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PinheadSlim posted:When I was a wee lad I tried to install Chex Quest on my Hewlett-Packard and it just wouldn't work The trick is to make sure the toner's full before you boot the game up. After that it'll go just fine.
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PST posted:While we're on that subject At this point, every time they vague post about a thing or make a claim without proof, they need an escalating probation that resets when they actually do post something to substantiate their stuff.
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Zereth posted:A developer. I think he did some music on it, he wasn't like, the Main Guys.
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Feb 15, 2020 17:22
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Benson has a write up of his bad experiences with Holowka while developing the game.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Benson has a write up of his bad experiences with Holowka while developing the game. I actually linked that story in my post. 
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Heck you did.
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PST posted:While we're on that subject Anyways, I was talking about Erik Tenkar who is Frog God Games convention organizer. Also, I'm 100% certain that one of the times I snapped on this forum was when I first heard this. Listen carefully and notice how he says I'm saying this at Totalcon. https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/tavern-chat/e282-gen-con-bans-zak-s-do-pIsTonH_M5K/#1 quote:Its been building over the last week and a half, but the un-personing of Zak S has pretty much been completed. I don't like Zak - I personally think he's a piece of poo poo. I just don't like companies banning and / or removing folks because they fear the small but vocal outrage brigade. https://kotaku.com/fantasys-widow-the-fight-over-the-legacy-of-dungeons-1833127876 Here's Tenkar promoting Macris: https://player.fm/series/tavern-chat/e310-designers-makers-fireside-chat-with-alex-macris-redux-new-release-arbiter-of-worlds And here's a more egregious example where he goes after members of the OSR for rightfully pointing out that Macris is a Nazi: https://www.tenkarstavern.com/2019/08/hobbs-friends-podcast-rereleases.html?m=1 Also, to give extra context because I dont think your from Massachusetts (Or clthis country?) but Macris was the CEO for Milo. Milo participated in a Nazi rally last year in the city of Boston. You're really underselling how bad of a situation it is. Do you know how panic inducing it is to know that almost all the women you know who attend Totalcon would fall under Tenkar's "outrage brigade"? Oooo in case you don't want to listen to the podcast I forgot I had a partial transcription of Tenkar defending Zak: quote:Single individuals making actions that will impact tens or hundreds of thousands of gamers. Your ability to see creations that zak s might come out with in a year or two. It might be the most awesome poo poo in the hobby or it might be poo poo. Don’t get me wrong but it has the potential and your not going to see it because everyone is shutting him down. Also, in the interest of full disclosure I found this through sheer dumb luck. Don't ask anything more because truth be told I wasn't even intentionally trying to find this information. I legitimately found it because of a Starfinder Kickstarter I was vaguely interested in. http://www.irongm.com/a-big-winner-and-a-huge-loser/ quote:A known cosplay stalker dude glommed onto one of our models. He used their passing acquaintance from other conventions as an excuse to creep our other models and tried to weasel into my HQ area. I explained that he had to clear out in no uncertain terms, muting my aggression at first because either he was pushing sixty or he’d aged horribly like some grizzled were-fig. He complied. http://www.irongm.com/a-big-winner-and-a-huge-loser/ Once again to reiterate. That last incident has nothing to do with Bill Webb but with Totalcon.
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I don’t think it was much of a secret that Tenkar is a piece of poo poo.
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Goodman Speaks. https://goodman-games.com/blog/2020/02/17/goodman-games-comments-on-judges-guild/ The video is basically scolding the Bledsaws for a few minutes, but they're not changing their future publishing plans. However, they're donating 20% of the Kickstarter funds to a few charities (GLASD, ADL, something else I can't remember), and JG/Bob Jr's shares of the proceeds will also go to them. So Bob/JG won't get any money from it.
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dwarf74 posted:Goodman Speaks. If they're willing to not pay their licensors, why the gently caress aren't they willing to break ties? Because lemme put it this way: I'm calling that a big fat lie because of how contracts work. The only way JG doesn't get paid their contractual licensing fees is if JG choose to donate, and one KS' worth of donations doesn't excuse being a Nazi.
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Mors Rattus posted:If they're willing to not pay their licensors, why the gently caress aren't they willing to break ties? e: part of the reason video responses suck is because they're a big time investment and impossible to properly quote. dwarf74 fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Goodman games presents the, um, cityscape of the indefeatable oligarch.
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Reminder: Goodman games has people literally burning copies of 4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons in book art and proudly announced that fact to backers of his Kickstarter. He is a dumb freak.
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dwarf74 posted:JG chose to donate. Which is why this is bullshit. This is PR for a literal Nazi and a smokescreen - a one-time donation to justify a continued business relationship with, again, a literal Nazi.
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Mors Rattus posted:Which is why this is bullshit. This is PR for a literal Nazi and a smokescreen - a one-time donation to justify a continued business relationship with, again, a literal Nazi. I'm a lot more worried if GG continues to work with JG or pay them for anything not yet developed.
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dwarf74 posted:I can understand where you're coming from. I am also sympathetic to not wanting to flush away a few years of work because the guy who owns the license turned out to be a nazi. If JG isn't actually seeing a cent of it, that's at least something. That's similar to how Rob Conley is handling it - his JG/Wilderlands stuff is still up for sale, because JG isn't getting money from it. They've already said they don't plan to cancel any projects. How much more evidence of continuing work do you need?
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Mors Rattus posted:They've already said they don't plan to cancel any projects. How much more evidence of continuing work do you need?
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I have this incredibly niche point of view of not giving money to Nazis. It helps that I think the German government could revoke my passport and jail me, but the main part is they're god drat Nazis. I don't think you could make a game that would overcome that even if the book was full of cocaine and hookers and a pony.
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dwarf74 posted:There's a difference between stuff they're already deep into - I only know about JG Vol 2 and Tegel Manor - and stuff that isn't yet in the works. The Bobs have no place the hobby. I don't think that means taking down everyone else who's ever worked with JG. There really isn't. If a project is half-written vs not even begun doesn't matter - no future business with Nazis. Like, the one they're literally kickstarting right this second? Sure, fine. The rest? gently caress off. e: if you think that taking a financial hit is worse than working with Nazis, you have literally put a price tag on you working with Nazis. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:I have this incredibly niche point of view of not giving money to Nazis.
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dwarf74 posted:And no money is going to the nazis here. Only because the Nazi has graciously said they're not taking the money.
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Better safe than sorry. loving Nazis. Can't emphasize this enough : I'd go to jail if I said these things and it's a law I'm very, very happy about.
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I mean the only good faith argument I can think of is that Goodman Games would literally go insolvent if they dropped the line, but if that's the case, then they should have literally said that first thing. As in "First thing's first: I would cancel this completely but I would be bankrupted by it" and as far as I know they didn't say this or even imply it. Dogshit move from Goodman.
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Oh no, the company that made Broncosaurus Rex would go bankrupt? Shoot. Heck. Darn.
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It loving sucks that a lot of really good RPG history is now solely owned by Nazi failsons who had no part in its creation. I'd rather the Goodman model of not giving these fuckers anything and making things like CSIO and Caverns of Thracia available than totally memory holing these works.
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Lumbermouth posted:It loving sucks that a lot of really good RPG history is now solely owned by Nazi failsons who had no part in its creation. I'd rather the Goodman model of not giving these fuckers anything and making things like CSIO and Caverns of Thracia available than totally memory holing these works. If by "not giving them anything" you mean "talking them into donating royalties on one product, not at all mentioning all their other products, and continuing with their business relationship as if nothing changed" you might be describing the situation here! e: like, let me be clear, I have no loving sympathy for you that your choice is "well, either this RPG stuff I like is no longer purchasable, or a Nazi gets some of my money, HOW CAN I DECIDE" And further clear: Goodman Games is not divorcing themselves from the Nazis. Literally the opposite, they are playing PR so you won't notice them continuing that business relationship.
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Lumbermouth posted:It loving sucks that a lot of really good RPG history is now solely owned by Nazi failsons who had no part in its creation. I'd rather the Goodman model of not giving these fuckers anything and making things like CSIO and Caverns of Thracia available than totally memory holing these works.
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Hostile V posted:Oh no, the company that made Broncosaurus Rex would go bankrupt? Shoot. Heck. Darn. I think Goodman is a dumb freak but I wouldn't wish American bankruptcy on him. Making bad games and being an idiot doesn't deserve that kind of misery. That's why, to me, it's the only moral defense - and he didn't offer it.
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Oh, it's not my choice at all. I'm more lamenting the fact that two Nazis inherited some of the most important work in early RPGs, to which they contributed nothing, and tied that work to their racism and antisemitism. It's part of why I wish that piracy was a more accepted discussion in the tabletop space, because the optimal solution is hosting all of those old Judges Guild PDFs on the "gently caress Bobs Bledsaw II & II Memorial Google Drive" and letting the world have what they've corrupted.
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https://twitter.com/JennellAllyn/status/1229486512158330880 Jacquays has clarified the video somewhat, but there's still not a clear answer from Goodman on whether or not they will continue the relationship with Judges Guild. The more I think about it, the more that caginess is pissing me off.
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Goodman Games: "but we believe the nazi may, in time, be redeemed, by us continuing to work with him"
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Being interested in the history of this hobby continues to be a lovely decision. I wanted to try out The Fantasy Trip, before. Now it’s JG. Welp
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Monokeros deAstris posted:Being interested in the history of this hobby continues to be a lovely decision. I wanted to try out The Fantasy Trip, before. Now it’s JG. Welp I thought The Fantasy Trip was Steve Jackson Games (SJG) not Judges Guild (JG), did something happen in the last year?
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SJG decided to go with Frog God for some adventures for their TFT line, and Frog God's Bill Webb has a bit of a drinking and having to be pulled off women problem.
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Additionally, their official KS account made a comment in response to the Bill Webb situation. TL;DR: Despite the owner being a pest, Frog God still made good stuff so they'd continue working with them in the future.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:SJG decided to go with Frog God for some adventures for their TFT line, and Frog God's Bill Webb has a bit of a drinking and having to be pulled off women problem. And crucially SJG's official position was "we don't care, it's business."
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In case anyone's wondering, Frog God actually did say they'd not be working with Judges Guild and the Bledsaws in the future. Frog God managed to do this.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Goodman Games: "but we believe the nazi may, in time, be redeemed, by us continuing to work with him" I think you missed a nuance there. That was Jennell Jacquays who wrote most of Judge's Guild's best stuff back in the day (Dark Tower and Caverns of Thracia being the obvious ones) under her deadname. She understandably wants to write about this stuff and knows a lot more about it than the Nazi failson. This means (a) wants to write about work she did and is still justifiably proud of and (b) wants to not give money to Nazis (she calls herself an SJW). She has got both parts she wants - and the only way she is likely to work with Judge's Guild again or give them money is if they give her a chance to buy back the work for hire she did for the company that belonged to the father (I don't know if she would - but see no other conditions) Meanwhile Judge's Guild wants people to continue to work with them and to be rehabilitated. So giving away royalties is a small price to pay if it works. I don't think we've seen Goodman Games say what they are going to do going forward and whether they are ever going to start new projects with Judge's Guild or publish anything where JG would get royalties?
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moths posted:This industry has more nazis than our space program something something operation pen & paperclip
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