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I just finished this game too and goddamn it is amazing. I'm glad I took a chance buying it on sale. The Phasmid reveal was crazy, that was an amazing payoff for walking all over the drat island.
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I think Im the only person who disliked the phasmid showing up. I think it would have been better if Kim and Cuno didnt acknowledge it and its existence as either being real or a figment of Harry's imagination was left ambiguous. I also think it diminishes the story of the crytozoologists having it both be real and having Harry discover and photograph it.
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Feb 14, 2020 12:28
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that's fair but on the other hand the cryptozoologists story was really sad, and this made it happier  also apparently you can take cuno to the island? how did i miss that? i was on good terms with him and talked to him after the shootout
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Feb 14, 2020 13:37
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You can only do that if Kim gets shot in the shootout. You can then ask Cuno to be your partner and he'll go to the island.
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Feb 14, 2020 13:53
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Feb 14, 2020 14:03
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TommyGun85 posted:I think Im the only person who disliked the phasmid showing up. I think it would have been better if Kim and Cuno didnt acknowledge it and its existence as either being real or a figment of Harry's imagination was left ambiguous.
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Feb 14, 2020 14:37
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Dice Awards just happened, DE lost Best RPG to Outer Worlds, but took Best Story. I imagine it's kind of an odd compromise to make everyone gets something, because it sure wouldn't have worked the other way around.
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Feb 14, 2020 14:45
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Cpt_Obvious posted:While I appreciate the idea, I think it ruins the allegory of the phasmid as hope. It must be real, it must be tangible, for hope is also real. I agree, Kim also seeing the plasmid is almost as big a moment for him as it is for Harry. It shows his change of perspective since meeting Harry.
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Feb 14, 2020 15:20
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DalaranJ posted:I agree, Kim also seeing the plasmid is almost as big a moment for him as it is for Harry. It shows his change of perspective since meeting Harry. I just think it better suits the game's narrative that, of course Harry believes it to be true, but maybe its better to be ambiguous. For this reason, I like Cuno version since he doesnt have a camera and is known to also indulge in fantasy. Harry, Cuno and the cryptozoologists can be shown to believe in it (also as a symbol of hope) but someone like Kim would just need to take a leap of faith and choose to believe (or not) the other unreliable characters. Also, adds to the ambiguity of whether the Deserter killed the merc because of the pheromones or not.
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Feb 14, 2020 16:13
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The thing is that adds nothing to the narrative. Literally nothing. And you should never blow your climax on something that doesn't confront what you've spent your time examining.
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Feb 14, 2020 16:31
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Megazver posted:Dice Awards just happened, DE lost Best RPG to Outer Worlds, but took Best Story. What an awful game that was, I got it with the $1 pass and still feel ripped off. I couldn't bring myself to finish it, I checked out after getting all the characters. What made it even worse was this just happened to be the next game I played so I got like a direct comparison of the writing quality, lol
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Feb 14, 2020 16:35
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Yeah, I agree. I LIKED Outer Worlds, and the writing was a step above the usual 3D Fallout wanna be but man was that the wrong choice.
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Feb 14, 2020 16:37
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I did some more thinking after a good night's sleep and there are two things that I wonder about on my next play through. 1. Is there a way to get your gun back without helping Evert? Also in my previous game The Pigs made me sad because I got all the Hardy Boys killed.  I hope they were able to help her out before they all died.2. I never found another piece of the merc's armor at all. Where is the little girl down the coast? I never saw her. I presume something happens during the potential shootout if you have all the armor pieces.
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Feb 14, 2020 17:55
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OGS-Remix posted:I did some more thinking after a good night's sleep and there are two things that I wonder about on my next play through. 1. No idea. I never found an alternative solution to that one. 2. First piece is the legs on the dead body. The second piece, the gloves, are buried in a sandcastle by the little girl in the left shack above where the Lillienne's twins are playing (you have to talk to her and I think there is a dice roll). Third piece is on Gary the Cryptofascist and requires a perception check. The fourth piece (the helmet) is on the anti-aircraft island, given by the phasmid.
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Feb 14, 2020 18:24
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OGS-Remix posted:I did some more thinking after a good night's sleep and there are two things that I wonder about on my next play through. It's impossible to get the entire suit by the shootout, as the helmet is found on the island later on. The only effect AFAIK is that having the breastplate makes getting shot work out better? The mercs wont even comment you wearing their dead bro's gear
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Feb 14, 2020 18:25
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OGS-Remix posted:I did some more thinking after a good night's sleep and there are two things that I wonder about on my next play through. 1. No, mr. Evrart is the only one who can help you find your gun 2. I’m assuming the armour piece you found was the boots since it’s pretty obvious, so the others: Chest: Gary is wearing it under his clothes - I believe you have to pass a perception check to hear it clinking when talking to him and you can press him about it to get him to give it up. Once you finish the cryptozoologist sidequest and he leaves he will take it with him so you have to do it before then. Gloves: Talk to Lily inside the house in the fishing village that’s just next to the twins playing outside. No checks are needed for this one, you just have to ask her about it and she’ll tell you where she put it. Helmet: you can’t get this until after the shootout. You’ll find it in the phasmid nest on the island For the shootout itself, something will change if you’re wearing the chest piece. I don’t think the others matter.
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Feb 14, 2020 18:25
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OGS-Remix posted:I did some more thinking after a good night's sleep and there are two things that I wonder about on my next play through. 1. if you want to get YOUR gun back, working for Evart is the only way; the character who has your gun will only appear in the game when summoned by Evart after you finish his tasks. That being said, you don't have to actually HELP him, you get a couple ways to sabotage whatever tasks he gives you if you so choose. On the other hand, you can take Ruby's gun if she kills herself, you monster.
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Feb 14, 2020 18:49
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1. Technically, you don't have to help Evrart. He has to think you helped him, and you can mess up his plan. Just do it where he can't see.
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Feb 14, 2020 18:53
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The meeting at the end has some comments if you're wearing the full armor suit like I was, collecting enough pieces unlocks a thought that gives you a big bonus to the shootout, and wearing the breastplate saves your life even if you get shot by someone
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Feb 14, 2020 19:07
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Glagha posted:Yeah, I agree. I LIKED Outer Worlds, and the writing was a step above the usual 3D Fallout wanna be but man was that the wrong choice. Yea I liked Outer Worlds too, but wow it made so little impact once I finished it. I don't even think its writing was particularly good. There weren't any surprises or twists. Everything was what it was on the surface. Capitalism bad, that was about it.
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Feb 14, 2020 20:29
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Zero VGS posted:What an awful game that was, I got it with the $1 pass and still feel ripped off. I couldn't bring myself to finish it, I checked out after getting all the characters. Glad my gut feeling was right from watching a few bits of people playing it and thinking that their enthusiasm could not possibly be for the flimsy questline and characters that were on the video. It got way too much love as a gently caress you to Bethesda. I dunno why as the missions seem just as mediocre as fallout 4s, maybe because it wasn't a janky piece of poo poo that modders had to fix. Disco Elysium is actually my favorite thing I've even READ let alone played in recent years. I really loved its ending, I really swelled up with joy at it. I felt redeemed and vindicated as the player, and felt that that world was just odd and sad, and full of crazy possibility as the protagonist. I'd much prefer an indie game with some novelty and heart to it than a highly polished AAA type game. Its not that I don't think bigger devs have no creativity, but you just know that anything really good is going to get hammered into the most formulaic version possible because their teams have a lot more constraints and boxes to check/poo poo to shoehorn in. KC Deliverance couldn't have been made by a big company with shareholders, there's no way its ethos of non hand holding would every fly.
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Feb 14, 2020 21:50
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Gamedec Preview – Disco Elysium Meets Cyberpunk
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Feb 14, 2020 22:14
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I, for one, welcome our new Discolike overlords
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Feb 14, 2020 22:22
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Yea but KC Deliverance is a terrible, terrible game that exists purely to appeal to the Mesureheads out there.
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Feb 14, 2020 22:23
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Nah, it's pretty great, actually and the people who threw woke shitfits about it were the same people who tried to portrayal-is-endorsement DE.
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Feb 14, 2020 22:44
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Megazver posted:Nah, it's pretty great, actually and the people who threw woke shitfits about it were the same people who tried to portrayal-is-endorsement DE. Considering one of the developers is a straight up gamergater and did the whole "I'm sorry you were offended" kind of apology kind of deflates that. Plus it is a poo poo game. Combat was incredibly unintuitive and unfun. Clunky is the best way to describe the game, maybe people who are super duper sword nerds would enjoy it. Plus your main character looks like Dylan Root and is just such a wiener kid. Hobocop is such a wonderful mess to play. You can shape him however you want but he still has a distinct personality.
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Feb 14, 2020 23:56
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please no kingdom come deliverance arguments in the disco thread
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Feb 14, 2020 23:57
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1228007469835849729
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"As one of the first journalists in the world," Wow, I'm impressed, how old is this person now, like 500?
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Feb 15, 2020 01:40
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everybody knows Marx was the first journalist, it was probably a reference to him
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DalaranJ posted:I agree, Kim also seeing the plasmid is almost as big a moment for him as it is for Harry. It shows his change of perspective since meeting Harry. Finally Kim Pinball Kitsuragi is ready to experiment with amphetamines!
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Feb 15, 2020 01:55
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Mulva posted:The thing is that adds nothing to the narrative. Literally nothing. And you should never blow your climax on something that doesn't confront what you've spent your time examining. Mr. Dick would contend that it's nice coda, tying up loose ends is the thematic glue of the end game. Tying up one of the biggest ones, the least expected one, and getting observations on the pale and the world from outside of a human perspective adds immeasurably to the structure and elegance of how the narrative is conveyed.
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Feb 15, 2020 02:03
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when you fail a 97% skill check
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Feb 15, 2020 02:45
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Speaking of which, apparently the result for "Finger On The Eject Button" thought is "Suicidal ideas every evening." What exactly do those entail? God, just the wording of that thought gives me shivers. Writing on suicide, in games or otherwise, is always really disturbing to me. Which is probably a good thing.
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DalaranJ posted:"As one of the first journalists in the world," The article was originally written in Polish, as far as I can tell, and translated to English. A mistake or two might have slipped in.
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Xanderkish posted:Speaking of which, apparently the result for "Finger On The Eject Button" thought is "Suicidal ideas every evening." What exactly do those entail?
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Feb 15, 2020 18:08
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Finished a replay of this game, my first was high psy/mot and this was high int/phys Half light will lead you down some dark loving roads if you let it. I like...naturally fell into ruining people's lives over the phone? Which is one of the good things about this game, that you can fall into doing horrible loving things by just not paying enough attention to the consequences of what you're saying. edit: I have still never played board games with Kim nor found out about his pinball past because I've always felt awkward about pressing on that.
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Feb 17, 2020 05:24
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stop the loving presses, I am dying here: https://twitter.com/KapitonovaOlya/status/1228985382253072384 also Disco Elysium is in some awards tonight or something
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Feb 17, 2020 18:31
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Heh I liked how they used the kimono for that picture.
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Just finished, it took me a while to get into the game, but around day 3 I finally "got it" and it hooked me good. I think my favorite part is that you start out thinking your a terrible terrible cop who got assigned to the case to mess everything up so each precinct wouldn't actually have to take responsibility in the area, then it slowly comes out that you're actually a really god drat good detective, just a horrible drunk. And this mostly comes out with Kim sloooowly going from annoyed at your antics to appreciating them.  Also at the end just before the insect showed up, with the perception check of "It's like a bow being pulled back." I was 1000% convinced that the deserter wasn't alone, and he actually had a partner waiting to ambush you and kim.
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