RBA Starblade posted:

lol it's way late to that party

al-azad posted:

Ehhh I mean board games and video games have shared a lot of ideas but until the past couple of years they’ve existed in their own world. Even the Battletech game is different from its tabletop incarnation in good and bad ways. I’ve never seen deck builder used in the context of a video game until StS and there’s a bunch of wonderful tactical games that can be mined. If I was a game dev I’d totally be ripping off Combat Commander for a squad based tactical game.

Relax Or DIE posted:

Jay Rust posted:

I do like that character-based turn order allows for things like initiative and speed to exist, which can be fun!

Relax Or DIE posted:

Phantasium posted:

yeah there's a store not far from me that has Panzer Dragoon Saga, Rule of Rose, a ton of other games just available.

Not that I'm going to be paying their asking prices for the first two there ever (even though they're pretty fair compared to eBay).

this is in addition to like, 2 other chains that exist around here that i'm less fond of but still have okay selections occasionally.

al-azad posted:

Every strategy since at least FFT shows a turn order tree. I’ve never loved I-go-you-go unless the design tries to incorporate simultaneous actions (XCOM’s overwatch for example) or balance out the difference between player 1 and 2. A lot of modern skirmish board games will give player 1 the benefit of attacking first but player 2 wins ties or gets the benefit of reacting to player 1’s hard commitment.

Like Fire Emblem is just too basic for me, I will probably not play the other games in the series.

The 7th Guest posted:

i can get the entire atelier iris trilogy from gamestop online now

cheetah7071 posted:

wouldn't recommend it

al-azad posted:

Ehhh I mean board games and video games have shared a lot of ideas but until the past couple of years they’ve existed in their own world. Even the Battletech game is different from its tabletop incarnation in good and bad ways. I’ve never seen deck builder used in the context of a video game until StS and there’s a bunch of wonderful tactical games that can be mined. If I was a game dev I’d totally be ripping off Combat Commander for a squad based tactical game.

The 7th Guest posted:

i'm not in a hurry on that. i have mana khemia 1 first to play. then if i enjoy it, i'd maybe get iris 1 and 2, but not bother with 3

i know jrpg trilogies always have a bad game of the trilogy. ff13-1, xenosaga 2, atelier totori

Looper posted:

why are you taking a picture instead of petting me

RBA Starblade posted:

Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are unplayably slow to me now

RBA Starblade posted:

Even then, XCOM 2, Witcher 3, Civ, Hand of Fate, Tharsis, and countless more have beaten it to that punch. A lot of tactic and strategy games are influenced by layout, mechanics, and presentation of physical games (generally for the better imo, though Tharsis kind of sucked). Not to mention Hearthstone and friends.

cheetah7071 posted:

Not trying to convince you otherwise since it's obviously a matter of personal preference, but to provide an opposing viewpoint:

Fire Emblem does provide simultaneous actions, in the form of counterattacks. In fact, the default scenario is that, no matter what the relative army sizes, both armies get the exact same number of actions, because every attack triggers a counterattack. In order to break action parity, you have to employ some amount of cleverness. This is a place where I feel like a lot of strategy games fall flat, by having numbers matter more than action economy, because that has to be the case if you're outnumbered and there's no mechanic to smooth out the action advantage.

Ultimately though FE is at it's best when there's timed side objectives which you can miss if you aren't fast enough, because aggressive play is both more fun than cautious play, but also riskier, so the player needs an incentive to avoid doing the boring-but-safe strategy. Timed side objectives have mostly been phased out of the modern series though. The last non-remake to have them consistently in most maps was Path of Radiance, for the Gamecube. It sucks.


wouldn't recommend it

Relax Or DIE posted:

after i shat my pants on our date i thought you were done with me

Weedle posted:

there have been digital board games for a long time

al-azad posted:

There’s a certain level of “cheating” these games get away with that’s antithetical to how pure I would prefer them. What I’m saying is Slay the Spire and Card Hunters could actually function as physical games with no hand waving.


Factoring wt and counterattacking is the highlight of my FE sessions. But yes, what it comes down to is that I prefer the intimacy of a FFT style game. Small maps, multiple terrain types, height differences, the weirder the more interested I am.

Like I wish Mario Rabbids caught on more, it was like the weird rear end 3D movement of disgaea, destructible cover, multiple terrain effects, Xcom concepts, but still had FE style of no ambiguity to when a character would go or no confusion over damage. You either have 100% to hit or 50% the rest of the game is closing the gap.

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And they’re almost always bad because they get cheap studios to port them.

Help Im Alive posted:

Trying to find out what the new sewer house characters look like post time skip but googling fire emblem yuri is getting me nowhere

Jay Rust posted:

drat, those heels

al-azad posted:

And they’re almost always bad because they get cheap studios to port them.

Tabletop Simulator is the go-to and that’s just sad!

RBA Starblade posted:

XCOM 2 could with some dice (and its prototypes literally were iirc), Civ arguably could (or at least it's been abstracted to a board game) but its calculations are intense. Tharsis is literally a board game.

Most turn-based games and older DnD games, which were based off the rules exactly could actually, though you'd need a pen and paper.

I guess if you want "literally just a board game" there are fewer to choose from but a lot of games derive from that, it's been a thing for a while

Grapplejack posted:

they heard the gay community bitching about their lack of options and made this the BL DLC

Weedle posted:

Civilization was originally based on a board game, also called "Civilization" but totally unrelated to the later, official board game of Sid Meier's Civilization. It's pretty good!

RBA Starblade posted:

XCOM 2 could with some dice (and its prototypes literally were iirc), Civ arguably could (or at least it's been abstracted to a board game) but its calculations are intense. Tharsis is literally a board game.

Most turn-based games and older DnD games, which were based off the rules exactly could actually, though you'd need a pen and paper.

I guess if you want "literally just a board game" there are fewer to choose from but a lot of games derive from that, it's been a thing for a while


Ticket to Ride was shockingly lovely as a port.

Talisman is pure and good as a computer game because it exemplifies nihilism and bullshit and somehow cannot actually add correctly. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.

al-azad posted:

The best thing to come out of Riot is Mechs vs Minions, a tower defense boardgame where you program the turn by turn play of giant robots.a

Cowcaster posted:

friend have you looked at the under $5 section on steam

Grouchio posted:

Had my first day of work. Did so well at vendor management I completed a 2-day task in two hours.
Also my breaks and lunch count as pay.

Grouchio posted:

Had my first day of work. Did so well at vendor management I completed a 2-day task in two hours.
Also my breaks and lunch count as pay.

Grapplejack posted:

Yuri might be one of the gayest characters I have ever seen in a Fire Emblem game, it's wild



He's got better eyeshadow than some women I know

homeless snail posted:

you hosed up on your very first day. never do things quicker than you're expected to