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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
liberals going from watching harry potter movies to watching salo lol

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Phone posted:

liberals going from watching harry potter movies to watching salo lol
pokemon go to marzabotto

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Impermanent posted:

:extremely gamer voice: oh its like dark souls

T-man posted:

the dark souls of mental health is the title of my manifesto/autobiography/drug cookbook

loving lmao I died here

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

crepeface posted:

i saw screencaps and read the sypnosis in my edgy teen phase and even then i was like "no thanks."

this, but like last year

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

exmarx posted:

this, but like last year

your edgy teen phase was last year?

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

i like a couple of episodes of you can't win. is don really catholic or is that a bit

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
me looking at these reviews itt: nedm

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

freckle posted:

your edgy teen phase was last year?

im trying to watch more "important" movies

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

gh0stpinballa posted:

i like a couple of episodes of you can't win. is don really catholic or is that a bit

Everything Don has ever done is a bit. He has no fixed identity. The man is a ghost, he's irony Jason Bourne

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

gh0stpinballa posted:

i like a couple of episodes of you can't win. is don really catholic or is that a bit
he's catholic yeah

i like YCW and listen to most episodes

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crane Fist posted:

Everything Don has ever done is a bit. He has no fixed identity. The man is a ghost, he's irony Jason Bourne
no, he really is catholic, except he's the catholic patron saint of posters and trolls

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

His name isn't don either

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

he's catholic yeah

i like YCW and listen to most episodes

the pizzagate series they did was pretty informative, everyone says don is like the ur irony guy but he comes across as pretty sincere and chill on the pod. well read too.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

cool dance moves posted:

Lmao. Reminds me that Jamie and Sean from Antifada broke up (they were together before starting the show) but nobody noticed because they handled it like adults and professionals

Oh word I had no idea those guys broke up. Anyway excuse me, I'll be sprinting full tilt into those DMs

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


babyfinland

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

no, he really is catholic, except he's the catholic patron saint of posters and trolls

That's the same thing!!!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The whole :decorum: environment is designed to excuse the atrocities of the ruling class by making it impossible to discuss them, let alone put them into context

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

gh0stpinballa posted:

i like a couple of episodes of you can't win. is don really catholic or is that a bit

Both I think

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Anyhow I think of I want to make myself miserable watching fascist atrocities I can just watch Come and See

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
taking a short break from salo to say that this film is unrelentingly brutal and entirely unenjoyable to watch, yet so powerful that i can't help but recommend it.

also, donald is catholic, but a convert from a non-religious family, which i think that colors his view of the faith and its traditions. but he's 100% sincere in his belief, imo

gh0stpinballa posted:

the pizzagate series they did was pretty informative, everyone says don is like the ur irony guy but he comes across as pretty sincere and chill on the pod. well read too.

ime he is very sincere on the pod. hell, they answered my noob cooking questions and getfiscal talked about how his mental health problems interfere with doing poo poo like that. so, i like him

Finicums Wake has issued a correction as of 07:15 on Feb 13, 2020

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

gh0stpinballa posted:

the pizzagate series they did was pretty informative, everyone says don is like the ur irony guy but he comes across as pretty sincere and chill on the pod. well read too.

he's a nice guy outside his posting persona, he's critical of a lot of leftwingers but i think he's become more understanding of a lot of people

still has the only good "i identify as an attack helicopter" joke ive ever seen

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Finicums Wake posted:

taking a short break from salo to say that this film is unrelentingly brutal and entirely unenjoyable to watch

holy poo poo you are watching it

I wonder how many people fumed at virgil's tweet and are going to do the same

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
it was incredible seeing everyone think that a screencap of some guy getting his tongue cut out is how gay people have sex i guess??

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Dreylad posted:

he's a nice guy outside his posting persona, he's critical of a lot of leftwingers but i think he's become more understanding of a lot of people
he's a good influence i think, never mean spirited. i've never interacted with him beyond twitter, but i think he's a good source to go to for that because he spent years as a shut-in reading obscure maoist texts and has grappled pretty well with the limitations of various theories, and when he talks about it he doesn't talk in jargon.

the way they explained YCW is not that politics is dumb and doesn't matter, i guess, but that there are no real easy shortcuts around things. like it's starting with the first noble truth that life sucks, yes, but where do you go from there. that is informed by religion in their way... i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA-UtwsB5w8

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
I posted with him on SA and loved him trolling GBS into multiple permabans, but he was chill outside of that then. I agree with that message, if only because it aligns with my own life experience with politics and everything else. Life isn't fair, things aren't easy but we have to try anyway.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

also i really like episode 1, it's making the commute and work a lot easier to deal with this week. normally don't care for comedy podcasts either.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

i wish antifada would stop putting their good episodes* behind the paywall or that there was a pirate feed because I can't stand them usually but I like what I like a lot of it

*matt or andy focused

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Phone posted:

liberals going from watching harry potter movies to watching salo lol

bahahaha

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Impermanent posted:

:extremely gamer voice: oh its like dark souls

lmao

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Finicums Wake posted:

also, donald is catholic, but a convert from a non-religious family, which i think that colors his view of the faith and its traditions. but he's 100% sincere in his belief, imo

That's pretty surprising, because he's not insane in the specific way that in my experience 100% of catholic converts are.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
also, dark souls is about how the bourgeois have fooled everyone including themselves into propping up a capitalist, imperial soul economy which is in its death throes and taking reality with it. the avatars of the system seem impossible to overcome, but you can do it, not through being the chosen one (despite what the PMCs tell you), but by never giving up and relying on others. once you get to the top of the pyramid, you can make the choice to continue propping up the only system you've ever known, or let it die, and go forward with the unknown collective soul of the dark.

edit: basically, it's the story of obama's presidential campaign and his choice to disband his grassroots power once in office don't @ me

edit 2: trump is the formless mass of aldrich obviously

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


how is podcast formed

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
me, always, as i post in cspam:

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

crepeface posted:

also, dark souls is about how the bourgeois have fooled everyone including themselves into propping up a capitalist, imperial soul economy which is in its death throes and taking reality with it. the avatars of the system seem impossible to overcome, but you can do it, not through being the chosen one (despite what the PMCs tell you), but by never giving up and relying on others. once you get to the top of the pyramid, you can make the choice to continue propping up the only system you've ever known, or let it die, and go forward with the unknown collective soul of the dark.

edit: basically, it's the story of obama's presidential campaign and his choice to disband his grassroots power once in office don't @ me

edit 2: trump is the formless mass of aldrich obviously

Folks, it's a great deal, they're going to give us eyes on the inside! How stupid are we to try and see without them? Now the vacuous rom, who was very nasty to me,

Liz Warren is vicar Amelia. Steyer is gascoigne. You get the idea

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Sissy Micolash of failing Bergynwerth college and owner of mirror nightmares has a problem-his full moon party is no longer "hot"

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
drat. hell of a movie. had to take two breaks then a shower afterwards to collect my thoughts, but here they are

based on the comments in this thread--about people being trolled into watching it or it being edgy teenager poo poo--i was afraid that it'd be like Hostel, just More Extreme and Edgy. Salo's not that at all. it uses extremity as means to an end, rather than as an end in itself or for shock value or whatever. yes, there's torture, but it's depicted in a way that makes it the opposite of 'torture porn.' the film's dripping with sexuality, but lacking eroticism and devoid of any notion of romance.

salo's a metaphor for fascism, but it's so unsubtle that it seems wrong to even call it a metaphor. it's a depiction of what unaccountable, heirarchical power inevitably results in: decadence, depravity, and horrific violence. where the film really works is in its grueling portrayal of just those things. no one is going to find the torture thrilling or the sex titillating
i agree with the guy who said it's not a film that's likely to radicalize people or increase class consciousness or whatever. there's no need to go out and watch it or tell your friends about it.
hell, i think that, if any liberal does get trolled by virgil into watching it, they'll be unable to see any connection between neoliberalism and fascism whatsoever. especially if the neoliberalism comes wrapped in a nominally progressive veneer, like in the case of Mayor Pete.
to the liberal, 'indirect violence' is a contradiction in terms, only the one who pulls the trigger is responsible for what follows. in that sense, the brutality of neoliberalism, and its corresponding aesthetic, isn't like fascism at all, so idk how well screencapping the movie and linking that to mayor pete works as a criticism. sure, if you're not a lib you'll see the connection and the critique. i guess that's why so many people are melting down over that tweet lol

only after the movie did i realize why it hit me so hard. last year, due to reading these forums, i thought i should figure out what, exactly, fascism is. so i read roger griffin's 'Fascism,' a collection of translated primary sources from and about fascism. i found the texts horrifying, but only now did i realize the ways i intellectualized that poo poo, as a means of distancing myself from it.
there's a difference between knowing that fascism is revolting, and feeling your stomach churn at fascism. the only other film i've seen that achieves the same effect, Night and Fog, is a documentary with footage from the death camps. that's why salo rises above being just a troll or edgy teenager poo poo: the content it depicts entails that it come in the form of a gutpunch, and salo delivers

i stand by my impression from part-way through: it's an unpleasurable watch. but it's good, even if only in retrospect. if you post on these forums and hate fascism and/or like film, i think it'd be worth your while to watch

no, i don't need a napkin with my onion rings and milkshake. see you at the next window, thanks

edit: another reason the movie's so brutal is that it shows how fascism turns its victims against eachother, and the various ways that manifests. if it was nothing but scenes of violence and cruelty, that'd be one thing. but those scenes interleaved with the interpersonal drama was difficult to watch



double edit:

Impermanent posted:

:extremely gamer voice: oh its like dark souls


lmfao

Finicums Wake has issued a correction as of 09:41 on Feb 13, 2020

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

like gently caress am i ever watching that

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

reignonyourparade posted:

That's pretty surprising, because he's not insane in the specific way that in my experience 100% of catholic converts are.

if i had to guess, i figure his experience with politics clued him into the whole convert -> zealot thing

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Finicums Wake posted:

if i had to guess, i figure his experience with politics clued him into the whole convert -> zealot thing
i think for him the convert-zealot thing was maoism

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Homeless Friend posted:

me, always, as i post in cspam:


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