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According to the demonologist Sebastian Michealis (and Wikipedia), Astaroth seduces by means of laziness, self-doubt, and rationalized philosophy. I see a lot of this in Nicolai’s character, which also makes Sloth a good fit for the relevant Deadly Sin.
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it's fine if astaroth is also lust. it would explain why nicolai suddenly decided that he was in love with karin despite not particularly caring about her until now.
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Feb 15, 2020 17:38
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look we can't all be the lust demon, somebody's gonna have to go home and change
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Feb 15, 2020 17:39
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I suspect there was suppose to be more build up but that got cut, like all the little things in the director's cut, but I'm always glad Karin reacts with appropriate confusion and disgust instead of some stammering 'oh-oh but... but! even if you are a dickhole who gaslit me I'm joining you.' swooning you see in certain other games.
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Feb 15, 2020 19:32
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Pesky Splinter posted:There's something even worse with the puppet, that they removed for the western releases which I'll be covering in due course. I was wondering about that. Guess it's something to, well not look forward to.
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 i guess i'm several pages and a week late on this, but otoh i guess we're still at a point in the game where saying отвали мудак to Rasputin is appropriate?
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Robindaybird posted:I suspect there was suppose to be more build up but that got cut, like all the little things in the director's cut, but I'm always glad Karin reacts with appropriate confusion and disgust instead of some stammering 'oh-oh but... but! even if you are a dickhole who gaslit me I'm joining you.' swooning you see in certain other games. Goddamn does that bit of Xenosaga 3 still piss me off.
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Shitenshi posted:Also, did you forget to include the entry for Necros? Wolf Bout enemies live in Blanca's profile instead of the Library and I've been trying to put them right after they get defeated. I did miss that they slid a new entry in for Asmodeus-Rasputin several entries back.  Caim would kill this jerk just for lacking conviction in doing all the murder. TurnipFritter posted:
This is very good. Anastasia is the rare OK gremlin child little poo poo in a JRPG.
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While we're doing things pages lateThe Dark Id posted:The Peryton is a mythological beast from the ancient, lost times and land of... 1957 Spain.  Argentina actually!
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Feb 16, 2020 02:03
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The Dark Id posted:
If I remember right, Anastasia's nickname among the palace staff was "little imp" for how much she loved pranking them so her being a bit of a gremlin is perfectly within character.
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Feb 16, 2020 02:27
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Okay, Anastasia sleeping on Joachim is actually kinda cute
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 So this is breaking sequence somewhat for something that's not usually availble until the endgame, but it's entirely inconsequential to the overall story, and the quicker it's out of the way, the better, as it's one of the worst aspects of the game - it's all the good poo poo from here on out after this unfortunate little blip. Just to forewarn, maybe don't read this one around other people. It's kinda grody.  So, the first order of business is there is actually a little secret bonus for having a SH1 save game on the memory card. And it was actually translated into English! However it was never properly implemented in the international versions - only the Japanese versions of the game, and not, as previously believed, exclusively in the Director's Cut. And it also only detects a Japanese SH1 save file. I have a feeling it was removed for...well, you'll see soon enough.  There's going to be lots of jumping between the English and Japanese versions to show this off, if the sudden text flipflops are confusing anyone. --- Now, the normal sequence of events is getting to the endgame, and visiting this guy in the Wine Cellar, who offers a little RNG "Lucky Chest" minigame, where matching all the items in the chest will give you an item.   I'll leave The Dark Id to explain the actual game itself when he revisits the Wine Cellar, but with a SH1 save detected, Jimote here unlocks an extra stage - the EX Stage, which will reward you with an ultra special item.  (Just pretend the above is what I'm talking about  )But of course, there's no legitimate way to get this in the English version. Nil desperandum, however! There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call ...    Who you callin' a dummy, room!?This is the games debug room - internally called Debug Island -from here we can modify the various game flags, give/remove items, teleport to maps, set up battles, and engage in general jiggery-pokery of the game.  It's very extensive, and even has some unused items, but right now we're after a very specific and exclusive item.  And yes!   It's Wanderer Meiyuan...the gross pervert molester from the first game - looking considerably more buff than last time we saw him. The Dark Id posted:Thankfully, we no longer need him to modify our Judgement Ring attacks, and he was replaced by a menu, which doesn't grope the male characters. Oh, and the Soul Ring, a far better character. Despite having this in our inventory, there is one more prerequisite; we need to have acquired all the previous dresses (and stud cards obviously). I've done that already, so now, Yuri and company stop off in Montmartre to have a little chat with Gerard and Pierre.    Music: Dear, My Dressmaker ~ The Tailor  What's up?  Can you help out? Pierre's so down, he's not doing any work. What's the problem? You're trying to find yourself? That's something you should have figured out twenty years ago.  It's this book I read recently. It really got to me. I've just been seeing things so superficially. Never really finding the true essense of things...All the dresses I make...They've got no substance. There's nothing to them! Oh, it's no use! I'll never be a top designer at this rate... That's a shame. Just when I brought you a Stud Card too.   Is it...?! Just smell all those pheromones! Could it be...? It'd be too good to be true! Huh? This? Jeez, keep your shirt on! It is, isn't it?! I knew it! The most sought-after of all Stud Cards. The best of the best! The rarest of cards! Only one was ever printed! Meiyuan! Y-you're going to let me have it, right? Well...I dunno. I mean, you're not making dresses anymore, right? Yuri, you tease.  I will, I will! Don't worry about that! The best I've ever made! Oh, just looking at it makes my eyes water! Really? This? Oh, yes! Really! No question! You won't regret this, I promise! C-can I have it?! What's so great about it? Pleeeease! Just let me hold it! Okay, okay! Here, have it! <Yuri hands over the card>  I'll start designing a new dress right away! Like this...a bit here...a bit there...There! All done! Let me see, let me see! Ta-da!  It's bugged in the English version, giving Cornelia her starting dress and the wrong name. But with a bit of editing magic;  Et voilà. Huh? There's no dress there... Ah, this dress is invisible to fools, you see!  Surely...you can see it...right, Yuri? It's a beautiful garment, isn't it?  All those frills on the sleeves. It's very pretty! There aren't any frills. It's a tube top. Um...  Okay, take care of it, now! It's my best dress! But don't use your eyes to look at it. Use your heart! See ya!  Gerard has an additional line that never actually triggers.  The book that made such a big impression on him was "The Emperor's New Clothes." You must be furious, huh?  Oh, we'll be furious in a minute Gerard, just you fuckin' wait. To the dress menu!  Hopping over to the parallel Japanese dimension for a moment...  Oh dear...that sketch... Music: ENDS. Drumroll begins.  Presenting the latest creation from my 1915 Pierre Magimel Collection! I call it...   "Beautiful Fool"!!Thanks. I hate it.  why game? W-H-Y.  Why, Pierre? Why?  So...yeah...this is the "Beautiful Fool" dress. Obviously based on the story of the Emperor's New Clothes, it's a joke "dress", and doesn't teach any new skills whatsoever. It has the property of "全ての特殊攻撃力減" - "All special attacks reduced" - though I'm not too sure if it's Gepetto's attacks reduced, or the enemies.  Gepetto please stop doing that with your cursed daughter substitute  It's honestly pretty grody. It gets even worse with the fact that - Spoiler Warning - you can equip her in just white panites, or a black thong when you unlock them later.  Thanks. I hate it.  Thankfully, the rest of the Director's Cut stuff is actually good and not gross. ---  Oh, Cornelia! You're pretty as a peach! Hey Gramps, do us a favour and put some clothes on it yeah? Oh yeah, her dresses are adorable!  You know, I'm really not comfortable with the...um...naked doll thing. Same. You'd better keep it away from me пожилой человек. It's alright. They're not including it in the international versions. *Pant, pant* (Phew!) C'mon! The quicker we do these sidequests, the quicker we can get back to Russia! It's only...1700 miles that way! Let's just pretend this never happened okay? Fine! Fine! Fine! I'll put another dress on her, and we'll say no more about it. You're just salty you're too much of an idiot to see it.---   To wash out that bad taste, have an goofy un-used concept for Cornelia. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Goddammit, Japan.
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Hrmmm gotta say, I don't much care for that bit of information.
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I really, really wish they'd gone with Dragon dress instead of T.E.N.C. reference. Dragon dress looks like it would have been amazing.
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Thank you for not including video.
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Thanks. I hate it.
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I don't like it.
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BisbyWorl posted:I don't like it. Post/avatar combo. A+
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Man, why didn't they go with the dragon dress? Not only is it cute and adorable, they could've squeezed in a Godzilla and/or some miscellaneous kaiju reference! I don't care if wouldn't have been era appropriate, they certainly didn't mind with Mata Hari and her counter part.
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n'thing the "should've done the dragon dress" comments Like. Even ignoring that it's pretty gross, "no extra abilities" is pretty terrible for a thing you only get from having save data from the first game, and I don't doubt that they went that route because of the ENC reference (or they went with ENC because of the ability...? I don't know which is worse, honestly.)
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Feb 16, 2020 07:26
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Going to The Bad Place is not on me for once...
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If all the dresses were like that dragon dress, Corneila would be a lot more tolerable.
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... It's ... a featureless marionette. I am honestly more shocked at all the responses to the doll as if she was an actual child then to the doll itself.
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For one brief, blessed moment I thought that the joke was they just made her invisible. Me, 3 minutes ago: "its... its not good, but thankfully I can just page down I read the text, The Bad Place will soon be gone..." Me, 2 minutes, 59.8 seconds ago "gently caress gonna scroll back up until I finish reading the next line of text then double tap page down." Also I forgot about Meiyuan, its too early for this.
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Ratoslov posted:If all the dresses were like that dragon dress, Corneila would be a lot more tolerable. She could have been a mini-Yuri and had cutesy demon-inspired dresses for the elements, but no, we went firmly into the Dark Place.
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I’m so happy I was right about Joachim getting a huge frozen fish. Truly the strongest melee weapon.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:While we're doing things pages late AFAIK Borges edited and published it first in Spain (there was also a shorter version published in Mexico under a different name) so arguably the Book of Imaginary Beings has three different places of origin. But yeah if we're going by the author's nationality then it's Argentine.
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Grand Gigas posted:I’m so happy I was right about Joachim getting a huge frozen fish. Truly the strongest melee weapon. For now.  I don’t think either dress is nice, personally. Ugh is more my reaction.
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Mokinokaro posted:Reminder that Gepetto based the marionette on his deceased daughter... You make it sound like a father shouldn't remember his daughter. Neddy Seagoon posted:Intent is a clear factor involved, and it is not a good thing here (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I don't really have any strong feelings about this doll stuff beyond it being pretty unnecessary, but there are surely more worthwhile hills to die on than the one you're picking here.
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Dev team fetish or not, I'd still rather have had the cute dino/dragon outfit rather than naked doll joints. I just think it would've looked better, personally. 
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Commander Keene posted:Dev team fetish or not, I'd still rather have had the cute dino/dragon outfit rather than naked doll joints. I just think it would've looked better, personally. If that dummied line was enabled it would make clear sense the ENC dress was meant as a joke and not serious. No new skill, and apparently Geppeto's S.P and S.D are reduced makes it a useless outfit for a clear game bonus. I'm all for a new functional outfit too, but it's clear at least this addition was meant as a joke. unlike most additions which expand at least some weak aspect of the original game.
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you get mad at Persona 5 fanfics where Ann and Shiho are dating, but not this
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I for one, think it's a little creepy, but... like... I've learned not to throw tantrums about things? "Thanks. I hate it." And then I stop thinking about it instead of complaining and whining.
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Grand Gigas posted:I’m so happy I was right about Joachim getting a huge frozen fish. Truly the strongest melee weapon. Now guess anything that he's going to find on disc 2.
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I've always thought it was a shame Yuri wasn't real and living in modern times, because I'd love to see him on an episode of Hoarders where he breaks down sobbing in his house that's piled high with everything he's ever seen because he doesn't know what's gonna be needed for a sidequest or a weapon for a party member
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