NH: Bernie campaign devastated by pain of second victory

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Der Meister: May 12, 2001

Turdfuzz posted:

Wow we've already reached the point where we have to explain what this means. Time cums at you fast.

we need a pillowpants poll analyst

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

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# ? May 29, 2024 14:56

Star Phlatulence: Jan 14, 2006; by Cyrano4747; Bleak Gremlin

i wonder if they're considering a long term warren-klobuchar or perhaps klobuchar-warren combo

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

BioThermo: Feb 18, 2014

Lord Bernoe please let me see the vision of Nina going scorched earth in SC against Bloomberg

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

Schnorkles, it seems obvious to me that Klobuchar sucked up the Lady Vote from Warren tonight. Why am I right, and should this be allowed?

gotta admit the plot twist i didn't see coming was klobb roaring up out of nowhere

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Water Resistant posted:

He's only winning because the moderate vote is split. If that split can continue for another couple of months then he'll probably be able to get the nomination wrapped up.

But I think the moderate wing, which so far appears to be quite a lot larger than Bernie's, will consolidate around either Pete or Amy. Then he'll be in real trouble. He's only barely winning pluralities and isn't close to majorities. So yeah, Bernie fans should be Arzying at this point. But in the other hand Trump made it to the nomination thanks to a split party, so recent history is on Bernie's side.

I think the other thing is that most voters aren't that ideological and support for the "moderate" candidates is generally pretty soft. I'm sure there are plenty of voters who are specifically looking for a moderate and would not vote for a progressive in a primary, but there are a ton of other reasons people pick candidates, and it's not at all clear that moderate support would consolidate under a single moderate even if all but one of them dropped out. In fact, what little second choice polling there's been--mostly by Morning Consult--shows Bernie as a popular second choice for Biden and Warren supporters, and even some Buttigieg and Bloomberg supporters. It's not really all that clear-cut, is what I'm saying.

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:45

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1227447876411887618

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:46

tinstaach: Aug 3, 2010; MAGNetic AttITUDE

I'd like to announce that I am dropping out of the presidential race and endorsing Bernie Sanders

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:46

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1227447876411887618

it will easily beat 2008

it will probably beat 2008 adjusted for population growth as well

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:47

pancake rabbit: Feb 21, 2011

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1227453287395397633

phrasing?

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Turdfuzz: Jul 23, 2008

shirts and skins posted:

It's been twelve loving years

I mean the time in a presidential election year. I figured we'd at least make it to the general.

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:47

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Echo Chamber posted:

Elizabeth: The Last Kneebender

Comedy option: Warren is so thoroughly unwilling to endorse Bernie that she switches back to being a Republican when he wins the nomination

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:47

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Water Resistant posted:

He's only winning because the moderate vote is split. If that split can continue for another couple of months then he'll probably be able to get the nomination wrapped up.

But I think the moderate wing, which so far appears to be quite a lot larger than Bernie's, will consolidate around either Pete or Amy. Then he'll be in real trouble. He's only barely winning pluralities and isn't close to majorities. So yeah, Bernie fans should be Arzying at this point. But in the other hand Trump made it to the nomination thanks to a split party, so recent history is on Bernie's side.

bernie would likely do better with fewer candidates. its easier for him to draw policy distinctions and his are more popular.

buttigieg doing so well is, i think, more benefitting from the phenomenon of projecting onto a candidate with no discernible record. he's a non-threatening vessel carefully designed to mimic obama. if it were just him and bernie then lord berno would be able to more easily draw distinctions between them and why his are better

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:47

rudecyrus: Nov 6, 2009; fuck you trolls

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Turn the map red, bernie

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:47

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Der Meister posted:

we need a pillowpants poll analyst

i'm good at polls but not a complete moron like pillowpants i will try my best

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:48

shirts and skins: Jun 25, 2007; Good morning!

Der Meister posted:

we need a pillowpants poll analyst

https://youtu.be/Whx-0sBRks8

:obama:

God, we were so young

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Burn Zone: May 22, 2004

TheLemonOfIchabod posted:

Does Maddow like Bernie? Or tolerate him?

lmao nah she�s the succ dem queen

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:48

Star Phlatulence: Jan 14, 2006; by Cyrano4747; Bleak Gremlin

wait did i just hear that the Nevada Culinary Union owns their health insurance company or something

no that doesn't make sense nevermind

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:48

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

Harrow posted:

I think the other thing is that most voters aren't that ideological and support for the "moderate" candidates is generally pretty soft. I'm sure there are plenty of voters who are specifically looking for a moderate and would not vote for a progressive in a primary, but there are a ton of other reasons people pick candidates, and it's not at all clear that moderate support would consolidate under a single moderate even if all but one of them dropped out. In fact, what little second choice polling there's been--mostly by Morning Consult--shows Bernie as a popular second choice for Biden and Warren supporters, and even some Buttigieg and Bloomberg supporters. It's not really all that clear-cut, is what I'm saying.

People like winners. That's why the ratfucking in Iowa was such a big deal. Neither of these states means jack poo poo in terms of the nomination except as a way to get attention.

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:48

Qurnah: May 9, 2008; every treumpo you take
and every trumoe you make; Grimey Drawer

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:48

Yudo: May 15, 2003

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i wonder if they're considering a long term warren-klobuchar or perhaps klobuchar-warren combo

i doubt their egos could fit in the same room.

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:49

Yudo: May 15, 2003

Qurnah posted:

nsw that poo poo

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:49

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Mat Cauthon posted:

https://twitter.com/goodopinionhavr/status/1227440968061931527

oh god oh jesus

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:49

CharlestheHammer: Jun 26, 2011; YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

wait did i just hear that the Nevada Culinary Union owns their health insurance company or something

no that doesn't make sense nevermind

they apparently have their own clinics but I don�t know what that means

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Burn Zone: May 22, 2004

BioThermo posted:

Lord Bernoe please let me see the vision of Nina going scorched earth in SC against Bloomberg

vice president nina turner

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TheLemonOfIchabod: Aug 26, 2008

Burn Zone posted:

lmao nah she�s the succ dem queen

That�s what I figured, I just haven�t heard her blatantly trash him like Chris Matthews, Joy Reid, Morning Murder etc.

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Tetracube: Feb 12, 2014; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1227441327551500290

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NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

89%

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:49

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Schnorkles posted:

gotta admit the plot twist i didn't see coming was klobb roaring up out of nowhere

my interpretation of the results thus far is that anything resembling regional advantages is pretty much a non-factor. Klobb ate poo poo in Iowa, Warren and Biden in NH, and Bernie underperformed there as well though did well considering the state is almost entirely demon crackers making 100k+ and college educated. What's your take?

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:50

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1227454357932838912

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Tetracube: Feb 12, 2014; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

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Goast: Jul 23, 2011; by VideoGames

hi res images of pete should be illegal

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El Burbo: Oct 10, 2012

Qurnah posted:

eugh

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BIG FLUFFY DOG: Feb 16, 2011; On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

https://twitter.com/burgotastic/status/1227444914079830017?s=19

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:51

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Straight White Shark posted:

People like winners. That's why the ratfucking in Iowa was such a big deal. Neither of these states means jack poo poo in terms of the nomination except as a way to get attention.

This is also correct and it's why Pete put so much effort into winning both of these states. He didn't. Well, he gets to pretend he won Iowa and the IDP is happy to play along, but he didn't win New Hampshire. Who knows what several media cycles focusing on his "strong second" will do but I doubt they'll magically earn him any non-white support at all.

# ? Feb 12, 2020 05:51