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My dumb rear end went from Reserves to FTS. So there's that. Needless to say, I'm going back to the reserves. I'll just play pretend until retirement.
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FrozenVent posted:Can you translate that to something us non-mil folks can understand? I like this one.
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Thronde posted:My dumb rear end went from Reserves to FTS. So there's that. I'm sure FTS is it's own brand of hosed. Speaking if the reserves we've got a dude going from Navy to Army because he doesn't do any in rate stuff and that makes him angry I guess? This guy started in the marines so soon he'll have been in all four branches! Grass is always greener, etc
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You can get your USCG documents and get a job in the merchant marine. Depending on sea time and rate you might be able to qualify for an officer's license. Even then, an electrician or reefer with the MFOW is making ~1k/day. A first engineer in the MEBA makes 1.1-1.5ish. MSC is always hiring. Your life will be similarly regimented while on board without most of the worst of it and you get your own stateroom in either of the two unions. Really though, figure out how to readjust to the real world and dont look back.
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Thronde posted:My dumb rear end went from Reserves to FTS. So there's that. I’d consider FTS for instructor duty. Gonna look into it after this mob.
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maffew buildings posted:being out update: I don't like being out of the military and will go back in elsewhere, but I strongly dislike the Navy due to the personnel system and the Chiefs. Namaste. Not sure where you are at but check out the VA's Vet Centers (https://www.vetcenter.va.gov/) for help adjusting to Real Life(TM) or, I think you said you're in school, your local university should have walk-in times for their mental health / counseling center. It isn't easy going from active duty to civilian life but there are resources and assistance to help make your journey smoother.
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Thanks, I'm pretty good to go. My core group of bros is all ex-military, ex-con or both (surprisingly high overlap in how these demographics think and operate). I basically spent five years being mildly inconvenienced so nothing has really stuck with me outside of my dislike of THE MESS
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My favorite part of the GI Bill was choosing a place off of a map where I wanted to live and moving there. Kinda wish I had gone out of the country but I'm pretty happy here in Colorado. Boulder was disappointing though
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LingcodKilla posted:I’d consider FTS for instructor duty. Gonna look into it after this mob. Are there FTS instructor billets?
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PneumonicBook posted:Are there FTS instructor billets? Currently I dont actually know. In the past? I was just talking to a senior chief who met once recently and that's how this came up. I know I've seen them for Great Lakes but hell no. I've also looked at home town recruiter in the yards if I decide I would be fine with being a forever 2nd class. Only having to deal with roping prior into the reserves seems a lot less stressful that dumb kids into undes.
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lightpole posted:You can get your USCG documents and get a job in the merchant marine. Depending on sea time and rate you might be able to qualify for an officer's license. Even then, an electrician or reefer with the MFOW is making ~1k/day. A first engineer in the MEBA makes 1.1-1.5ish. MSC is always hiring. Your life will be similarly regimented while on board without most of the worst of it and you get your own stateroom in either of the two unions. Lol as if the mfow has jobs
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FTS was a soul crushing experience for selecting billets and opportunities to get out of those. I got fully selected for the whitehouse communications agency at one point with welcome aboard packages and what I was going to be doing and everything, and then I got told I wasn't going because they slashed the single FTS billet they had while leaving an unoccupied active duty billet in the same shop. My chief, my recruiter, and the shop's boss were all sending nastygrams to the detailer and he basically told them to gently caress off. So I didn't get a cool opportunity, my recruiter was embarrassed for indirectly giving me the runaround and ended up emailing me what amounted to a brokenhearted apology, and the shop was left undermanned by three billets in a shop made of five or six people. You not getting to do anything except work at severely undermanned commands (because they're reserve commands) and going to NOSCs is the FTS fate. It's great if you want to cruise and basically do nothing while no one cares that you're doing nothing, terrible if you want to actually do anything. It's why NOSCs and the reserves are such shitshows. I didn't know what FTS was two years into being in the Navy because no one knew what it was. Commoners fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Feb 20, 2020 |
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Yeah I’ve worked at my local NOSC but since it’s a home port for carriers there’s more pregnant and broke dick sailors than FTS. Sorry about your hosed up orders. I loved working in DC. 
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LingcodKilla posted:Currently I dont actually know. In the past? I was just talking to a senior chief who met once recently and that's how this came up. I know I've seen them for Great Lakes but hell no. I've never seen any fts billet that wasn't nosc support. I've seen mob instructor orders tho.
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I was neighbors with an fts air framer who worked at the AIMD in JRB New Orleans (Belle Chasse) who's only deployments were with the p3 squadron on full per diem to South America. Being fts allowed him to do incredibly odd things like having one duty station his entire career, buying a house, raising a family and going to college and post grad uninterrupted and having a small business fabricating motorcycle stuff. I felt bad for him that he was missing the real navy experience while he received normal active duty pay and retirement credit. Terrible really.
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Yeah FTS is not good living unless you're an airdale. The detailers don't give half a poo poo about helping you. They were trying to send me from my Rivron to TEU 1 in San Diego, clean across the country. Not bad, except they were just planning to obliserv me. FTS is not better than Active at this point. In fact, it's worse than Active for surface fleet.
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FTS is silly and shouldn't exist in a modern computer-driven personnel system. The reserves should be more-closely integrated into regular manning, at least for surface. Ships should just have reservist billets and be used to having guys rotate in.
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Met RADM Kitchener today. He seemed alright from the 5 minutes I spoke with my wherein my CO was essentially telling me to talk about certain things: What was it like having to do helio ops while fighting the flooding? How did physical stamina play a role? How awesome was this OTHER Captain? I did not answer the last point the way that my CO expected. I told Kitchener that Duffy was that needed step back and he helped me focus on what I needed to. What my CO WANTED me to say was that Duffy helped reengage the crew with the bucket brigade down to FWD Power. Sure, I added this point AFTER he told me to, but like, A) we may have already had a smaller bucket brigade going, and B) I DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. Yes, the bucket brigade did get a lot of sailors out of that 1000 yard stare they had and essentially gave them purpose, but I was stuck in DCC. I barely left it. I genuinely don't know a lot of what happened with other parts of the ship unless people have told me. I'm also not super happy with my CO because earlier in the week, I sat down with him and a bunch of O-5s, and one of the things he asked me about was crew resiliency. I was honest and said that day of it was probably better then it had any right to be, but that it was the weeks and months after that we really started to see problems. He said that he didn't really want to go down that road, and he just wanted to focus on the day of. I feel like he's trying to take control of the narrative of the Fitzgerald collision, and that's putting a really bad taste in my mouth.
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Sounds like word either came down the pipe from higher up, or they are trying to frame it in a way that is liked to those higher up. Case in point - the 100+ casualties from the Iran missile strike that have been completely downplayed. They want to focus on the heroes of the day not the consequences or causes of the problem. edit : if this was any other presidency I would not think like this at all, but its 100% in line with what has gone on for the past 3 years.
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ded posted:Sounds like word either came down the pipe from higher up, or they are trying to frame it in a way that is liked to those higher up. I'm sorry 100 plus casualties?
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PneumonicBook posted:I'm sorry 100 plus casualties? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/10/total-u-s-troops-wounded-iranian-missile-attack-now-tops-100/4716343002/ quote:More than 100 U.S. troops have been diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injury from last month's Iranian missile attack on a base in Iraq, the Pentagon announced Monday.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Casualty != KIA Yea my fuckup. I knew about the TBI's that lovely cheetoh denies are injuries. I went straight to dead, my b.
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The Valley Stared posted:Met RADM Kitchener today. He seemed alright from the 5 minutes I spoke with my wherein my CO was essentially telling me to talk about certain things: What was it like having to do helio ops while fighting the flooding? How did physical stamina play a role? How awesome was this OTHER Captain? https://www.loc.gov/item/2015490010/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228224241_The_Psychology_of_Corporate_Dishonesty Thanks for staying true TVS, we need it.
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The Valley Stared posted:Met RADM Kitchener today. He seemed alright from the 5 minutes I spoke with my wherein my CO was essentially telling me to talk about certain things: What was it like having to do helio ops while fighting the flooding? How did physical stamina play a role? How awesome was this OTHER Captain? Lol. But not at you.
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I'm confused, this CO was not there or involved in any way, correct? What the gently caress are they even doing interjecting then?
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https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1231965201270026241?s=20 The Pacific War Museum in Fredricksburg is really great. I would recommend anyone visiting Austin or San Antonio make the trip out there. Also, a lot of great German places and beer halls, as you'd expect
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1231965201270026241?s=20 Also alot of good genuine pastry shops in that region. Like poo poo so good that I felt I was back on liberty on my NATO deployment.
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maffew buildings posted:I'm confused, this CO was not there or involved in any way, correct? What the gently caress are they even doing interjecting then? My CO was not involved in any way, no. He was mostly there to provide talking points for me for RADM Kitchener. As for why he's so gung-ho about CAPT Duffy's role (he was the Deputy Commodore of our DESRON and did come on the ship when we were bringing the Fitz back in), I don't really know. I know that my CO is really big on this nebulous concept of Military Toughness and physical fitness, but if he wants to talk about Toughness, then he needs to consider the events after too. Plus our physical fitness is an absolute joke, but you know, let's do planks where the minimum time is 1:40. Because that can't go wrong at all. Maybe one day I'll hit that part of Texas and try out some of those places. Only been through Amarillo.
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Why are they providing talking points, you're more than capable. I don't get it.
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If everything is better, that CO gets to claim credit.
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So... pretty sure I’m gonna be able to have a good setup to make some decisions related to the FSC family. Like, kinda on a good path for that and know some peeps that can get me in there and they already consider me to be good/desirable for the teams. All to say please please please anyone who wants to chime in with various lessons learned along the lines of “we were fighting this casualty on this class and this stupid design choice or space layout sucked for this reason” please please please PM me or post and explain what the issue was and we can try to hash out a fix. Legit if I can help save a single Sailor by re-designing some dumb poo poo that rando-dipshit-engineer-number-5835 chose on some design drawings then I def wanna know those deets.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:So... pretty sure I’m gonna be able to have a good setup to make some decisions related to the FSC family. Like, kinda on a good path for that and know some peeps that can get me in there and they already consider me to be good/desirable for the teams. I'll say that as a Sailor I thought the Engineers were idiots, as an Engineer I now think all of the Sailors are loving idiots, so good luck with that.
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maffew buildings posted:Why are they providing talking points, you're more than capable. I don't get it. Everyone thinks they're helping. They think they're reducing the load and pushing whatever their motives are (I do the same thing with that dishonesty article--I'll blame rain in San Diego on that) so that their pet belief that they truly believe in gets a bump as well. piL fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Feb 28, 2020 |
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Lol FAST company marines
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https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/messages/Documents/NAVADMINS/NAV2020/NAV20048.txt GO Navy beat Army at Counterstrike: GO
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piL posted:https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/messages/Documents/NAVADMINS/NAV2020/NAV20048.txt My husband and I try to make it down to San Antonio to PAX South to see friends, see new games, and have a nice weekend away from cold weather over MLK weekend. They had the Army Esports to there with mid-level NCOs wearing those esport performance shirts/jerseys with their rank and name on the back. I applaud them for finding away to do Big Army without having to do real work. It was better than the year before when they had the Air Force with a basic UAV trailer for fat dumb people to pretend in. My take away, DOD wastes so much money that if someone can ride an enlistment or second term out doing bullshit then God's Speed to them
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