UKMT February 2020 - horny for shepherdess feet

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Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Ms Adequate posted:

Mods please I'm begging you

Another forum name change request?

(Sorry.)

E: In November 1989 the Berlin Wall fell. This was in the main a good thing, but it did remove the handy dividing line to show where all the AfD voters live.

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feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

big scary monsters posted:

There are plenty other difficulties with moving abroad, but I think people overestimate the language barrier. Basically any large city in Central or Northern Europe is going to be completely fine to live in speaking only English.

Having done this in Oslo...sooort of. Yes anyone will understand you if you speak English so the supermarket is no problem. But if you're down the pub socialising for instance everyone is speaking Norwegian so you can't join the conversation. It becomes isolating.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:26

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Jedit posted:

E: In November 1989 the Berlin Wall fell. This was in the main a good thing, but it did remove the handy dividing line to show where all the AfD voters live.

And history ended!

thespaceinvader posted:

You assume anyone would notice other than the people who want to actually use it.

Also the Tories are planning to make trespassing and camping criminal offences now, which they have never been for reasons that should be blindingly obvious under Common Law, but never deterred by even the judges and coppers calling them stupid their sense of "gently caress the Travellers" burns ever brighter, so that's going to lead to some 'fun' public right of way cases.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:27

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/?ref=redirect#!/BM0OkipgbeBNfcONKihf

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:27

Ash Crimson: Apr 4, 2010

endlessmonotony posted:

Ash may be disagreeable but there's certainly good reasons to be that way in the current situation, and the logic is solid.

I've seen very few arguments that independence would turn Scotland into a socialist wonderland.

Scottish independence is, to a very large degree, about getting the hell away from English nationalism, especially now.

The Tories will absolutely do everything in their power to erase devolved powers and try to make Scottish independence into an impossible idea.

And where you can argue that Scottish independence isn't consistent with the overall goal of international socialism, none of you have put forward an argument that explains on how the Scots passing up their chance of independence helps anyone but the Tories in any way, shape or form. If they do it under a Labour government, then sure, that's less true, but I don't think they can afford to wait that long.

Nobody can afford to wait for Labour to save the day.

It's not really any different from the empty slogan of Cameron's "we are all in this together"

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:30

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1229830928169611265?s=20

Some funny replies to that.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:45

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

WhatEvil posted:

I don't take issue with green spaces etc. and I don't actually necessarily think that golf courses should be the first thing we build on, but they're green spaces which are only enjoyed by a privileged few, which is a bit poo poo.

98% of golf courses are completely empty far more often than they have people playing

you can just walk round them and no-one will give a gently caress as long as you're not letting your dog poo poo in the bunkers

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:54

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Jedit posted:

Another forum name change request?

Always. If I had my way I'd change my name four times a day.

Also I wanted to go back to talking about FALGSC. I don't know if we have enough to fully bring everyone up to current first-world standards, but we could certainly do a great deal to make life fairer, globally, by massive economic and political restructuring. I think sometimes despite being leftists we overlook just how much is wasted on shite that could be spent better, and I'm not talking about smartphones. One of the very arguments being made is of course that we don't need to and shouldn't want to bring everyone up to today's conception of wealth and luxury, which is true to an extent (Though I am leery of arguments that get too close to "Oh you don't actually like [thing] it's just capitalism has told you you should like it" because no, there's no circumstances in which I wouldn't love videos game or some descendent thereof), but more importantly we could do an incredible amount to help the global south if we just treated them fairly. Literally that alone would be enough to help a lot of people do a lot better in material terms. Of course, capitalism necessarily precludes fairness, which is why we need radical and global changes.

So;
Treat them fairly.
Help install and grow technological bases by sharing we have that's most clean and efficient.
Maybe if we spent the money currently going into the military on healthcare, sanitation, and education?

Even that much would be a massive change that would bring the wealth of the world up vastly, and we haven't even got into the issues of reparations or guillotining the rich and distributing their ill-gotten gains to those who actually mined the ore and assembled the phones and transported everything. Nor, indeed, have we really touched on the potential for automation technologies, though it's somewhat related to the second point it's also an important and distinct issue that could already have dramatically changed the world but instead has dramatically increased the wealth of the 0.01%.

I'm not saying everyone could live like a billionaire, or even a millionaire, but I struggle to believe that we couldn't get everyone up to a level roughly akin to a comfortable level that the average person from a developed country would be pretty okay with. And if we began to develop on that with specific intentions in mind, and the ability to plan and execute over the medium and long term (Rather than just the next quarter or elected term as finance and liberal capitalism demand) we could work on improving that further and doing so without environmental catastrophe.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:56

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

WhatEvil posted:

Anyway in other news:

https://twitter.com/AhirShah/status/1229832568822009856?s=20

Lol.

lol

feedmegin posted:

Having done this in Oslo...sooort of. Yes anyone will understand you if you speak English so the supermarket is no problem. But if you're down the pub socialising for instance everyone is speaking Norwegian so you can't join the conversation. It becomes isolating.

Yeah that's true - I've experienced the awkwardness of everyone in a group has to speak a foreign language just for my benefit, and even the most generous people will tend to switch back to their own tongue if they're not addressing you directly. I definitely think it's a good idea to learn the local language once you're there, I just don't think it's as huge a barrier as most people expect. Hanging out with fellow recent immigrants is a good way to get around the social problem to some degree, because they're feeling similarly excluded, might not have a solid social network in place yet either, and are looking to make friends - even if English isn't their first language they're often more comfortable with it than the local one.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:03

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
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Hello, dear

Julio Cruz posted:

98% of golf courses are completely empty far more often than they have people playing

you can just walk round them and no-one will give a gently caress as long as you're not letting your dog poo poo in the bunkers

What if you want to poo poo in the bunkers (asking for a friend)

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:03

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Forgive me for going off on a CSPAM-like tangent about this, but:

The worst period for wage growth in the last 200 years.

Conservatives: Good For The Economy^TM

But it's okay! Such a temporary fall in wages is a reasonable cost for implementing wide-ranging socialist policies, like, uhh. Umm.

The Great British Public: Oh wow let's elect these cunts for five more years! Except even more rabid and nationalist, I'm sure it will work out fine.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:04

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

Though I am leery of arguments that get too close to "Oh you don't actually like [thing] it's just capitalism has told you you should like it" because no, there's no circumstances in which I wouldn't love videos game or some descendent thereof

It's not so much that you wouldn't like video games if there were no consumer electronics industry, although that's a thing that tautologically true, it's that consumerism employs a whole ton of psychoanalyses to get people to want next thing, or different thing.

A better society would have more community oriented ways of providing fulfillment.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:08

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

crispix posted:

What if you want to poo poo in the bunkers (asking for a friend)

do it under cover of darkness

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:08

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Guavanaut posted:

It's not so much that you wouldn't like video games if there were no consumer electronics industry, although that's a thing that tautologically true, it's that consumerism employs a whole ton of psychoanalyses to get people to want next thing, or different thing.

A better society would have more community oriented ways of providing fulfillment.

Multiplayer is haraam.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:10

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

WhatEvil posted:

I don't take issue with green spaces etc. and I don't actually necessarily think that golf courses should be the first thing we build on, but they're green spaces which are only enjoyed by a privileged few, which is a bit poo poo.

Anyway in other news:

https://twitter.com/AhirShah/status/1229832568822009856?s=20

Lol.

we saves 'em, we keeps 'em

What do you mean that's theft?

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:17

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Can't wait for the unrelenting tide of "Britain has lost its marbles!!" from fubpees

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:18

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

Multiplayer is haraam.

Oh I saw this earlier and thought Ms A should see this so now you have to.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:24

bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1229830928169611265?s=20

Some funny replies to that.

Drench me EUDaddy!

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:25

NinpoEspiritoSanto: Oct 22, 2013

Ratjaculation posted:

we saves 'em, we keeps 'em

What do you mean that's theft?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:40

Samovar: Jun 4, 2011; I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻

WhatEvil posted:

I don't take issue with green spaces etc. and I don't actually necessarily think that golf courses should be the first thing we build on, but they're green spaces which are only enjoyed by a privileged few, which is a bit poo poo.

Anyway in other news:

https://twitter.com/AhirShah/status/1229832568822009856?s=20

Lol.

GLORIOUS

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:41

Isomermaid: Dec 3, 2019; Swish swish, like a fish

Guavanaut posted:

Oh I saw this earlier and thought Ms A should see this so now you have to.

Hey there with the abnormal geometries. Wanna make those spheres redolent. Ph'dang

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:53

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

WhatEvil posted:

I don't take issue with green spaces etc. and I don't actually necessarily think that golf courses should be the first thing we build on, but they're green spaces which are only enjoyed by a privileged few, which is a bit poo poo.

Presumably if they're being sold they're not keeping it as a golf course and it could become a park instead.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:03

Pilchenstein: May 17, 2012; So your plan is for half of us to die?; Hot Rope Guy

Bundy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73PkUvArJY

I highly recommend everyone watch this series on Netflix, it's some incredibly well-crafted stand up :v:

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:09

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

interesting news, but not unexpected.
Andrew Murray has quit his advisory role in the Labour leadership office to go back to full time at his Unite gig

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:17

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Let's play another fun game of complete the headline, goons!

Wait, let's not. :ohno:

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:31

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Only semi-related to anything being discussed here other than my own theories that London is better than everywhere else, but came across this line on wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparrows_Can%27t_Sing posted:

The dialogue is a mixture of Cockney rhyming slang, London Yiddish, and thieves' cant. The New York Times, in its review said "this isn't a picture for anyone with a logical mind or an ear for language. The gabble of cockney spoken here is as incomprehensible as the reasoning of those who speak it."[6] It was also the first English language film to be released in the United States with subtitles.[7]

:crying-pie-and-mash-emoji: Cockneys were baffling Americans almost half a century before Trainspotting.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:34

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Ms Adequate posted:

The greatest shame of the 20th century was not doing Operation Unthinkable,

Because you think the USSR would win or....???

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:37

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

It's also on archive.org if anyone is interested in the language of these people:
https://archive.org/details/Sparrows.Cant.Sing.1963.720pSparrows.Cant.Sing.1963

e: Cockneys, not the USSR. However the USSR would certainly have won, especially if the USA had noped out after Japan capitulated.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:39

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

It's also on archive.org if anyone is interested in the language of these people:
https://archive.org/details/Sparrows.Cant.Sing.1963.720pSparrows.Cant.Sing.1963

It's a great little film but also an absolute time capsule in both the plot ("A woman... who wants to decide what to do with her own life?!?!?") and the setting, an East End still half-destroyed by the Blitz and still not really sure what to do next.

Also an absolute who's who of light comedy actors of the 70s (Barbra Windsor stars in her first major role playing the role she has played literally ever since, Roy Kinnear, George and Mildred, Blakey off On The Buses (who also wrote it)), and a cameo from the Kray Twins (who allegedly bankrolled the film) and - at their insistence - Queenie Watts (who was definitely a much bigger star in the East End than anyone else in the film).

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:44

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

namesake posted:

Because you think the USSR would win or....???

Read the rest of her post. It's not entirely serious.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:45

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Guavanaut posted:

It's also on archive.org if anyone is interested in the language of these people:
https://archive.org/details/Sparrows.Cant.Sing.1963.720pSparrows.Cant.Sing.1963

e: Cockneys, not the USSR. However the USSR would certainly have won, especially if the USA had noped out after Japan capitulated.

this is extremely not difficult to follow, i was expecting much worse.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:47

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Barbra Windsor stars in her first major role playing the role she has played literally ever since

I was going to say, I got a huge sense of deja vu when she first spoke.

CoolCab posted:

this is extremely not difficult to follow, i was expecting much worse.

I think London accents (and accents in general) have become a lot more mutually understandable by broadcast media osmosis over the past 60 years, maybe it would have seemed worse for Americans at the time idk.

My grandad had several stories about how he had to act as an interpreter between Geordies and English during the 30s, like they were not mutually intelligible, and my dad had one about American investors in the 70s coming to London and getting a tour of sites up to Liverpool. They lost the ability to keep track of the spoken word somewhere around Coventry. There's probably some exaggeration there, but having a range of accents in news media, popular entertainment, etc. trains the ear.

I'm also pretty sure this is taking the direct piss out of standard East End movies being subtitled for the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73d6h_go7QI

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:02

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Geordies can be really hard to understand, I worked with a guy once who was almost completely unintelligible and looked like one of the chuckle brothers.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:13

Ash Crimson: Apr 4, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Geordies can be really hard to understand, I worked with a guy once who was almost completely unintelligible and looked like one of the chuckle brothers.

Geordies are some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:15

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

He was nice sure I just couldn't understand half the stuff that came out of his mouth.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:17

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Darth Walrus posted:

Read the rest of her post. It's not entirely serious.

Oops. I read good.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:39

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Guavanaut posted:

Oh I saw this earlier and thought Ms A should see this so now you have to.

(But also lol)

namesake posted:

Because you think the USSR would win or....???

Oh I just think comboing straight from the largest war in human history into an even larger one would be the galaxy brain move.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:39

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Ms Adequate posted:

Oh I just think comboing straight from the largest war in human history into an even larger one would be the galaxy brain move.

Yeah sorry I am not posting good tonight. I'm still a bit tired from the weekend it seems.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:43

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

lol, I did think as much

# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:46

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Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah I was thinking something similar as I posted it. It could also be a sign of the kind of insularity we ended up with, just not caring about stuff coming from outside.

For me the real disappointment of Corbynism was all this stuff we assumed was going on: great ground game, building grassroots, alternate media, getting new people in as successors.

It seems like that wasn't actually happening after all, or was being attempted but not working. The ground game was decent but majorly mistook enthusiastic corbynistas for grassroots support.

For me that's the fundamental issue, what did we actually accomplish, what do we continue with and what is a lost cause or needs changing?
It's why though I'm voting RLB I'm not convinced by the "vote RLB to continue democratisation and leftifying the Labour Party" because I'm not sure what the 5 years we just did of that accomplished and much more crucially I'm not sure I trust the RLB team (or anyone else) to know what direction to go either.

I don't have much to add, but I thought this was an excellent post on a topic that doesn't really get discussed all that much, but should. There's a lot of assumptions about all the great stuff that RLB is definitely going to do to radically reshape the party, but as far as I can tell a lot of it is just people having huge faith in the power of open selections to be transformative

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