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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Yeah my mother and brother are 100% convinced that if healthcare was free at point of use then all the good doctors and nurses would move to other countries and all the government doctors would be bad and "real" doctors would cost extra.

I try to explain that in either scenario, we cannot afford the good, expensive doctors, but in one of the scenarios there is still free healthcare available, even if it's lower quality, and they just shrug and go "well, i dunno..."

Just don't talk politics with anyone in your family, it's just a waste of time.

Veni, i've had like that exact conversation

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Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Bust Rodd posted:

Just don't talk politics with anyone in your family, it's just a waste of time.

:emptyquote:

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Yeah avoiding talking politics is the only way I'm able to maintain a healthy relationship with my parents. Every once in a blue moon they will say something so dumb I just can't not say something though :lol:. To be fair to them, they clearly try to avoid talking about it too, so at least they aren't actively trying to jam it down my throat of anything.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Bust Rodd posted:

Just don't talk politics with anyone in your family, it's just a waste of time.

I get it, but also don’t let lovely ideals go unchallenged. Even if it doesn’t change their mind, make sure they know they’re loving brainwashed idiots who’ll kill us all if things go their way.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


univbee posted:

I get it, but also don’t let lovely ideals go unchallenged. Even if it doesn’t change their mind, make sure they know they’re loving brainwashed idiots who’ll kill us all if things go their way.

Nah it really isn't worth it. Go rage in the streets, canvas, punch nazis...but ruining an otherwise good relationship with your own family over politics isn't worth it even if they are brainwashed.

Or at the very least challenge their ideals in a way that doesn't ruin your family imo.

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 15, 2020

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I love how the thread went from people talking about how they were ready to drop 5 hundo on the PS5 to talking about how this hellhole of a country destroys us all and drags people into poverty.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Spending part of a months rent on something you are going to really enjoy for 6 years is blessed, having your life ruined because you drew the short stick in the health lottery is cursed.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




Escapism Station 5 Hundo

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



I feel really nice with my 16k/year salary but having a great health care in Spain comparing to these costs (I'm in the army and I have private health care and can still use the public one too).

OxMan
May 13, 2006

COME SEE
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SlothfulCobra posted:

I love how the thread went from people talking about how they were ready to drop 5 hundo on the PS5 to talking about how this hellhole of a country destroys us all and drags people into poverty.

Almost as if an entire generation has reached a level of being squeezed to such a degree that it is impossible to rationalize in any way in the age of information where all machinations are mostly known by a theo-plutocracy with its hand around the world's throat that can't hide its history and deeds from the young working class anymore. A whole class of Wesley Everetts. Like it's the ps4 thread and all but we can't let this poo poo go and like univbee said, frankly we shouldn't.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




veni veni veni posted:

Or at the very least challenge their ideals in a way that doesn't ruin your family imo.

I guess if you want to be subtle about it you could host socialist meetings at your parents’ house or put a Trump book jacket over a copy of Das Kapital or something.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice
Show them the Fox News thing with Bernie. They’ll watch it because it is on the only network that isn’t FAKE and they will become Bernie fans because they will hear his words.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




OxMan posted:

Almost as if an entire generation has reached a level of being squeezed to such a degree that it is impossible to rationalize in any way in the age of information where all machinations are mostly known by a theo-plutocracy with its hand around the world's throat that can't hide its history and deeds from the young working class anymore. A whole class of Wesley Everetts. Like it's the ps4 thread and all but we can't let this poo poo go and like univbee said, frankly we shouldn't.

Elena Gorokhova posted:

The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

veni veni veni posted:

I went and got lunch with my Fox News loving mom recently and mentioned how much it sucked getting nailed with a bunch of unexpected medical bills out of nowhere.

Mom: Well, it could have been much worse Veni! When Sherry (her best friend) got sick last year they had over $55,000 dollars in medical bills out of pocket, even though they have very good insurance!
Me: that's terrible though
Mom: Uhhh, No it's not. The got the best healthcare because we are in America
Me: Well it still sucks she got financially ruined because she got sick. That's not good mom
Mom: She didn't. They were good at saving and had enough money for retirement to cover it
Me: That still sucks she lost her life savings because she got sick.
Mom: (rage increasing) WELL IF YOU WANT THAT SOCIAL WHATEVER HEALTHCARE WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY! GO HAVE FUN WITH THAT! IN CANADA IT TAKES OVER A YEAR TO EVEN SEE A DOCTOR!
Me: no it doesn't
Mom: Well that's what I heard!
Me: and I'd rather just vote for people here that are pushing for better policies
Mom: Well I hope you get what you want!
Me: Uh, thanks? Me too!

Sorry for the internet conversation recap I know those are the worst.

I love it when ppl in America are like if you don't like it then leave cuz that's exactly what I did

Started playing dq11 again and love how chill this game is

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Because their lies play into our system’s inherent racism, so far to many find it far to easy to believe.


Is PS4 news, I played some RS6 last night; is it bad I failed the laser trip mine dude protect the hostage thing three times in a row on normal before going to bed?

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Healthcare in the US sucks and I don’t make a lot of money, but I will absolutely drop $500 on a PS5.

Priorities.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

man nurse posted:

Healthcare in the US sucks and I don’t make a lot of money, but I will absolutely drop $500 on a PS5.

Priorities.

[In unison to audience] the PlayStation thread

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Hey friends, come join us at the Democratic Primary thread and talk about our thin sliver of hope.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912894

acksplode
May 17, 2004



veni veni veni posted:

Nah it really isn't worth it. Go rage in the streets, canvas, punch nazis...but ruining an otherwise good relationship with your own family over politics isn't worth it even if they are brainwashed.

Or at the very least challenge their ideals in a way that doesn't ruin your family imo.

My trick was to become the best cook in the family, now everyone has to put up with my poo poo or else they don't get sous vide ribeye steaks and fresh homemade bread at the gathering. How's the twice-baked potatoes? Prosecute ICE, it should be legal to hunt and eat Jeff Bezos, can you pass the Brussels sprouts?

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
I don't understand how Americans are not all out in the street protesting for affordable public healthcare every single day. Your entire medical system is a money making machine off the backs of people. It is disgusting.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Hopper posted:

I don't understand how Americans are not all out in the street protesting for affordable public healthcare every single day. Your entire medical system is a money making machine off the backs of people. It is disgusting.

Because if you go protest, you didn't show up for work, you get fired and you starve to death before the lack of healthcare kills you.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Hopper posted:

I don't understand how Americans are not all out in the street protesting for affordable public healthcare every single day. Your entire medical system is a money making machine off the backs of people. It is disgusting.

Also America is very very large and our government spent the last decade militarizing our police and funding aerial predator drones. It’s basically exactly like The Matrix except the machines don’t even bother lying to you

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
If I go out and protest that cuts down on the time I can play my Sony PlayStation 4

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




RichterIX posted:

If I go out and protest that cuts down on the time I can play my Sony PlayStation 4

PS4 Remote Play is on phones now, you can play your PS4 with one hand while hurling molotovs with the other.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

SlothfulCobra posted:

I love how the thread went from people talking about how they were ready to drop 5 hundo on the PS5 to talking about how this hellhole of a country destroys us all and drags people into poverty.

Videogames are money well spent on mental health.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
Sony is truly "For the Players"

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Lumpy posted:

Because if you go protest, you didn't show up for work, you get fired and you starve to death before the lack of healthcare kills you.

Also Masses and masses of propaganda and some of the stuff that happens is so evil that no one believes it because no one can be that evil, right?!

Video game chat: If I am remembering it properly, this is an actual plot point in Metal Gear Rising. No one believes that a major military contractor is kidnapping thousands of children and harvesting their brains to turn them into child soldiers because it’s too evil to be believed. People who end up with artificial soldier bodies are stuck working for mercenary groups because that is the only job that pays enough to cover the maintenance on the robo-bodies.

Also coming from Sekiro to BB has been weird. Is Sekiro in the same engine as the rest of the Souls games? Obviously it was developed much latter, but it has so much more visual polish and has much less jank than the Souls games. BB owns though. I’m only up through BSB but I think I am liking it more. Sekiro has had better boss fights, but fighting regular enemies is far more fun in BB. You can actually take on more than one enemy at a time (though you can still get wrecked pretty quick), while in Sekiro your only option is to run away or spam certain prosthetics.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

SlothfulCobra posted:

I love how the thread went from people talking about how they were ready to drop 5 hundo on the PS5 to talking about how this hellhole of a country destroys us all and drags people into poverty.

Get thee all to cspam

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The new metro expansion is pretty great. Really digging the story and environment.

OxMan
May 13, 2006

COME SEE
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Pulcinella posted:

Sekiro has had better boss fights, but fighting regular enemies is far more fun in BB. You can actually take on more than one enemy at a time (though you can still get wrecked pretty quick), while in Sekiro your only option is to run away or spam certain prosthetics.

I'm phone posting but someone is gonna show up with those sick sekiro slowmo gifs and show you the error of your ways.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Lmao when I imagine how much more miserable and depressing my life would be without the ability to blow off some steam via vidya games. Those persona dance games are basically a super effective ssri you can get for sixty bucks and never have to refill.

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

DrNutt posted:

Lmao when I imagine how much more miserable and depressing my life would be without the ability to blow off some steam via vidya games. Those persona dance games are basically a super effective ssri you can get for sixty bucks and never have to refill.

I've been playing music games regularly for like two decades because of this.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I like when people say "well if you don't like it, move to Canada!"

I've tried that. I lived in Toronto for 2 years. Illegally, because do you know how hard it is to become a Canadian citizen

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
So I finally finished the chalice dungeon line in Bloodborne along with all optional trophies. Just gotta beat it two more times and I'll be platinum.

:cool:

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

enojy posted:

I've been playing music games regularly for like two decades because of this.

The only reason I own an Xbox one was so that I could carry my Xbox 360 rock band library forward. Worth it, even if the PS4 is superior.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Hilario Baldness posted:

So I finally finished the chalice dungeon line in Bloodborne along with all optional trophies. Just gotta beat it two more times and I'll be platinum.

:cool:

:discourse:

GOAT game

PlushCow
Oct 19, 2005

The cow eats the grass
When I had my first herniated disc, playing Jedi knight 2: Jedi Outcast capture the flag multiplayer was the only thing that could distract me from the constant crippling pain: pills did nothing. I have never since been as good at a multiplayer game that I was at that one, I could fly.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Pulcinella posted:

Also Masses and masses of propaganda and some of the stuff that happens is so evil that no one believes it because no one can be that evil, right?!

Video game chat: If I am remembering it properly, this is an actual plot point in Metal Gear Rising. No one believes that a major military contractor is kidnapping thousands of children and harvesting their brains to turn them into child soldiers because it’s too evil to be believed. People who end up with artificial soldier bodies are stuck working for mercenary groups because that is the only job that pays enough to cover the maintenance on the robo-bodies.

That room full of brains in vats that get a jolt to their pleasure centers when they commit virtual war crimes = Twitter

Pulcinella posted:

Also coming from Sekiro to BB has been weird. Is Sekiro in the same engine as the rest of the Souls games? Obviously it was developed much latter, but it has so much more visual polish and has much less jank than the Souls games. BB owns though. I’m only up through BSB but I think I am liking it more. Sekiro has had better boss fights, but fighting regular enemies is far more fun in BB. You can actually take on more than one enemy at a time (though you can still get wrecked pretty quick), while in Sekiro your only option is to run away or spam certain prosthetics.

https://twitter.com/SunhiLegend/status/1134882178926632960

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
"Why are so many people overdosing on pills cut with Fentanyl that they bought off the street?" the media asks
"Yeah really, it only costs around $1000 to get started at a pain clinic, and then another few hundred every month or two. Chump change!"

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WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
You dont "spam" prosthetics. You use them when you are outnumbered yes but that's what they are for.

Ninjutsu skills (Bloodsmoke, Puppeteer and Bestowal) are also specifically meant to be used against groups because they weaponize corpses.

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