Lets Reinstall Morrowind: You can't post here. Enemies are nearby.

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Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

Firemoth was good as an early taster/warning of the fine enemy variety, dungeon design and balance that awaited in the Tribunal sewers

# ? Feb 17, 2020 12:25

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:15

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

kirbysuperstar posted:

Same but I think my brain decided to play jokes on me by removing the 's' from West

CHIMHub: N'wah gets shipped to Seyda Neen, hosed by a scrib! HD

Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:

Firemoth might get annexed by TR in the future, vanilla firemoth is incompatible with TR but even the fixed version isnt fun

I assume the version you linked me is compatible? :ohdear:

# ? Feb 17, 2020 13:44

Mooktastical: Jan 8, 2008

hooah posted:

Actually, it is still installed, silly me. What else might be going wrong?

There should also be UL_WeaponRotate_Addon.esp, and it should load after the Weapon Rotate ESP and the main UL ESP as well. If that's the case, I'm out of ideas. Maybe send Stuporstar a PM if you have Plat.

# ? Feb 17, 2020 17:33

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

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Lunchmeat Larry posted:

Firemoth was good as an early taster/warning of the fine enemy variety, dungeon design and balance that awaited in the Tribunal sewers

And arguably ever since oblivion came out.

# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:21

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

Agents are GO! posted:

I assume the version you linked me is compatible?

Yes

# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:41

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

So it just occurs to me, having done the Seyda Neen tax collector quest for like the billionth time, that when Foryn Gilnith is talking about how Processus was flaunting his new jewelry, he probably was referring to the ring he got as a gift from the lighthouse lady.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 07:58

kazr: Jan 28, 2005

Agents are GO! posted:

So it just occurs to me, having done the Seyda Neen tax collector quest for like the billionth time, that when Foryn Gilnith is talking about how Processus was flaunting his new jewelry, he probably was referring to the ring he got as a gift from the lighthouse lady.

Hell yeah!

# ? Feb 18, 2020 10:55

kazr: Jan 28, 2005

Imperial dog had it coming to him. Always put the poop stained prisoners clothes on his corpse, the swit

# ? Feb 18, 2020 10:56

Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

I can probably trace the evolution of my political beliefs based on my reaction to the taxman quest over the years

# ? Feb 18, 2020 14:06

Analytic Engine: May 18, 2009; not the analytical engine

every Morrowind proper noun is awesome

# ? Feb 18, 2020 14:09

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

Firemoth is hilarious and if you dislike it you hate fun.

I like Bitter Coast Sounds too

# ? Feb 18, 2020 14:21

Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

I can probably trace the evolution of my political beliefs based on my reaction to the taxman quest over the years

For me yeah my changing political beliefs have altered how I look at the Dunmer and Empire (still an Imperial loyalist by the by).

In the past I was always like "yeah I get why the Dunmer don't like the Empire but hey, it was a matter of 400 years ago so it's settled."

Now I look at it and just think "look Dunmer you hate the Empire because you're xenophobic assholes who think you're better than everyone else and practice literal slavery, I have zero actual sympathy for you and because of your slaving ways you deserve this poo poo because even outright imperialism is better than what you get up to when left to your own devices."

# ? Feb 18, 2020 16:36

Jay Rust: Sep 27, 2011

Ah yes, the Imperial Man�s burden

# ? Feb 18, 2020 16:48

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Sky Shadowing posted:

For me yeah my changing political beliefs have altered how I look at the Dunmer and Empire (still an Imperial loyalist by the by).

In the past I was always like "yeah I get why the Dunmer don't like the Empire but hey, it was a matter of 400 years ago so it's settled."

Now I look at it and just think "look Dunmer you hate the Empire because you're xenophobic assholes who think you're better than everyone else and practice literal slavery, I have zero actual sympathy for you and because of your slaving ways you deserve this poo poo because even outright imperialism is better than what you get up to when left to your own devices."

Wealth beyond measure, outlander.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 16:48

Vichan: Oct 1, 2014; I'LL PUNISH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR CRIME

Sky Shadowing posted:

For me yeah my changing political beliefs have altered how I look at the Dunmer and Empire (still an Imperial loyalist by the by).

In the past I was always like "yeah I get why the Dunmer don't like the Empire but hey, it was a matter of 400 years ago so it's settled."

Now I look at it and just think "look Dunmer you hate the Empire because you're xenophobic assholes who think you're better than everyone else and practice literal slavery, I have zero actual sympathy for you and because of your slaving ways you deserve this poo poo because even outright imperialism is better than what you get up to when left to your own devices."

One of Morrowind's biggest missed opportunities is that the Twin Lamps faction isn't fleshed out more. In almost every playthrough I get carried away trying to free any slave I can by any means, even if I'm playing as a Telvanni.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:04

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Dim Brain: I see nothing wrong with these slave pens.

Bright Brain: I must free everyone in the slave pens.

Galaxy Brain: Slave pens are an opportunity for easy weapon/spell leveling.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:07

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

Sky Shadowing posted:

For me yeah my changing political beliefs have altered how I look at the Dunmer and Empire (still an Imperial loyalist by the by).

In the past I was always like "yeah I get why the Dunmer don't like the Empire but hey, it was a matter of 400 years ago so it's settled."

Now I look at it and just think "look Dunmer you hate the Empire because you're xenophobic assholes who think you're better than everyone else and practice literal slavery, I have zero actual sympathy for you and because of your slaving ways you deserve this poo poo because even outright imperialism is better than what you get up to when left to your own devices."

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:13

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

Morrowind presents the odd situation where rooting for the colonialists isnt necessarily the wrong option considering what its replacing

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:17

Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

Sky Shadowing posted:

For me yeah my changing political beliefs have altered how I look at the Dunmer and Empire (still an Imperial loyalist by the by).

In the past I was always like "yeah I get why the Dunmer don't like the Empire but hey, it was a matter of 400 years ago so it's settled."

Now I look at it and just think "look Dunmer you hate the Empire because you're xenophobic assholes who think you're better than everyone else and practice literal slavery, I have zero actual sympathy for you and because of your slaving ways you deserve this poo poo because even outright imperialism is better than what you get up to when left to your own devices."

ah, the Dunmer are the Irish

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:17

Babe Magnet: Jun 2, 2008

in the sense that they were being owned to death by Blights, yes

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:20

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Vvardenfell was exporting ash yams even during a famine!

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:33

Jay Rust: Sep 27, 2011

The imperials didn�t abolish slavery in Morrowind so I don�t know why we�re praising them at all

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:43

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Jay Rust posted:

The imperials didn’t abolish slavery in Morrowind so I don’t know why we’re praising them at all

They respect the native culture. Are you saying they should erase native peoples???

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:44

Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

Babe Magnet posted:

in the sense that they were being owned to death by Blights, yes

a barbaric people who cannot be trusted on their own devices lest they resort to backwards reactionism
idolise redheaded queens and warrior poets
divided by sectarian rivalries that require a deep understanding of historical events which roughly 10% of them actually understand
gloomy
really into saints
corrupt, politically untouchable church
sinister racist streak
lots of poems about kicking the empire out, distinct lack of direct action
many of them blindly follow the commands of a powerful, ancient priest in a stupid hat
90% of the population is either 200 years old or just looks like that
three political parties, two of which are colonist bootlickers or completely irrelevant to some extent, one of which is inherently pretty cool but is torn between promising progressive elements and insane old people who may or may not be evil wizards
great canon of books written by alcoholics and drug addicts, beloved by internet nerds
all the reptiles were driven out by a saint

Lunchmeat Larry fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Feb 18, 2020

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:52

Kassad: Nov 12, 2005; It's about time.

Is that list about Ireland anymore, or about Brexit Britain?

# ? Feb 18, 2020 17:55

Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

Kassad posted:

Is that list about Ireland anymore, or about Brexit Britain?

that would imply that 10% of British people are good or at least normal looking, which is untrue

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:05

Leal: Oct 2, 2009

Chomp8645 posted:

Galaxy Brain: Slave pens are an opportunity for easy weapon/spell leveling.

Hhhhmmmmmm.....

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:31

Orv: May 4, 2011

Sure are some posts.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:32

Sky Shadowing: Feb 13, 2012; At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Jay Rust posted:

The imperials didn’t abolish slavery in Morrowind so I don’t know why we’re praising them at all

They actually are turning a blind eye towards the Twin Lamps (which infuriates House Telvanni) and presumably take advantage of the chaos after the Nerevarine comes through to utilize their puppet king Helseth to abolish it.

I don't think the Empire's perfect but compared to House Telvanni, who I have a hard time arguing aren't basically the Sith, House Hlaalu, who have suckled onto the Empire like some disgusting parasite in order to have their cake and eat it too while STILL very much employing slaves, and the Temple, who is very much a church in dire need of reformation at the time of TES3, they're pretty much a light shade of the morally gray and gray pastiche of Morrowind politics.

Redorans and Ashlanders are pretty cool, though, morally. Some of them, at least.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:43

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Sky Shadowing posted:

Redorans and Ashlanders are pretty cool, though, morally. Some of them, at least.

*Thinks about that Ashlander chief whose quest is to bring him a woman to marry. Doesn't care when he finds out it's a slave you dressed up, he's just happy she's thicc.*

*Thinks about that other Ashlander chief whom you just have to kill, because he's an rear end in a top hat who just wants to fight people*

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:48

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Morrowind is actually very problematic when you think about it.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:49

Alikchi: Aug 18, 2010; Thumbs up I agree

Vichan posted:

One of Morrowind's biggest missed opportunities is that the Twin Lamps faction isn't fleshed out more. In almost every playthrough I get carried away trying to free any slave I can by any means, even if I'm playing as a Telvanni.

I always enjoyed Juniper's Twin Lamps mod but it broke on the Rabinna escort quest for me last playthrough so YMMV. Still worth looking into imo.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:55

Jay Rust: Sep 27, 2011

Uncle Crassius is a lovable sex pest, dumpling

# ? Feb 18, 2020 18:56

Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Pretty sure Redoran and all their traditional Dunmer values are pro-slavery.

But the main reason the imperials haven't gotten rid of it is because they can't (or can't feasibly) conquer Morrowind. I'm sure it'd be as illegal as everywhere else in the empire if they were really in charge.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:09

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

The Imperials keep it around because it's highly lucrative for them. The imperials, Hlaalu and the Cammona Tong are all putting forth different and opposed facades but are all working together to profit as much as they can from selling products produced in the Ascadian Isles by slaves to the rest of the Empire. Imperial support of the twin lamps is like coffee companies creating a 'fair trade' label, it just means they have an easier time selling slave grown hackle-lo to bleeding heart Bretons.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:52

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Reminder, England, which had banned slavery decades before, actively supported the Confederate states, partly just to weaken America, but also because they loved the cheap cotton.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:55

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

I only get stoned out of my gourd on ethically sourced skooma.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 20:55

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Don't forget either that slavery is perfectly legal in the Empire during this period, you simply have to have raised all your slaves from the dead.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:10

Fantastic Foreskin: Jan 6, 2013; A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

The Imperials keep it around because it's highly lucrative for them. The imperials, Hlaalu and the Cammona Tong are all putting forth different and opposed facades but are all working together to profit as much as they can from selling products produced in the Ascadian Isles by slaves to the rest of the Empire. Imperial support of the twin lamps is like coffee companies creating a 'fair trade' label, it just means they have an easier time selling slave grown hackle-lo to bleeding heart Bretons.

Yup. Man, it's been a long time since I actually read anything in this game.

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:36

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Jay Rust: Sep 27, 2011

Such a good game

# ? Feb 18, 2020 21:43

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