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Chill la Chill posted:I was expecting Honolulu coverage to look like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HztAWVUO1Zo Oh my god yes. There is really a fatal lack of hooting and hollering in modern magic. Outdoors, no sleeves or shirts. I want to see trash talking, bikini clad women, random passers-by joining the crowd like it's a street basketball game. Make it happen wotc.
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What about tearing the opponent's lethal burn spell in half in defiance?
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Feb 17, 2020 20:55
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:What about tearing the opponent's lethal burn spell in half in defiance? No judge in the world would DQ you if it was Bonfire.
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Feb 17, 2020 21:03
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Toshimo posted:No judge in the world would DQ you if it was Bonfire. 
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Toshimo posted:No judge in the world would DQ you if it was Bonfire. I think they'd thank me for getting rid of one.
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Feb 17, 2020 21:07
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:What about tearing the opponent's lethal burn spell in half in defiance? There is actually a judge on twitter saying that ripping up cards you own in front of people will get you issued a penalty.
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Feb 17, 2020 21:16
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Sickening posted:There is actually a judge on twitter saying that ripping up cards you own in front of people will get you issued a penalty. To give context before people start jumping on this one, Thoralf Severin posted a photo of a torn in pieces Dream Trawler following his participation in Worlds, as a bit on the card being dumb. A judge tried to use it to advise against destroying cards(both yours and your opponent's) due to frustration at events as that is unsporting conduct(falls under 4.5 Unsporting Conduct-Aggressive Behavior) in the IPG, but it comes off a lot worse when the wording isnt the best and it's being applied to a joke rather than someone actually being aggressive.
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FrozenPhoenix71 posted:To give context before people start jumping on this one, Thoralf Severin posted a photo of a torn in pieces Dream Trawler following his participation in Worlds, as a bit on the card being dumb. A judge tried to use it to advise against destroying cards(both yours and your opponent's) due to frustration at events as that is unsporting conduct(falls under 4.5 Unsporting Conduct-Aggressive Behavior) in the IPG, but it comes off a lot worse when the wording isnt the best and it's being applied to a joke rather than someone actually being aggressive. I want to believe this rule only exists because of the Chaos Orb incident where someone tore up the card to make sure it hit every permanent on the board. For those not in the know,  edit: looking up the rules, sleeves count as part of the card for Chaos Orb so now I want to see someone play Chaos Orb in a deck with 9.5"x11" sleeves. edit2: I am not the first person with this idea.  edit3: Okay, the Gatherer page for this card might have the most amusing comments out there.  https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=603 axeil fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Feb 17, 2020 21:45
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What’s the best price anyone is seeing for mystery box pre orders. Anything much less the $110?
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Magic Underwear posted:Oh my god yes. There is really a fatal lack of hooting and hollering in modern magic. Outdoors, no sleeves or shirts. I want to see trash talking, bikini clad women, random passers-by joining the crowd like it's a street basketball game. Make it happen wotc. Same but I want the entrance stage to have fireworks and maybe give them wrestling names so they can have hell in a cell matches and when one loses they throw their deck at the other and folding chairs get smashed and
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FrozenPhoenix71 posted:To give context before people start jumping on this one, Thoralf Severin posted a photo of a torn in pieces Dream Trawler following his participation in Worlds, as a bit on the card being dumb. A judge tried to use it to advise against destroying cards(both yours and your opponent's) due to frustration at events as that is unsporting conduct(falls under 4.5 Unsporting Conduct-Aggressive Behavior) in the IPG, but it comes off a lot worse when the wording isnt the best and it's being applied to a joke rather than someone actually being aggressive. Severin tore up the Dream Trawler because he spiked his own draft and Autumn’s draft pool by hard pivoting to take it instead of using any of the good cards that he drafted from pack one and everybody watching in the booth highlighted that. He warped the entire table to pivot out of two colors and lost anyways, and admits as much.
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axeil posted:I want to believe this rule only exists because of the Chaos Orb incident where someone tore up the card to make sure it hit every permanent on the board. It also prevents people from trying to angle shoot by destroying cards. They'd do that.
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Feb 18, 2020 00:20
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i thought that chaos orb story was supposed to be a myth
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Feb 18, 2020 00:33
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It's been pointed out that destroying a card would leave you with an illegal deck so it shouldn't ever have been a legal move.
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Feb 18, 2020 00:36
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Wezlar posted:Like I said, he has done some sketchy stuff. It could definitely be an accident, both mistakes just also happen to be incredibly beneficial for him in their current game states. Tough to tell without the context of the game, but how’s the spreading seas one much of a benefit? Seemed like he still had plenty of white sources.
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Pontius Pilate posted:Tough to tell without the context of the game, but how’s the spreading seas one much of a benefit? Seemed like he still had plenty of white sources. They were all islands.
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suicidesteve posted:They were all islands. Ah whoops missed that. Ya, that’s pretty bad, but I’ve made mistakes that benefit me and it’s bound to happen when he’s been on camera for oodles of hours. Perhaps I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt since he’s one of the best magic writers; one of my favorite parts of magic was how much written content was made for a game and I’m saddened by the move away from that. But I’m in my 20s and get enraged by news videos instead of articles so I probably just need to learn to love the video (and delivering longer writing broken up in thirty different 140 [or whatever it is now] character chunks, for some reason)??
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Feb 18, 2020 01:48
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Each and every person who thinks PV is a cheater is the biggest idiot on the planet
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That’s actually not true because I think he’s not a cheater and I’m the biggest idiot on earth
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Time posted:That’s actually not true because I think he’s not a cheater and I’m the biggest idiot on earth You're not even the biggest idiot in this thread.
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Sampatrick posted:Each and every person who thinks PV is a cheater is the biggest idiot on the planet Why would you say that?
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Feb 18, 2020 02:23
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You can play Magic without cheating?
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FrozenPhoenix71 posted:To give context before people start jumping on this one, Thoralf Severin posted a photo of a torn in pieces Dream Trawler following his participation in Worlds, as a bit on the card being dumb. A judge tried to use it to advise against destroying cards(both yours and your opponent's) due to frustration at events as that is unsporting conduct(falls under 4.5 Unsporting Conduct-Aggressive Behavior) in the IPG, but it comes off a lot worse when the wording isnt the best and it's being applied to a joke rather than someone actually being aggressive. the funniest part is that card was never used in a tournament because they drafted paper cards and then played the decks on Arena
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suicidesteve posted:You're not even the biggest idiot in this thread. I will never be detrhoned, you cannot have my crown of colorless-only cards
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Magic Underwear posted:The games were good (minus the last one) but man they need to figure out how to make these more hype. Go watch any EVO grand finals, the energy is way higher. This was like being in a library, you'd think the winner took home 5 grand and airfare. The crowd shot at the end was so close up, and there was almost no crowd sounds in the mix, it felt very empty. It's hard to get hype when variance is such a huge part of the game. Assuming no equipment fails, fighting and other video games are decided purely by skill. Even beyond that the skill is just decision making. Which is great but not as obviously impressive as sako doing a training room combo mid match or like a csgo pro hitting a flick headshot against an opponent jump peeking over a box.
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freeman posted:It's hard to get hype when variance is such a huge part of the game. Assuming no equipment fails, fighting and other video games are decided purely by skill. Even beyond that the skill is just decision making. Which is great but not as obviously impressive as sako doing a training room combo mid match or like a csgo pro hitting a flick headshot against an opponent jump peeking over a box. You do not have the Heart of the Cards
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freeman posted:It's hard to get hype when variance is such a huge part of the game. Assuming no equipment fails, fighting and other video games are decided purely by skill. Even beyond that the skill is just decision making. Which is great but not as obviously impressive as sako doing a training room combo mid match or like a csgo pro hitting a flick headshot against an opponent jump peeking over a box. All but literally the final game of the final match of the final set of matches were some of the most skill intensive games of Magic ever played, I think it’s just a matter of being invested.
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The players can't see each other. They are staring at a screen rather than staring down the opponent sitting across. Tom the. It takes all the energy out of the match and turns it in to pure logic puzzle.
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Bust Rodd posted:All but literally the final game of the final match of the final set of matches were some of the most skill intensive games of Magic ever played, I think it’s just a matter of being invested. Great decision making alone doesn't generate hype. Don't really think it's a matter of being invested otherwise the people making the trip out to worlds to watch would have been going nuts. They're just as invested if not more than the people jumping up and down yelling during a top 8 at evo for a game they might not even play.
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I also just think it’s really hard to develop that energy on a static battlefield. Magic is not an action oriented game. I watch a lot of poker on TV and the energy levels are very similar, even with 5 real people at the table. Cards aren’t very dramatic
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Hmm. Maybe if we make Arena have louder and flashier and yellier animations? Do you think that would help?
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Jabor posted:Hmm. Maybe if we make Arena have louder and flashier and yellier animations? Do you think that would help? No, but if drinking can make baseball exciting then alcohol in the audience could do the trick.
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What were the crowd at worlds even seeing? Clearly they couldn't be shown what was being streamed because showing player hands would generate crowd reactions that would influence player behavior.
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I honestly watched almost the entire Worlds presentation over all 3 days on Twitch and wasn’t really aware that there even was a crowd. I assumed everyone at the event was WotC staff, pro Players, and their +1s
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Bust Rodd posted:Severin tore up the Dream Trawler because he spiked his own draft and Autumn’s draft pool by hard pivoting to take it instead of using any of the good cards that he drafted from pack one and everybody watching in the booth highlighted that. He warped the entire table to pivot out of two colors and lost anyways, and admits as much. It's nice to know that even at the world championships, people still act like the 12 year olds who play at my LGS who open a mythic in pack 3 and destroy their whole deck trying to play it.
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Toshimo posted:What were the crowd at worlds even seeing? Clearly they couldn't be shown what was being streamed because showing player hands would generate crowd reactions that would influence player behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/f4y092/when_you_have_bad_seats_and_cant_see_anything/ I guess the headphones are noise cancelling
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Bust Rodd posted:I honestly watched almost the entire Worlds presentation over all 3 days on Twitch and wasn’t really aware that there even was a crowd. I assumed everyone at the event was WotC staff, pro Players, and their +1s I think it was only on the last day? It’s the only day they made mention of it that I saw. Watched all of day one and a decent portion of day two. Fish Of Doom posted:It's nice to know that even at the world championships, people still act like the 12 year olds who play at my LGS who open a mythic in pack 3 and destroy their whole deck trying to play it. Dream trawler is v v good in limited. Arguably Severin should be good enough to read that someone up stream of him would have been cutting White and blue. I doubt he’s the only player there that would have snapped on that pivot and if nothing else hate drafted it Yiggy fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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I don’t think pros hate draft, I feel like most of them know better
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Bust Rodd posted:I don’t think pros hate draft, I feel like most of them know better I'm not the best drafter but i think you take a dream trawler 100% of the time when you're playing your pod because if an opponent casts it they win basically on the spot, especially if there's nothing else in your pack worth taking. E: well maybe not pack 3 if I’m in neither color Look Around You fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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