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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

LifeSunDeath posted:

This reminds me of the time my gf and I were curious wtf ham radio operators even talk about...so we looked up some videos and people were either taking it way to seriously or using it for a sort of open mic comedy session, but on average they just talk about what radios their using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4VbtdEPmw

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Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



I got into ham radios once but got cold feet before I could get my license because there's an easily-accessible directory of your name and address and just never took my test. I know that's necessary for the radio cops/FCC to enforce the regulations but no thanks.

I still think ham radios are cool as hell. The local ham club is just a bunch of old dudes and the membership dwindles yearly so that's a shame. I personally know several of them are old white racists so that's a bummer and also a reason I'd never want to talk with any of them. I only had a 2 meter radio and a J antenna so I wouldn't have much range and would've just had to hear old dudes farting and talking about Obama and the weather and how Obama controlled the weather. I kinda share the fascination with the weather and probably would've talked with them about weather stations or some dumb poo poo mostly.

My favorite thing about ham radios is that the more experienced ham radio operators are called Elmers.

Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 10:55 on Feb 19, 2020

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Pretty good posted:

I never used Soulseek until like three or four years ago when whatcd bit it and my verdict is that it is insanely good and I'm grateful that the rest of the world is on spotify etc now so it's presumably pretty unlikely to catch heat and get pushed offline.

I've been curating the same mp3 library continuously since 2003 now and I'm never gonna stop :corsair:

Since late 1996 here. First songs I had were Virtual Insanity, Cosmic Girl, Hand in my Pocket, Ironic, and You Oughtta Know.

The first album I ripped myself was Green Day's Dookie, using cdda2wav and l3enc. Still have it and a few other rips from that time in the library.

Fraunhofer's reference encoder sounded awesome in 128Kbit joint stereo cbr, remember? That Xing thing, it was kinda crap in comparison but mostly due to having poo poo defaults (112Kbps, IIRC, which makes cymbals sound hazy, lump and warbly)

ne: Forgot quote!

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Zereth posted:

I believe the original said "Ninja", not "Ham"

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

LOL. UHHH GREAT BONG HIT THERE FOUR TWO ZERO SIX NINER, OVER.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Unperson_47 posted:

I got into ham radios once but got cold feet before I could get my license because there's an easily-accessible directory of your name and address and just never took my test.

What exactly was your concern with this? There's a directory of thousands of names and addresses and somebody will... just randomly say "Huh that guy's name seems interesting, I guess I'll harass him now"? Drive to your city and murder you, a stranger whose name he disliked?

Just don't post your callsign on e.g. your SA account unless you want to associate it with your real name, of course.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pham Nuwen posted:

What exactly was your concern with this? There's a directory of thousands of names and addresses and somebody will... just randomly say "Huh that guy's name seems interesting, I guess I'll harass him now"? Drive to your city and murder you, a stranger whose name he disliked?

Just don't post your callsign on e.g. your SA account unless you want to associate it with your real name, of course.

Getting your name and address published in an open directory has never been a good thing for privacy.

The Internet has largely expanded the open directory to cover everyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Platystemon posted:

Getting your name and address published in an open directory has never been a good thing for privacy.

The Internet has largely expanded the open directory to cover everyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

Googling my own name will return half a dozen sites that show my correct current address (and past addresses, and family members) plus the addresses of many other people who share my name but have a different middle initial, so the cat's rather out of the bag for many people.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Platystemon posted:

Getting your name and address published in an open directory has never been a good thing for privacy.

As Sarah Connor can attest to.

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!
It's worth mentioning that the FCC really only cares about having a valid mailing address.

If you're really that paranoid, just get a P.O. Box.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



xergm posted:

It's worth mentioning that the FCC really only cares about having a valid mailing address.

If you're really that paranoid, just get a P.O. Box.

I thought it had to be a physical address so it's different now that I know it can be a mailing address but that was 5+ years ago so I think that ship has sailed for now.

Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 20:44 on Feb 19, 2020

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li699Qflv3g

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Pham Nuwen posted:

What exactly was your concern with this? There's a directory of thousands of names and addresses and somebody will... just randomly say "Huh that guy's name seems interesting, I guess I'll harass him now"? Drive to your city and murder you, a stranger whose name he disliked?

Just don't post your callsign on e.g. your SA account unless you want to associate it with your real name, of course.

I mean, not everyone might be a him and that might make getting harassed much more likely. Given the prevalence of doxxing online making things that much easier is also not a great idea. And, of course, the chance that someone really will do that - with thousands of names, it makes it more and more likely to get a brokebrain person who lives within harassment distance of you.


Now I'll tell a funny joke to make up for this party pooper post. How does the police dispatcher know when ham crimes has been committed? "officer down!"

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013

Pham Nuwen posted:

What exactly was your concern with this? There's a directory of thousands of names and addresses and somebody will... just randomly say "Huh that guy's name seems interesting, I guess I'll harass him now"? Drive to your city and murder you, a stranger whose name he disliked?

Ham radio operators are legally obligated to identify themselves by their callsign whenever they transmit. The database is publicly accessible, so anyone and everyone can look up your callsign and get your name and address.

So it just takes one weirdo taking offense to your opinion / accent / fact you're transmitting on the same frequency and surprise! You've got a creepy stalker / harasser now.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


How often would that actually happen though?

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
Sure having your name and address out there isn’t fun, but ham radio companies will send you cool radio/electronics catalogs in the mail too.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Kwyndig posted:

How often would that actually happen though?

I've been licensed for a decade and never heard of it happening.

Rhandhali
Sep 7, 2003

This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone...
Grimey Drawer
I present the Blickensderfer typewriter, a very early typewriter that was unique in that it used a typewheel that was, in theory interchangeable for different fonts. No other typewriter until the 1960s with the IBM Selectric could do this. The company also pushed the so-called scientific key layout, DHIATENSOR. The mechanism is similar to the golfball that the selectric used; pressing down on a key would cause the wheel to rotate and be pushed up on its axis to allow the proper key to be struck.

It's a mechanical oddity, but never took off in part because instead of a ribbon the wheel had to rub up against a pre-inked pad before it the paper. Also you couldn't see what you were typing as you typed making correction a massive pain in the rear end.



Close up of the type wheel



Here is a video of it in action

Needless to say, DHIATENSOR never took off, but enough of the Blickensderfers were made that they still show up occasionally.

edit - Found some photos of a full teardown of one of these machines

More teardowns of this weird old machine

Still more teardown pictures

Rhandhali has a new favorite as of 01:37 on Feb 20, 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-cK0dkPxO0

It uses a vacuum line hookup to take a drag. :eyepop:

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

The Ape of Naples posted:

As multiple Sarah Connors can attest to.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Trabant posted:

The Ape of Naples posted:

As multiple Sarah Connors can't attest to.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Touche!

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Continuing to go through that large lot of Apple products I bought, I think I found some good money in the form of 4 Seagates ST19171WC SCSI drives.

1.6 inches tall, things are huge. 9.1GB. Upon research though, they don't sell. At all. Theres a bunch on ebay between 10-20 dollars and zero have sold.

Guess I'll add them to my pile of old drives that I plan to disassemble for the aluminum housing, platters and magnets.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



twistedmentat posted:

Cellular Telephone! My baby loves her Cellular Telephone! Lets you talk anywhere! My baby is talking on it all day loooooooong.
Thank you.

I'm gonna go back to last August to appreciate this post.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
It's funny how some old systems go for $$$$ and others hardly nothing.


These two Performa 6200CDs I have, Im just gonna scrap em out. They don't power on, and after considering Sold and Unsold systems and parts, there just really isn't a market for them.

Ah well, I still got more than a dozen systems to go through. I already broke past breakeven and into profit territory, so

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Johnny Aztec posted:

It's funny how some old systems go for $$$$ and others hardly nothing.


These two Performa 6200CDs I have, Im just gonna scrap em out. They don't power on, and after considering Sold and Unsold systems and parts, there just really isn't a market for them.

Ah well, I still got more than a dozen systems to go through. I already broke past breakeven and into profit territory, so

Yeah, I want an MSX soo much but cannot justify the costs.

So 3D printing time!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3564052

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I just wish I had some way of testing these SCSI drives. If they were IDE, I have this cool external device that has hookups for IDE, SATA, the old Laptop pins, and a bunch of memory card types.
I could be letting a through scan be happening but....man, I know so little about SCSI.


Fast,and wide and all sorts of different pins and didn't they go through several changes over time, making it harder?

I mean, an IDE drive is the same whether its from 1994 or 2004. SATA was the only major change.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Humphreys posted:

Yeah, I want an MSX soo much but cannot justify the costs.

So 3D printing time!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3564052

Have you heard of MiSTer? You can put an FPGA in that 3D printed case and it would be as good as the real thing and you even get an HDMI output.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Johnny Aztec posted:

I just wish I had some way of testing these SCSI drives. If they were IDE, I have this cool external device that has hookups for IDE, SATA, the old Laptop pins, and a bunch of memory card types.
I could be letting a through scan be happening but....man, I know so little about SCSI.


Fast,and wide and all sorts of different pins and didn't they go through several changes over time, making it harder?

I mean, an IDE drive is the same whether its from 1994 or 2004. SATA was the only major change.

SCSI is also known for not working even when everything is set up correctly, anyone who worked on 90s Macs has stories about arbitrarily changing SCSI IDs, chain order, and termination in order to get all their devices to work. I can imagine it being much worse today when dealing with aging hardware of questionable reliability.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Johnny Aztec posted:

I just wish I had some way of testing these SCSI drives. If they were IDE, I have this cool external device that has hookups for IDE, SATA, the old Laptop pins, and a bunch of memory card types.
I could be letting a through scan be happening but....man, I know so little about SCSI.


Fast,and wide and all sorts of different pins and didn't they go through several changes over time, making it harder?

I mean, an IDE drive is the same whether its from 1994 or 2004. SATA was the only major change.

IDE changed too - 33, 66, EIDE, Ultra ATA, ATAPI, 40 pin cables have either 39 or 40 pins for keying and also may or may not have separate keying, 80 pin cables, cable select vs. jumpers, etc. I probably repeated some things in that list by using different names for the same thing, but that would be because I don't know poo poo about it all despite using those devices since about when IDE first appeared.

I think SCSI is fairly interoperable so long as you don't mix single ended (original) and Low Voltage Differential devices (unless the HBA says that's okay).

I've been playing a lot with old SCSI stuff lately and it hasn't all collapsed into a black hole of complexity. It's probably easier to find decent documentation about it online because your web searches aren't going to turn up 100 uneducated guesses from overclocker forums as might be the case for IDE.

One tip is to go into your SCSI HBA BIOS and turn everything down to the slowest dumbest settings for best reliability if you're not sure what standards things adhere to.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


This just reminds me of my old Linux box before I tossed it because I wasn't using it and didn't want to move it. It had four hard drives, all SCSI, and only the boot drive would spin up when you turned the power on. To get the other ones to turn on, you had to wait for the system to completely boot, and then soft reboot it. Why that worked I will never know.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

You Am I posted:

I didn't know the 1000 could run Kickstart 3.1

So here's what he said when I asked:

quote:

Ingredients:

This contraption that the Amiga thinks is a floppy drive but is actually a disk image on a USB stick, you connect it with a floppy ribbon cable.
An Amiga 1000 with at least 2mb fastram at c000.
A binary image of version 40.063 kickstart usually used in Amiga 500 ROM.
There is a utility that patches the image so the base address of the os matches the Amiga 1000 map and it makes a kickstart disk out of it.
That pushes it into expansion memory instead of the normal place an a1000 puts kickstart.

So. Yeah.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Buttcoin purse posted:

IDE changed too - 33, 66, EIDE, Ultra ATA, ATAPI, 40 pin cables have either 39 or 40 pins for keying and also may or may not have separate keying, 80 pin cables, cable select vs. jumpers, etc. I probably repeated some things in that list by using different names for the same thing, but that would be because I don't know poo poo about it all despite using those devices since about when IDE first appeared.

I mean, those are more improvements than changes. What I meant was, I can, and have,taken 25 year old IDE drives and plugged them into a modern computer with little issue.(albeit with an adapter)
Just glancing at what I got, theres. at least, three different connectors.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Kwyndig posted:

This just reminds me of my old Linux box before I tossed it because I wasn't using it and didn't want to move it. It had four hard drives, all SCSI, and only the boot drive would spin up when you turned the power on. To get the other ones to turn on, you had to wait for the system to completely boot, and then soft reboot it. Why that worked I will never know.

Drives draw the most power when they're starting to spin up, and all of them spinning up at once might have exceeded the power your power supply could supply, so maybe you were just lucky that the important one spun up and the others failed to (although that seems unlikely) or maybe your SCSI HBA was configured to not spin up those drives (I'm pretty sure I've seen an option for this on some HBAs), and Linux didn't send the command to tell them to spin up itself. Some RAID controllers let you do things like stagger the drive startup times so they don't all draw their startup power at the same time.

Johnny Aztec posted:

I mean, those are more improvements than changes. What I meant was, I can, and have,taken 25 year old IDE drives and plugged them into a modern computer with little issue.(albeit with an adapter)
Just glancing at what I got, theres. at least, three different connectors.

Yeah, SCSI had a lot more different connectors, but IDE still wasn't perfect in that regard. I've had the BIOS complain when I'm using only a 40 pin cable instead of 80 (not so bad, you only have to hit F1), and I've definitely had trouble with regards to keyed vs. non-keyed IDE cables, where older motherboards don't have one of the pins missing, so you need to find a similarly old IDE cable that isn't keyed in that way, and you also have to worry about whether the drive and motherboard have the other keying thing. I've read a blog post from someone complaining about the same thing because they didn't have a large assortment of IDE cables on hand :rolleyes: :lol:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Cojawfee posted:

Have you heard of MiSTer? You can put an FPGA in that 3D printed case and it would be as good as the real thing and you even get an HDMI output.

I sure have! I did forget about them so thanks!

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

I wound up clipping off the offending pin with a pair of sidecutters when confronted with a keyed IDE cable and a non-keyed motherboard or drive. It's okay, it was one of several superfluous ground pins. Also, pretty much every drive, cable, and controller was cross-compatible, although it would default to ATA-33 if you used a 40-pin cable with ATA-66 or faster components (or all the way down to ATA-1 if you really mismatched components).

Remember kids, red stripe on the cable went to pin 1. Pin 1 towards the power connector on drives. (Black back-to-back on the original AT power supply connectors, they weren't keyed in any way and reversing them let the smoke out, ask me how I know :v: )

SimplyCosmic
May 18, 2004

It could be worse.

Not sure how, but it could be.
Because I am bad with money, I recently purchased a Bell and Howell 2580 16mm projector. These were more commonly found in classrooms versus home 8mm and Super8 projectors.

It's like having the convenience of vinyl with the video quality of VHS.



Sure, there are nice quality feature films available on eBay, but they're typically expensive. A lower-end common feature can easily go for $100+ as Boomers snatched them up by the thousands in the 80s and 90s and are only now starting to part with their collections for profit. And a good number of these films have started to fade to pink over the years.

Because of this, I mostly pick up educational films on the cheap. I'm appreciative of the content mainly because it's often a window in time to however a specific topic was seen in that era. Movies about astronomy pre-1980 were still very hopeful about manned exploration, for example.

It's oddly satisfying handling the hardware, with a pizza-sized reel giving you about 30-45 minutes of footage. What's also fascinating to me are all the accessories out there, such as this B&H Filmo viewer / editor / rewinder from the 40s I picked up that folds down into a neat wooden box.







Good for fixing old, falling-apart splices made by under-funded school systems.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

SimplyCosmic posted:

A lower-end common feature can easily go for $100+ as Boomers snatched them up by the thousands in the 80s and 90s and are only now starting to part with their collections for profit.

More like they’re dropping dead and their kids are selling them.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

A Pack of Kobolds posted:

I'm gonna go back to last August to appreciate this post.

Thank you


SimplyCosmic posted:

Because I am bad with money, I recently purchased a Bell and Howell 2580 16mm projector. These were more commonly found in classrooms versus home 8mm and Super8 projectors.

It's like having the convenience of vinyl with the video quality of VHS.



Sure, there are nice quality feature films available on eBay, but they're typically expensive. A lower-end common feature can easily go for $100+ as Boomers snatched them up by the thousands in the 80s and 90s and are only now starting to part with their collections for profit. And a good number of these films have started to fade to pink over the years.

Because of this, I mostly pick up educational films on the cheap. I'm appreciative of the content mainly because it's often a window in time to however a specific topic was seen in that era. Movies about astronomy pre-1980 were still very hopeful about manned exploration, for example.

It's oddly satisfying handling the hardware, with a pizza-sized reel giving you about 30-45 minutes of footage. What's also fascinating to me are all the accessories out there, such as this B&H Filmo viewer / editor / rewinder from the 40s I picked up that folds down into a neat wooden box.







Good for fixing old, falling-apart splices made by under-funded school systems.

I can hear that thing. Though its not as fun as the film strip projector that had the "doot" noises on the tape. I can also hear my teacher swearing up a storm trying to get the filmstrip to work.

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xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!
Saw this on a Reddit post.

A PDP-11 emulator connected to a simulated paper teletype.
https://pavel-krivanek.github.io/pdp11/

Kind of fun to play with and get a feel for how Unix use and programming would have been back in the 70s.

If you intend to play around and write some somple programs in C, you're going to want to reference the pre-ANSI K&R.
https://archive.org/details/TheCProgrammingLanguageFirstEdition/mode/2up

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