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I just got an email that Lou Zocchi's garage burned down. So that's tons of vintage dice and old wargames and whatnot.
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dwarf74 posted:I just got an email that Lou Zocchi's garage burned down. So that's tons of vintage dice and old wargames and whatnot. That sucks for him. I also wish I hadn't just read the phrase "vintage dice."
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Jan 9, 2020 15:14
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That's awful, but one more step towards me having the biggest library of old RPG poo poo anywhere. Good thing I store it here in nice, safe Southern California.
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Jan 9, 2020 20:06
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theironjef posted:Good thing I store it here in nice, safe Southern California. And all of the archival copies that I’ve stored safely on Kangaroo Island, Australia. Now I’m going to take a big swig of water before answering this phone call.
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Jan 9, 2020 20:19
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theironjef posted:That's awful, but one more step towards me having the biggest library of old RPG poo poo anywhere. Good thing I store it here in nice, safe Southern California. Ah good old reams and reams of paper sitting on wooden shelves in Southern California. What could go wrong?
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Jan 10, 2020 22:42
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dwarf74 posted:I just got an email that Lou Zocchi's garage burned down. So that's tons of vintage dice and old wargames and whatnot. That's the Library of Alexandria for wargames. Real shame.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:00
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VirtualBasement posted:Ah good old reams and reams of paper sitting on wooden shelves in Southern California. What could go wrong? My uncle lost hundreds of books and thousands upon thousands of pages of campaign/character notes when his Moreno Valley house was foreclosed in the 2008 crash. Does that count?
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Jan 10, 2020 23:04
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dwarf74 posted:I just got an email that Lou Zocchi's garage burned down. So that's tons of vintage dice and old wargames and whatnot. Am I allowed to be amused that we’ve lost records of games that tend to boil down to tons of detailed record-keeping?
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Zurui posted:My uncle lost hundreds of books and thousands upon thousands of pages of campaign/character notes when his Moreno Valley house was foreclosed in the 2008 crash. Does that count? Yes it does. 
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e: eh
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TotalCon 2017 - 100% male guests of honour TotalCon 2018 - 100% male guests of honour Totalcon 2019 - 100% male guests of honour Totalcon 2020 - 89% male guests of honour (Notorious harasser Bill Webb still an industry guest, may or may not have chaperones this year) Well it's an improvement, having 3 women as industry guests but..wow do they have a diversity problem in general, and with 7 of their 27 guests being partners in, or worked for Frog God, yeah, that's definitely sending a message about the type of convention it is and what you can expect there. https://www.totalcon.com/industry-guests.php
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PST posted:Well it's an improvement, having 3 women as industry guests but..wow do they have a diversity problem in general, and with 7 of their 27 guests being partners in, or worked for Frog God, yeah, that's definitely sending a message about the type of convention it is and what you can expect there.
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Elephant Parade posted:What's the deal with FGG?
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dwarf74 posted:It's the Bill Webb thing, if you're familiar.
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Feb 5, 2020 17:01
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Maybe don't do any business with Judges' Guild anymore, folks. https://batintheattic.blogspot.com/2020/02/concerning-judges-guild.html
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Feb 11, 2020 16:22
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Maybe don't do any business with Judges' Guild anymore, folks. Wow, such wonderful people over there at judge's guild.
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I missed this thread to the point where I was ready to get myself canceled to revive the thread. I just wish the impetus for its resurrection was not related to the con I am attending for the first time in a week. Other than steering clear of Bill Webb, anything to watch out for at TotalCon? I basically wanna play minis.
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I remember years of hearing about how loving old pulp fantasy, exactly as it was when it was published, is in no way an indicator of reactionary conservative beliefs. And then it's just a couple clicks from those guys' blogs to some insane neo-monarchist shrieking about how the Turk is going to recapture Vienna.
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Feb 11, 2020 17:03
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Maybe don't do any business with Judges' Guild anymore, folks.  I shouldn't be that surprised; nothing good comes out of Decatur.
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Exciting Jeff posted:I missed this thread to the point where I was ready to get myself canceled to revive the thread. The hotel does a horrible job of keeping the bathrooms clean. It pays to get a room if only to have a clean place to poop. Otherwise, it's a really fun con.
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… holy poo poo like holy fuckin' poo poo that's some antisemitism, how did they stay hidden for so long
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Feb 11, 2020 18:25
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I'm gonna go with "no one was looking".
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Feb 11, 2020 18:26
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Combo of "no one was looking" and "no one wanted to talk about it" is my guess. There's a lot of "I game with this person, they can't be too bad" in nerd culture, sadly.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:05
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This whole industry needs to be burnt to the ground. Seriously.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:13
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Maybe don't do any business with Judges' Guild anymore, folks. Well, if the big fat black eye I got from the CSIO Kickstarter wasn't enough to keep me from doing that...I mean...wow.
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Feb 11, 2020 19:16
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This industry still manages to be consistently slimier then electronic gaming, and electronic gaming is in the middle of a underage gambling fed stock bubble! 
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Mors Rattus posted:… That's some stormfront level poo poo there.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:01
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Holy gently caress it goes deeper
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This industry has huge problems, but I don't think the failson inheritor of a small OSR company represents the industry. I'm a lot more concerned about scandals at bigger companies that don't get a "Who? What?" response when I mention them to literally anyone I play with.
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Halloween Jack posted:This industry has huge problems, but I don't think the failson inheritor of a small OSR company represents the industry. I'm a lot more concerned about scandals at bigger companies that don't get a "Who? What?" response when I mention them to literally anyone I play with. Presently, they're a dinosaur. Apparently a nazi dinosaur.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:52
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Does/did Judge's Guild do anything particularly relevant? I looked at their wiki page, it mostly looks like their heyday was pumping out a bunch of generic licensed stuff for major games in the early mid 80s. Since 99 it seems like it's been even more minor attempts to get on the d20 wave and license their 1-2 nostalgia properties. I mean, it's still awful and I'm glad what seems like their only publishers are cutting ties. But aside from technically going back to the early days of D&D through their now deceased founder, they don't seem any different from any other fringe player, or to have done much of note for decades.
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City-State of the Invincible Overlord was a hugely influential product. The Wilderlands of High Fantasy was one of the first "campaign settings," and the eponymous book was released before World of Greyhawk and a decade before the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set. For a long time now they mostly license their IP to other people to publish.
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Early TSR was really reluctant to produce premade adventure modules (most of what they did publish were repurposed tournament adventures), so Judges Guild filled in the gap with plentiful, not-too-expensive, and cheaply-produced modules, most of which were pretty dreadful (but I still have a soft spot for Dark Tower). They stopped being important right around the mid-1980s (as TSR started to produce more material at a much higher quality level) and the company largely wound down by the late 1980s. They had a revivial in the early 2000s (as they re-released some of their classic modules for D20) and again now (re-re-releasing their classic stuff for the OSR and 5E).
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Reportedly, when someone showed Gary & Co. a copy of Wee Warriors' Palace of the Vampire Queen, they were bewildered at the notion that anyone would want to buy a premade adventure or setting for their home campaign. (TSR was writing adventures at that point, but only for tournaments.) They distributed some Wee Warriors products, but Judges Guild was the first company they actually licensed to produce product for D&D.
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Desiden posted:Does/did Judge's Guild do anything particularly relevant? I looked at their wiki page, it mostly looks like their heyday was pumping out a bunch of generic licensed stuff for major games in the early mid 80s. Since 99 it seems like it's been even more minor attempts to get on the d20 wave and license their 1-2 nostalgia properties. They are a key player in the earliest days of D&D - probably #2 next to TSR itself. Modern players won't recognize most of their stuff - CSIO, maybe; Wilderlands perhaps - but they shaped a lot of D&D's direction in the 70's and early 80's.
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Halloween Jack posted:Reportedly, when someone showed Gary & Co. a copy of Wee Warriors' Palace of the Vampire Queen, they were bewildered at the notion that anyone would want to buy a premade adventure or setting for their home campaign. (TSR was writing adventures at that point, but only for tournaments.) They distributed some Wee Warriors products, but Judges Guild was the first company they actually licensed to produce product for D&D.
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Halloween Jack posted:This industry has huge problems, but I don't think the failson inheritor of a small OSR company represents the industry. I'm a lot more concerned about scandals at bigger companies that don't get a "Who? What?" response when I mention them to literally anyone I play with. It's more that it's a constant nonstop  , is more the thing.
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FMguru posted:Yeah, Gygax and crew thought the whole point of the game was building your own world and drafting your own adventures to play through, and they were just baffled by the idea that people would want to play in someone else's world with modules that someone else put together. Which actually makes a lot of sense considering they came up through miniatures gaming (where play groups were expected to assemble their own armies and terrain and design their own scenarios and kitbash and houserule whatever ruleset they used). Gygax designed and published several minis rulesets (Tractics, Chainmail, Don't Give Up The Ship) before working on D&D. While this is true, a lot of wargaming does involve poring over history books and military manuals to duplicate uniforms, equipment, and formations from specific periods of history to create your armies, and then doing the same thing with campaigns and battles to create your maps and OOB. So it's not that logical. It's like... well, it's Gygax-logical.
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TSR was also slow to realize that there was an audience for the RPG hobby beyond people who quibble over uniforms and rank insignia of the Napoleonic wars.
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