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I think they've dropped enough info on the cast that theres potential for all of them, but the show hasn't even begun to dig into any of them yet. Everyone is clearly haunted by the trauma of the loss of someone they cared about (the pattern is so clear that you can tell this week we'll learn about chakotay's death). The story feels a bit like its moving at the pace of The Witcher - at the end of the season the only thing that will have been achieved is the cast being united.
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Alchenar posted:I think they've dropped enough info on the cast that theres potential for all of them, but the show hasn't even begun to dig into any of them yet. Everyone is clearly haunted by the trauma of the loss of someone they cared about (the pattern is so clear that you can tell this week we'll learn about chakotay's death). This is disturbingly accurate. Can only hope by then they'll have learned what the audience likes and doesn't like and being a Star Trek show get to follow up on it. Still really like the idea of a brutally honest Australian Romulan samurai, but I'm biased. Also still reckon people shouldn't bitch too much about Romulan lore since it's basically a gimme as Star Trek lore goes. Kinda hope we see more Remans, mostly because I like the sympathetic STO portrayal.
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Feb 17, 2020 15:44
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CPColin posted:They need to deepfake Majel Barrett's voice to deliver the "Last time on Star Trek Picard" lines. Before she died, they recorded Majel speaking every word and English phoneme so she could be the computer voice forever. Kurtzmann & co will never use it
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Feb 17, 2020 15:50
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Lizard Combatant posted:I pushed the toilet to the brink of destruction. Yeah it's more of a valve. That or dump boron over it by helicopter
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ashpanash posted:That or dump boron over it by helicopter  
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Can people stop being strict about genres, they don't matter. There's no debate in sci-fi more tedious than the debate over "is X proper sci-fi?"FuturePastNow posted:Before she died, they recorded Majel speaking every word and English phoneme so she could be the computer voice forever. People keep saying this, but does this ghoulish voice actually sound any good? Have we heard it?
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Feb 17, 2020 16:30
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marktheando posted:People keep saying this, but does this ghoulish voice actually sound any good? Have we heard it? Majel's got a hell of an inflection.
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Feb 17, 2020 17:47
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marktheando posted:People keep saying this, but does this ghoulish voice actually sound any good? Have we heard it? Yeah I bet it sounds really artificial...
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Recording every phenome and having a huge library of sounds will be extremely useful to create voice fakes in production of shows in, oh, maybe five years or so? We're on our way there but it's still pretty much prototypes. In all likelihood creating natural sounding lines in a person's voice will end up working similar to visual deepfakes - you'll have a voice actor record their own take on the lines and then software mutates that into a target voice. That way language nitty-gritty like emphasis and inflections and the actual acting and emotions in the words can be sourced from the voice actor. There's been work done in the field - Adobe Voco was demo'd but never went anywhere, but there's other people exploring it. It'll be great for computer games, because you can have one overworked voice actor record all your lines and then mutate him into two hundred different NPCs. EDIT: although that said, even synthesis that doesn't depend on the deepfake-voice technique I mentioned has come really far. Look up the WaveNet synthesis demos. They just can't be done in real-time yet, I believe. It might be possible to use wavenet-like software to create Majel computer lines today. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Lizard Combatant posted:Yeah I bet it sounds really artificial... If it sounds like siri or alexa or whatever that totally isn't good enough to use for tv.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7umhCkklOU
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marktheando posted:If it sounds like siri or alexa or whatever that totally isn't good enough to use for tv. I could see them using a more computery sounding voice as part of the anti-synth movement so people don't confuse the computer with a real person or start thinking it has rights.
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Powered Descent posted:Majel's got a hell of an inflection.
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Send the next one in.
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marktheando posted:If it sounds like siri or alexa or whatever that totally isn't good enough to use for tv. It's a joke, chief
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Oh goddamnit Emmet stands for EMergency Tactical hologram doesn't it I'm not smart.
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Emergency Medical Technician (EMT)
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Powered Descent posted:Majel's got a hell of an inflection. 
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MikeJF posted:Oh goddamnit Emmet stands for EMergency Tactical hologram doesn't it I'm not smart. I dunno but Spanish Jason Momoa can activate anytime 
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Powered Descent posted:Majel's got a hell of an inflection. Read Alert
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That seems more an unintended side effect of time travel, though from what I've read it seems confusing whether it's where Link vanishes at the time of need Avatar style or whether he just flat out dies, losing to Ganondorf. Wow, so they had a precedent for Cap wanting to go back and make a Good America and they chose to just stick him in Bad America an be fine with it?
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The Bloop posted:Read Alert I genuinely enjoyed the Reed Alert joke in Enterprise, i might well be the only one
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If they want a truly unwinnable scenario, they just need to get Geordi to make one like Moriarty. "Computer, create a Kobayashi Maru scenario that even James T Kirk couldn't cheat."
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just another posted:VOICE OVER Wow this...seems extremely on point.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I genuinely enjoyed the Reed Alert joke in Enterprise, i might well be the only one no, it was good Most of Enterprise was good. It just mostly wasn't Good Trek (defined as well-handled moral conundrums and aspirational human togetherness)
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I always loved the "Reed Alert" joke because it seemed like a pretty self-aware poke at prequel "Easter eggs" or whatever you want to call that sort of thing
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Enterprise was certainly better than its reputation, but it wasn't particularly good for the most part. That said, aside from the 9/11 Git'er Done arc (which was more egregiously anti-Trek than anything we've seen since) and the reverse-pregnancy I'm not sure it ever hit the lows of early TNG or S1 DS9. The cynical and pathetic exploitation of Jolene Blalock does deserve pointing out as a blot on the franchise though. Partially redeemed by letting her actually be an actor in the later seasons.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Enterprise was certainly better than its reputation, but it wasn't particularly good for the most part. That said, aside from the 9/11 Git'er Done arc (which was more egregiously anti-Trek than anything we've seen since) and the reverse-pregnancy I'm not sure it ever hit the lows of early TNG or S1 DS9. Can't the same be said about Jeri Ryan? Or was there a practical reason for that ridiculous skin tight cat suit they put her in?
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The one where Archer is wondering if he should interfere with a pre-warp civilisation and says "We need some kind of.. directive" isn't meant to be a joke though.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I always loved the "Reed Alert" joke because it seemed like a pretty self-aware poke at prequel "Easter eggs" or whatever you want to call that sort of thing The best Enterprise in-joke is the one that references the deleted alternate ending to Nemesis where Picard gets a new first officer and a new captain's chair--WITH SEATBELTS HOLY poo poo. They reuse the same model chair for the NX-01 Season 4 upgrade, and when Archer starts poking around at the buttons on it he's about to press one and Tucker goes "Ah, yeah, no, don't touch that one." And its the same button Picard presses that makes the seatbelts spring out of nowhere. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing, and its the stupidest most obscure inside joke that probably only 10 people would have gotten at the time.
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thrawn527 posted:Or was there a practical reason for that ridiculous skin tight cat suit they put her in? what could it possibly be? Seven was given a line saying it was more efficient or something (And the heels too I guess lol) It was just embarrassing nerd bate-bait, that was the "practical" reason
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thrawn527 posted:Can't the same be said about Jeri Ryan? Or was there a practical reason for that ridiculous skin tight cat suit they put her in? Yup. She looked fine in the 5 seconds we've had of her on The JL Show so far.
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“We need some kind of...Star Trek: Enterprise. Only on UPN” *Archer looks directly at camera for an uncomfortable 40 seconds*
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"Perhaps in the future, another crew can have their own Original Series of adventures"
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The Bloop posted:what could it possibly be? I think the explanation given for her original flashy silver suit was that it was needed to protect her skin as she audjusted to life free from her Borg exoskeleton suit. Which was bullshit, but if they kept it for like a couple of episodes or just till the end of the season it would have been... okay-ish? But no, Rick Berman wanted to show off Jeri Ryan's body to reel in horny nerds, even though every time they put Seven in a uniform or normal non-catsuit clothes she looked WAY better. It just sucked because according to Ryan she had to get tied into a corset to fit into the catsuit and it really hosed up her back wearing it. So gently caress Rick Berman for making people literally suffer for the shameful benefit for harvesting nerdsweat.
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Troi - looked better in a real uniform 7 of 9 - looked better in a real uniform T'Pol - looked better in a real uniform poo poo, the bajoran getup was fine, but also Kira - looked better in a Starfleet uniform
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It's funny/cool that Jeri Ryan is probably the Star Trek crew member most likely to be mentioned in history books written centuries from now, with the role her divorce played in the start of Obama's career.
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The Bloop posted:Kira - looked better in a Starfleet uniform This one— nope.
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 It's fine, not Starfleet but clearly a duty uniform. Strap-on gorilla arms are a bit silly.  She looks good here. It's not dramatic like the others, but still an improvement imo.
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just another posted:The unrealistic part is that we're only just now hearing about them but they're being accorded the status of Explicit and Ancient Tal Shiar Nemesis. Imagine the perfect Romulan accountant: one who refuses on principle to ever keep an accurate ledger, for fear another might learn the truth of it.
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