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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Lote posted:

What are the Chinese authorities doing that allows them such good control even with people delivering food apartment to apartment?

How are they able to show a decrease in deaths when deaths lag infections by 2 weeks?

The answer is that Chinese authorities aren't diagnosing people who self-quarantine, and therefore aren't reporting deaths that occur at home as part of the coronavirus tallies. And that's assuming that their numbers aren't just completely fabricated

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Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

Dustcat posted:

how can someone be sick if a few days ago they were healthy

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

QuarkJets posted:

The answer is that Chinese authorities aren't diagnosing people who self-quarantine, and therefore aren't reporting deaths that occur at home as part of the coronavirus tallies. And that's assuming that their numbers aren't just completely fabricated

Not to mention if you have thousands of people not being tested in areas like cramped apartment buildings it pretty much creates a fog of war for the case history and data trending.

The hospitals also sound like they are getting overwhelmed despite the surge activity by the CCP.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

QuarkJets posted:

The answer is that Chinese authorities aren't diagnosing people who self-quarantine, and therefore aren't reporting deaths that occur at home as part of the coronavirus tallies. And that's assuming that their numbers aren't just completely fabricated

Wuhan is being abandoned and left to the ghosts, the new residents of that beautiful city.

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde

ok has anyone tried to predict the future by looking at old trump tweets

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1229521542465441793?s=19

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

iphones

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/02/investor-update-on-quarterly-guidance/

quote:

Our quarterly guidance issued on January 28, 2020 reflected the best information available at the time as well as our best estimates about the pace of return to work following the end of the extended Chinese New Year holiday on February 10. Work is starting to resume around the country, but we are experiencing a slower return to normal conditions than we had anticipated. As a result, we do not expect to meet the revenue guidance we provided for the March quarter due to two main factors.
The first is that worldwide iPhone supply will be temporarily constrained. While our iPhone manufacturing partner sites are located outside the Hubei province — and while all of these facilities have reopened — they are ramping up more slowly than we had anticipated. The health and well-being of every person who helps make these products possible is our paramount priority, and we are working in close consultation with our suppliers and public health experts as this ramp continues. These iPhone supply shortages will temporarily affect revenues worldwide.
The second is that demand for our products within China has been affected. All of our stores in China and many of our partner stores have been closed. Additionally, stores that are open have been operating at reduced hours and with very low customer traffic. We are gradually reopening our retail stores and will continue to do so as steadily and safely as we can. Our corporate offices and contact centers in China are open, and our online stores have remained open throughout.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

it’s gonna be loving amazing to see Americans on social media responding to their first ever experience of not having access to every consumer product on the planet

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I just found out the Indonesians are still eating bats, no wonder there is no infected reported over there. They have been eating the virus and growing antibodies since millennia.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

it’s gonna be loving amazing to see Americans on social media responding to their first ever experience of not having access to every consumer product on the planet

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
PhD econ. Chief Economist of GnS Economics. Adj. Professor of Economics @ Uni Helsinki.
Economic growth, economic crises, monetary unions and central banks.

https://twitter.com/mtmalinen/status/1229417987846934530?s=19

yada yada yada...

https://twitter.com/mtmalinen/status/1229418028833607681?s=19

twoday fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 18, 2020

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Scrub-Niggurath posted:

it’s gonna be loving amazing to see Americans on social media responding to their first ever experience of not having access to every consumer product on the planet

So many telling people to check the back room and let me talk to your managers

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer

On the one hand, everyone there wears masks already.

On the other hand, a lot of Japanese bosses do not give a poo poo if you're sick and will order you to take the crowded public transit to sit at your desk in the communal open office.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24973518-relax-it-s-just-the-flu

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Bakanogami posted:

On the one hand, everyone there wears masks already.

On the other hand, a lot of Japanese bosses do not give a poo poo if you're sick and will order you to take the crowded public transit to sit at your desk in the communal open office.

The surgical masks barely do anything. Worse people are constantly touching their face to adjust them or the glasses which fog up because of the masks. Also putting them in their pockets then re-wearing them. I’m really really unsure whether these surgical masks aren’t a net detriment because they make you more careless on top of the other stuff.

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

I've posted this a couple of times, but the Baric Lab has postulated (and I say postulated because these claims have not understood peer review(TM)) that coronaviruses have become more common because they are simply more successful with transmitting among older populations

This death curve is uh :chloe:

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

FULL SPACE SUITS NOW

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Lightning Knight posted:

strongly reconsidering if we shouldn’t stan a virus that primarily kills boomers and gen xers rn

mosey on over, Legionnaire's disease, we've got a new game in town

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005





Lol forever this is the biggest company in the world talking about the most popular consumer product in the world

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

BONGHITZ posted:

FULL SPACE SUITS NOW

https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1229430571014615041?s=20

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

twoday posted:

PhD econ. Chief Economist of GnS Economics. Adj. Professor of Economics @ Uni Helsinki.
Economic growth, economic crises, monetary unions and central banks.

https://twitter.com/mtmalinen/status/1229417987846934530?s=19

yada yada yada...

https://twitter.com/mtmalinen/status/1229418028833607681?s=19

:hmmyes: I'm sure this time the recession is really starting any day now!

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




BONGHITZ posted:

FULL SPACE SUITS NOW

fully automated luxury gay space suits

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

mobby_6kl posted:

:hmmyes: I'm sure this time the recession is really starting any day now!

number has taken on a life of its own and cannot be stopped

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

mobby_6kl posted:

:hmmyes: I'm sure this time the recession is really starting any day now!

The outbreak actually affected production and not just funny money, which is what makes it real

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Homeless Friend posted:

The outbreak actually affected production and not just funny money, which is what makes it real

Yeah, my company is already making plans on how to handle reduced output. cars are a big enough business to keep going, lots of smaller poo poo is gonna just shut down though.

However compared to the bubble crashing and poo poo, this will hopefully than recover once the situation stabilizes.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice

No thanks, I'll stick to optimistic pandemic fiction

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Today's top story:

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Bakanogami posted:

On the one hand, everyone there wears masks already.

On the other hand, a lot of Japanese bosses do not give a poo poo if you're sick and will order you to take the crowded public transit to sit at your desk in the communal open office.

it also seems a little misleading to count the boat, which is like the optimal breeding ground

Backweb
Feb 14, 2009

Apple and economists:
"lol prepare for ungood figures because of this"

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229560138710814723

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001


quote:

As always in my stories there is no foul language or sex though there is some violence.

hurting people: good
making new people: bad

Gareth Gobulcoque
Jan 10, 2008



Homeless Friend posted:

The outbreak actually affected production and not just funny money, which is what makes it real

You're assuming the economy is tethered to reality in some way

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

manufacturing and shipping will probably be some of the earlier things to recover, it’s all the industries funded and planned around infinite future economic growth that will be crushed

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

https://twitter.com/Sun_Zhenlong/status/1229490704285487104?s=20

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Scrub-Niggurath posted:

manufacturing and shipping will probably be some of the earlier things to recover, it’s all the industries funded and planned around infinite future economic growth that will be crushed

good.

infinite growth will be the end of our species. we need to move to a stable- or negative-growth economy asap.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



eh this includes the cruise ship tho which really throws it off

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

eh this includes the cruise ship tho which really throws it off

yeah, the stats for japan are 60+ or 500+ depending on how you count

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

eh this includes the cruise ship tho which really throws it off

source: Reddit and eversnuffley

lol

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
60+ for a country with so many olds really doesn’t sound good either though.

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
imo it's pretty telling that despite the potential long incubation periods we haven't really seen any self-sustaining outbreaks (yet?) in other countries, and we haven't really even seen warning signs of them (since most people show symptoms after 3-5 days, if an outbreak was starting we would be able to see it much quicker) despite it being ~3 weeks now since international cases started being reported in noteworthy numbers. Disregarding environments like cruise ships that are perfect breeding grounds for disease, it seems like most of the world is (so far!) escaping pretty much unscathed.

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