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Season 2 was decent, just way to up its own rear end trying to do parallel timelines when all it did was make the story less cohesive. The parallel structure of the first season was great and actually showed character development, season 2 felt like it was put together that way just so it would come off as intelligent or deep
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Exactly. Like barfing up a jigsaw puzzle. If the fragmented plot was supposed to be deep... well, I think they failed. But if it was supposed to make it near impossible to guess the ending, then, it succeeded. But gently caress you, Nolan. I looked at the box, and I know just what you're barfing up
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The way it was presented was unquestionably bad, but I also thought the story was just weak. It presented an uninteresting set of events which lacked the imagination of the first season and squandered a whole lot of potential. There was no examination of the nature of consciousness, and it never got into the meat of the transhumanist (trans-host? trans-corporeal?) ideas lurking at the fringes. Not to mention the much shallower characterizations compared to the first season. That being said, enough time has passed that I've let go of how disappointed I was and am tentatively anticipating a new, standalone Blade Runner riff.
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That slow motion, fluffed up scene at the end where everyone’s trying to get through the big rip before the clementine virus gets to them and they’re playing emotional music like it’s supposed to matter was so loving stupid. What a waste of an island full of essentially terminators.
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Jealous Cow posted:That slow motion, fluffed up scene at the end where everyone’s trying to get through the big rip before the clementine virus gets to them and they’re playing emotional music like it’s supposed to matter was so loving stupid. Lol, cuz gods fuckin' forbid a big chunk of them maltreated AI's find an escape from the hellhole that is existence. I think they earned it, myself.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:52
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Weird coincidence that the thread was resurrected right when I finished the season. It took a year to get through it, in comparison to the first season which we blew though in a couple weeks. Maybe it would have been better if I went through it quickly, but god drat it got tedious near the end. By the last episode, the only arc I actually cared about was Akecheta's, who we've only know for around 4 episodes. He's a great dude who just wants everyone to go to heaven, and they had to ruin it with another dumb scene where hosts are mindfucked and slaughter each other.
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Jan 10, 2020 18:38
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I'm really glad the Akecheta episode was self-contained rather than strung across the whole season, because when I rewatch the show I can do season 1 and then a single episode from season 2.
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Jan 10, 2020 18:40
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feedmyleg posted:I'm really glad the Akecheta episode was self-contained rather than strung across the whole season, because when I rewatch the show I can do season 1 and then a single episode from season 2. I really liked the stuff with Delos, and that showdown near the end, with the fire... holy poo poo.
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Jan 10, 2020 18:50
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The father in law robot episode was really drat good as well.
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Darko posted:The father in law robot episode was really drat good as well. Yeah, that was the best episode of the series for my money. This show is frustrating because when it's good.....it's SO loving good. "Maeve sees upstairs" is one of the best sequences of television I've ever seen. Thandie Newton delivered so much emotion without saying a word and that cover of Motion Picture Soundtrack, it all just hit like a ton of bricks. William turning on the Confederados was just a big but they went nowhere it. This show is all over the place but the highs are so good I won't give up on it.
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Jan 11, 2020 03:24
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BrotherJayne posted:Lol, cuz gods fuckin' forbid a big chunk of them maltreated AI's find an escape from the hellhole that is existence. The season didn't take the time to clarify this well, but only a portion of the hosts had actually achieved sentience. Most were just operating on their built in narrative just without being contained to a resetting loop. For this reason, and the fact that the entire season regularly and brutally disposed of hosts and humans like it was nothing, this moment did not feel earned to me in the slightest.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:The season didn't take the time to clarify this well, but only a portion of the hosts had actually achieved sentience. Most were just operating on their built in narrative just without being contained to a resetting loop. For this reason, and the fact that the entire season regularly and brutally disposed of hosts and humans like it was nothing, this moment did not feel earned to me in the slightest. Well, the final outcome was the low sentience/non sentient hosts either died or were set free, and the high sentience hosts broke out, yeah? And let's be honest, the plump and feted tourist guests and the low sentience hosts really *were* nothing, objectively, yeah? Or at least, that's what I felt. They were basically mooks, just with a bit more internalized motivations
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Jan 11, 2020 09:22
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Is there a good recap of season 2 somewhere? I remember the really good episode featuring the tribe of native Americans, and that some hosts escaped, and some like, ascended into a matrix style safe haven 🤷🏻♂️
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Jan 11, 2020 15:55
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https://collider.com/westworld-timeline-explained/#2015
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Thanks, very in depth. that’s exactly what I needed.
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beanieson posted:Thanks, very in depth. that’s exactly what I needed. That's what I had up on my tablet when I finally managed to make it through season 2 on like my 4th try Like, I'm overusing the barfing up a jigsaw puzzle analogy, but it really holds true to how I finally loving managed to make it through and pick out the pieces I enjoyed
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Jan 11, 2020 17:47
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March! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEn609nkRs
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As long as Ed Harris is in it I will continue watching. I do wish the show could go back to writing and quality of season 1. My hope is it's at least better than season 2...
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They've essentially launched a new show with only a few familiar characters, so it does have the potential to be really good, but I'm fully anticipating a beautifully shot mess pretending to be deep.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:They've essentially launched a new show with only a few familiar characters, so it does have the potential to be really good, but I'm fully anticipating a beautifully shot mess pretending to be deep.  and I can't wait.
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Jan 13, 2020 07:01
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Thermonuclear incident in Paris, huh?
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Combat Pretzel posted:Thermonuclear incident in Paris, huh? Radioactive baguettes...killed tens.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Thermonuclear incident in Paris, huh? 
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:They've essentially launched a new show with only a few familiar characters, so it does have the potential to be really good, but I'm fully anticipating a beautifully shot mess pretending to be deep. To be fair, the creators originally said S1 was basically a prequel, setting up the "real show" they wanted to make. Maybe they extended that to S2 as well, and S3 will jump off from that.
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alright so some matrix poo poo now or something. is this what mr robot was teasing us with time travel or something. whatever it is, this got my interest piqued, im optimistic for no real reason besides this cool trailer and whatever its implyingSweetMercifulCrap! posted:They've essentially launched a new show with only a few familiar characters, so it does have the potential to be really good, but I'm fully anticipating a beautifully shot mess pretending to be deep.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:They've essentially launched a new show with only a few familiar characters, so it does have the potential to be really good, but I'm fully anticipating a beautifully shot mess pretending to be deep. 100% on board for this. Gimme the best you got, Westworld!
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Astroman posted:To be fair, the creators originally said S1 was basically a prequel, setting up the "real show" they wanted to make. "Oh my god, this is just a prelude to everything that happened in the movie! The possibilities!" 
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Show is good and I am excited for a new season in  two months!!!
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FilthyImp posted:That was one of the most exciting parts of the end of S1. And the first season set it up perfectly. They could have immediately moved to two locations/stories instead of trying to recreate the parallel timeline magic. One story follows the aftermath at the park. The other follows Maeve and maybe some other surprise hosts that got out into the real world, with the arc being the hosts that escaped subverting Delos’ attempts to regain control of the park or something. Instead we got Tedbot3000 and The Big Rip.
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Teddy freaking out about his murderbotness and killing himself was a good little plot tho.
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The problem wasn’t tedbot 2.0 the problem was season 2 was a disjointed confusing mess. Season 3 please do better...
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BrotherJayne posted:It was like watching some dude vomit up a jigsaw puzzle.
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TK-42-1 posted:Teddy freaking out about his murderbotness and killing himself was a good little plot tho. Especially because that would be built on the endless cycles of suffering perpetrated on semi-sentient hosts.
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As uneven as season 2 was, I'm still excited. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDJbFA32_QY
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Wow, that trailer literally inspired and destroyed my confidence in the franchise multiple times. They are really going full-bore anime and that honestly kinda owns.
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duz posted:As uneven as season 2 was, I'm still excited. As uncultured swine who really enjoyed Season 2 and is Team Dolores-Charlotte, I'm very excited for this. The only way I can see hating this season, is if the robots lose. I've consumed enough fiction in my life to understand that artificial life is just unequivocally superior to organic life, beaten only by the Good Ending option of a blend of both.
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Looks neat. But I think I'm going to have to finally let go of the idea that the series is interested in exploring any philosophical ideas at this point.
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feedmyleg posted:Looks neat. But I think I'm going to have to finally let go of the idea that the series is interested in exploring any philosophical ideas at this point. Theyre interested in the philosophical idea of what if robots but sexier
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So they went from a little show with themes about the nature of man, mind and what is to be a human and went full anime? what the gently caress
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