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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Shut up Meg posted:Maybe 'douche' is too strong. https://observer.com/2018/09/film-crit-hulk-keanu-reeves-and-good-acting/ This article breaks down Keanu Reeves, Johnny Depp, and Nicolas Cage based on the joke on Community about "good bad acting vs. bad good acting." Long story short, Keanu was always himself and that means he'll seem off if you put him in a role that he's not suited for (like a historical drama) but he'll always provide a sense of authenticity and earnestness when he's in the right role, while Johnny Depp cottoned on to how much attention he got from Jack Sparrow and now basically acts at people, being a crazy method acting clown in everything that distracts from the rest of the cast. And Nicolas Cage just does whatever the hell he wants.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Despite how dumb as his recent gun-kata movies are I still like him. hey don't talk poo poo on the grammaton clerics man 
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