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thespaceinvader posted:Nobody could have, and I struggle to believe anyone will be able to in future. This isn't going to go away until lefties in Labour go away, and even then it'll be kept on the back burner as a functional bat to beat future lefties with. I see no possible downside to the fate of British Jews in the future when Brexit inevitably makes life completely horrible for the British working class sun-reading peasants who voted Tory who will proceed to go full fascist and there's no left to protect them.
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Al-Saqr posted:Not gonna lie it's really depressing and sad to see Labour internalize and apologize for the completely made up zionist anti-semitism smear campaign on them, they shouldve just followed their american comrades example and told people to gently caress off and whipped their entire base into choosing between socialism or Israeli Barbarism and treated supporters and sympathizers of Israel as the blood-enemy of the left they actually are. They blinked and let the fascists cower them. American Socialists have tougher backbones and are willing to make Israel and their local proxies and evangelical supporters their enemy and fight them tooth and nail. Never Apologize, Never give an inch. "Never apologise" works online but in the real world when your opponents control 9/10ths of the media it doesn't. It's easy to say they shouldn't have apologised but that ignores the brutal reality is that a lot of the attacks on anti-semitism came from within the Labour Party, especially but not exclusively from MPs. I'd also wait until the Primaries are over & Bernie is the locked in candidate before saying they have "tougher backbones". AOC even managed to have a go at Corbyn for antisemitism after all. Al-Saqr posted:I see no possible downside to the fate of British Jews in the future when Brexit inevitably makes life completely horrible for the British working class idiots who voted Tory who will proceed to go full fascist. Yes, but if the British public had any foresight they'd not have elected Boris Johnson in December & yet here we are.
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Poor people are going to gently caress and have babies and there's nothing Dick Dawkins can do about it. Also, take heed from the dandelion. If you try to kill a population for centuries at a time, you don't necessarily eradicate it. Sometimes you create a total nuisance: a resilient lineage that you didn't want in your garden, but that will burrow through concrete to be there, and will survive the near total destruction of its roots. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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244 posts since Friday night! Hope it's not all crisp chat. Have been frantically moving stuff up on to high shelves etc today as the river outside my flat is above the level of my floors, fortunately not breached the retaining wall yet!
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:244 posts since Friday night! Hope it's not all crisp chat. Oh goodness, be safe and best wishes 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:244 posts since Friday night! Hope it's not all crisp chat. Just going to ignore all the other fuckery in that and say what the everloving poo poo is "Is It Worth Giving Children Pre-School Education?" Like, yes. This has been proven by HighScope/Perry to the point where even the biggest Numbers Fuckstein liberal should be able to see it. And they managed to do it without any terrifying child experimentation, by looking in an already deprived area and giving half the kids there high quality preschool education by lottery. You could argue that was unethical by omission for those kids that didn't get selected, but it was better than the situation before the study and it proved the outcome. His idea that it's not necessary because children are capable of attaining average verbal skills and IQs with only 5-10 hours per week of educational interaction fails in any way to explain why kids from identical populations with good preschool education are likely to earn more, be out of work less, and be involved in crime less.
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So, I am plotting Diced Meaty Goons - that is to say, a UKMT-and-friends Dungeons and Dragons game run by me in East London. I think from conversations at goonmeets etc we should be able to source enough players (4-6 or so, ideally) to make it work. Synopsis: D&D 5th edition, since it makes a good common denominator. I've run 4th and 3.5 edition games before but not DMed or played 5th yet, so it will be a learning experience for us all  Custom setting - I'm thinking a cross between the Spire (check the FATAL thread in Trad Games for a synopsis) and Carnival Row from the televisions. So, a more 18th/19th century sort of feel; set in a large city; guns are a thing but still fairly rare; magical subway cars exist, so do trains, that sort of thing. The city is a capitalist, imperialist state run by humans, other races's lands are colonised and its inhabitants in the city are Oppressed Masses forced to live in a ghetto. Players can be Oppressed Masses (human or otherwise) or sympathisers farther up in the social hierarchy. This is the UKMT so I would expect players would generally want to try to overthrow this system, foment revolution, etc etc. Likely venue is this gaming-friendly pub/bar, where we had my last goonmeat, or possibly some sessions at my house which is a few minutes' walk east of Barking station (in which event there will be snacks). Thinking maybe every couple of weeks to start with, for say 3-4 hours; open to either a weekend or a weekday evening depending on who is free when. Anyway, PM me or post itt if interested!
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https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1229038574294765570 Will be interesting to see how this shakes out, Cummings may see a test of his importance to Johnson in other news, Starmer is seeing the wind blow due Long-Bailey https://www.twitter.com/politicshome/status/1228975197182668800 https://www.twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1228969201613901824
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Feb 16, 2020 16:04
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Late to the party but at first I thought Sajid had shown some backbone by resigning, then I realised forcing Boris to fire him would have actually done that and it was a cop out. When do we have to do something for the leadership elections that I'm getting all these texts about?
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Guavanaut posted:What he completely misses is the moral dimension of 'for what?' We can breed a cow to produce a lot more meat (and there's a moral dimension to that) but what are we going to breed humans to produce more of? If it's meat then there's a big This is certainly true, but probably also just comes down to Twitter being a bad medium. The goals of a hypothetical program are pretty important to consider here. A human eugenics program designed to increase median height and muscle mass, for example would likely be entirely successful. And we can already see the beginnings of a genetic health-based eugenics trend occuring in countries where fetal monitoring is becoming the norm. But generally what people want out of a eugenics program is to somehow increase human intelligence, but so far there's little indication that it's particularly possible. Intelligence is far too complicated a trait to be tracked and manipulated through something as crude as partner selection. If it were ever possible to improve, it'd be through genetic engineering. And the scientific capability for doing that remains in its infancy. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/can-crispr-cas9-boost-intelligence/
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feedmegin posted:So, I am plotting Diced Meaty Goons - that is to say, a UKMT-and-friends Dungeons and Dragons game run by me in East London. I think from conversations at goonmeets etc we should be able to source enough players (4-6 or so, ideally) to make it work. Synopsis: Very much interested, assuming I can make the dates  what sort of schedule are you thinking?
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Camrath posted:Very much interested, assuming I can make the dates Literally depends on when people are free. I dont want to run a Monday game because generally all I want to do on a Monday evening after work is come home and slump on the couch with a glass of wine, but other than that I'm pretty open. I guess I'll float a trial balloon of say 2pm on Sunday, but I don't really have any other commitments (yet) so really it's whatever will work best for whoever wants to play.
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Re texts and calls from Labour party: if you get your phone number removed from the membership database then you don't get them  (I removed mine when I was branch secretary and had the power).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Re texts and calls from Labour party: if you get your phone number removed from the membership database then you don't get them Idk, I still get emails to my old address years after I changed it.
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feedmegin posted:Literally depends on when people are free. Every week? Still that time does actually work for me
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Camrath posted:Every week? Still that time does actually work for me Every other week, at least to start with - I'm starting a new job so I want to make sure I don't over commit.
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I can;'t do even a bi-weekly game in London, shame, I'd love to play a Paladin of the Common Man in a UKMT game lol
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thespaceinvader posted:I can;'t do even a bi-weekly game in London, shame, I'd love to play a Paladin of the Common Man in a UKMT game lol Knowing where you live, my place is a straight shot from Paddington on the Hammersmith and City line  But yeah it is a bit of a hike, having made that trip myself in the past.
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Mate I've known I was a nerd since I was about 12 years old (and, as it happens, running a Dragonlance game on my lunchbreak at school)
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It's a ten minute walk for me but I still can't commit.
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Oh, I've been the flaky player myself in the past; I'm not expecting everyone to turn up every time. That's fine as long as there's still enough people to run the game, your character will just be off in the background doing a Seaside Loafer after having had a bad rat on a stick or whatever while everyone else fights for their lives.
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feedmegin posted:Mate I've known I was a nerd since I was about 12 years old (and, as it happens, running a Dragonlance game on my lunchbreak at school) whoa, wait... you had friends? got me beat 
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Ratjaculation posted:i'll be there, staring at you through the windows, calling you all nerds The most un-nerdy I've ever felt was turning down the prototype meet for this to go watch a football match just up the road, lol
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feedmegin posted:So, I am plotting Diced Meaty Goons - that is to say, a UKMT-and-friends Dungeons and Dragons game run by me in East London. I think from conversations at goonmeets etc we should be able to source enough players (4-6 or so, ideally) to make it work. Synopsis: If you're happy to accommodate a newb whose D&D experience consists of using cheats in Skyrim so I can walk around in a loincloth incinerating dragons with one hand I'd be up for this.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If you're happy to accommodate a newb whose D&D experience consists of using cheats in Skyrim so I can walk around in a loincloth incinerating dragons with one hand I'd be up for this. Yep, that's absolutely fine. We're at 4 people now, so that's definitely enough for a viable game (space for a couple more people if anyone does want in though). I guess the 21st century approach to this stuff is a Whatsapp group? I'll PM everyone my number just so everyone has it, anyway.
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Borrovan posted:She denies having beaten her boyfriend & was awaiting trial. Not understating that female-on-male domestic violence is a serious issue that isn't taken nearly seriously enough by society (funny how the pigs suddenly give a poo poo when there's a celebrity involved), but the presumption of innocence is still a thing. Quite agree. "Justice for all" even people you don't like. I posted something about female on male domestic violence on my FB a couple of years ago (having a couple of male friends/acquaintances on the receiving end and also knowing a couple of young guys working in hospitality in Red Sea hotels who get serious sexual harassment from female tourists), and one of my female friends who is heavily into domestic abuse politics (in particular generalizing from an example of an Egyptian man beating his spouse to 'all muslims/arabs are bad' to which my response is - female relative beaten black and blue for 12 years by White Welsh Christian - all white welsh christians bad?) replied 'I don't care about men they get everything they deserve'.
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feedmegin posted:Knowing where you live, my place is a straight shot from Paddington on the Hammersmith and City line I already can't do all the weekly commitments I'd like to do that don't require a 2+ hour round trip travel that costs tens of pounds each time
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Why is all of the cool stuff always in London Critical mass of people (and decent public transport infrastructure), unfortunately. I had like zero luck finding anyone to game with in Cambridge, at least without like a 90 minute trip each way by public transport; turns out that's because all the nerds are down here.
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feedmegin posted:Anyway, PM me or post itt if interested! FUUUUUCK YEEEES. Count me interested! I work till 5 most days (random pattern atm) but I am always happy to game. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Mebh posted:drat! How many texts have you gotten? I've only gotten the two.
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Mebh posted:So what's the consensus on deputy leader? Rayner is the momentum backed one right? I was gonna go Butler Burgon,but Butler's stupid "no anonymity on the Internet" plan is really making me question that
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