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Brad Shepard is horrible and should be ignored but he managed to have the worst of the transphobic takes coming out of Nyla's win. https://twitter.com/GenoMrosko/status/1228430150989238274
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MassRafTer posted:Brad Shepard is horrible and should be ignored but he managed to have the worst of the transphobic takes coming out of Nyla's win. Six seconds was all I could take. Gonna check with my novelty brass knuckle makers about getting a Trans Rights set.
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Wrestlers working for the money is a heel move. That’s why ROMAN said Brock only wrestled for money and not the fans.
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My conspiracy theory take on that is that a lot of promotions lean into that in order to make wrestlers that campaign for increased pay and better conditions look bad to wrestling fans: I've seen plenty of people replying to Starr campaigning for stuff with "people should wrestle because they love it and not for money!!!"
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Since I've seen so many wrestling fans stand up for a company that doesn't give a gently caress about its employees, it's made me wonder something. Is there anybody who stans for Amazon the way people do for WWE?
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The mayor of Seattle.
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...these people ARE aware that wrestling is fictional & that Nyla doesn’t have any unfair advantages whatsoever, right?
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dsriggs posted:...these people ARE aware that wrestling is fictional & that Nyla doesn’t have any unfair advantages whatsoever, right? don't even fall for the argument that trans women have an advantage over cis women in real competitions, please, it's not true
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dsriggs posted:...these people ARE aware that wrestling is fictional & that Nyla doesn’t have any unfair advantages whatsoever, right? Look, I don't think you understand. Trans people, if that is indeed their real name, are icky and gross and the entire universe is obligated to bend over backwards cater to my own personal biases and hang-ups! Do I need to write a picture? Gosh! What do you mean "get the gently caress over it?"
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If Nyla Rose is allowed to “compete” as a woman, the imbeciles bleat, it will destroy the suspension of disbelief, even though these people have no trouble suspending disbelief to enjoy matches by an undead mortician, a dentist-turned-pyromaniac, a “fiend” in a Halloween mask, and an assortment of other preposterous characters upon which the entire enterprise of modern professional wrestling has been established.
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Dangerous Person posted:Since I've seen so many wrestling fans stand up for a company that doesn't give a gently caress about its employees, it's made me wonder something. Is there anybody who stans for Amazon the way people do for WWE? You can find it for any and every company and every major sport. It’s not unique to WWE
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TinTower posted:If Nyla Rose is allowed to “compete” as a woman, the imbeciles bleat, it will destroy the suspension of disbelief, even though these people have no trouble suspending disbelief to enjoy matches by an undead mortician, a dentist-turned-pyromaniac, a “fiend” in a Halloween mask, and an assortment of other preposterous characters upon which the entire enterprise of modern professional wrestling has been established. Literally their line of argument could be applied to Rey Mysterio wrestling heavyweights and it would be just as absurd.
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illcendiary posted:You can find it for any and every company and every major sport. It’s not unique to WWE NFL fans constantly complain about not having helmet to helmet hits anymore has made the game "soft" and that the players are entitled babies. And then you have this: https://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-Science-Behind-Destroy-Football-ebook/dp/B07JN1XS9Q
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Pinche Rudo posted:NFL fans constantly complain about not having helmet to helmet hits anymore has made the game "soft" and that the players are entitled babies. 
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This Nyla Rose thing is so so dumb even for pro wrestling fans. The entire concept of an unfair advantage in a worked sport just baffles my mind. But really that's just an excuse they use to cover their bigotry.
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You need testicles to hulk up and beat people twice or thrice as large as you or when fighting multiple opponents it's a simple scientific fact this is unfair for our natural grappling damsels in the legitimate sport of pro wrastling.
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The "transwomen have an unfair advantage" argument is dumb in any sport. If you're to become one of the best in the world in any given activity you absolutely have had advantages, inherent or otherwise, that most other people don't. Yet somehow all that is never cited as "unfair", for some strange reason (p.s. the reason in bigotry). E: Even if it were true, that is. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Feb 15, 2020 |
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While there are issues with methodology that comes from sample size (not many openly transwoman athletes, I guess), but IIRC, studies done indicate that transwomen do worse in sports where muscle strength is a significant factor, compared to their pre-transition records, and by the time they've fulfilled the IOC's requirement of 12 months of HRT, there's no significant difference between their bodies and a cis woman's body, with some exceptions like the plumbing downstairs. NOT THAT IT SHOULD loving MATTER IN A FAKE SPORT, FOR gently caress'S SAKE.
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Broken and geriatric men come out of retirement and have competitive matches with guys half their age in wrestling and no one ever bats an eye.
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Vagabundo posted:While there are issues with methodology that comes from sample size (not many openly transwoman athletes, I guess), but IIRC, studies done indicate that transwomen do worse in sports where muscle strength is a significant factor, compared to their pre-transition records, and by the time they've fulfilled the IOC's requirement of 12 months of HRT, there's no significant difference between their bodies and a cis woman's body, with some exceptions like the plumbing downstairs. this is correct and thank you for the followup to my post earlier, i'm stuck on mobile for a bit and couldn't easily bring the details up
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Vagabundo posted:While there are issues with methodology that comes from sample size (not many openly transwoman athletes, I guess), but IIRC, studies done indicate that transwomen do worse in sports where muscle strength is a significant factor, compared to their pre-transition records, and by the time they've fulfilled the IOC's requirement of 12 months of HRT, there's no significant difference between their bodies and a cis woman's body, with some exceptions like the plumbing downstairs. My "favourite" bullshit like this is when members of the "it's biology 101" crowd say things like "Transwomen have an unfair advantage because they have testosterone in their system". Any adult human who doesn't have testosterone in their system needs to go to the doctor now because they're very very sick.
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Basically these are all bad-faith arguments from dipshits who think that South Park episode where Cartman scammed his way onto the Special Olympics team was a documentary.
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JT Smiley posted:Broken and geriatric men come out of retirement and have competitive matches with guys half their age in wrestling and no one ever bats an eye. Old man strength!
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These are the kinds of idiots that sat through Moolah, Harvey Whippleman, James Ellsworth, etc to now complain about the sanctity of the Women’s Championship because they believe they finally have a point.
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If Nyla proclaims herself a chair leg, she’s a loving chair leg. Why should I even waste my time debating this stuff? Particularly with people that aren’t even remotely close to Nyla.
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Nyla Rose is far, far more of a lady than any of these twitter goblins gibbering about chromosomes and muscle strength are gentlemen; and I wonder sometimes if maybe on some level they know it too
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SatansOnion posted:Nyla Rose is far, far more of a lady than any of these twitter goblins gibbering about chromosomes and muscle strength are gentlemen; and I wonder if maybe on some level they know it too That's really social media trolls in a nutshell. Lots of inadequacy projection. Thing is instead of seeking therapy to deal with it they self medicate with spewing garbage on social media. It really is a drug.
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coconono posted:If Nyla proclaims herself a chair leg, she’s a loving chair leg. Why should I even waste my time debating this stuff? Particularly with people that aren’t even remotely close to Nyla. She should identify as an attack helicopter to piss off the people who make that dumb joke
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the @ is badtakesjustin i'm not sure what else you'd expect really
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I honestly don’t know if that tweet is offensive or seven levels deep of irony and sarcasm
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illcendiary posted:You can find it for any and every company and every major sport. It’s not unique to WWE Fair enough. I never seek that sort of thing out beyond this thread so I'm way more familiar with psycho WWE fans than any other kind
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RealFoxy posted:I honestly don’t know if that tweet is offensive or seven levels deep of irony and sarcasm don't give it the benefit of the doubt, it's lovely
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The validity of a trans woman winning the women’s title has nothing to do with a belt’s prior prestige or lack thereof, or size differences in wrestling, or age differences or gimmick matches or mixed tags It has to do with the fact that trans women are women
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:The validity of a trans woman winning the women’s title has nothing to do with a belt’s prior prestige or lack thereof, or size differences in wrestling, or age differences or gimmick matches or mixed tags Fuckin preach.
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1. Do any of these people care about how 'natural' a competitor Brock Lesnar or Ryback is? I think those guys are replacing more hormones than nyla. 2. Wrestling is fake. The belts don't have any prestige outside of kayfabe you loving marks
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