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Vagabundo posted:Yeah, it always felt like it was needlessly convoluted. The best finishers are the ones that can just come in out of nowhere, and the most complicated set-up should be a kick to the mid-section like the Stunner. Moves like the Figure Eight cross my personal line where I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. I put it on the same level of dumb as the Overdrive.
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TheKingslayer posted:Moves like the Figure Eight cross my personal line where I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. I put it on the same level of dumb as the Overdrive. Is the Overdrive Elix Skipper’s finisher? If so, yeah, that one had a lot going on.
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Overdrive was like the secret technique of OVW for a hot minute and I will never know why.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Is the Overdrive Elix Skipper’s finisher? If so, yeah, that one had a lot going on.  Holy poo poo is this Saturn doing the Overdrive? 
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Finishers should only be complicated when it's part of a storyline like when Disco Inferno had to refer to notes when applying a hold.TheKingslayer posted:
See? It doesn't even look good.
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Yeah, such a weird move. Skipper called it “Play of the Day” now that I’ve devoted energy to making my brain recall that information.
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Honestly, submission holds are the only ones that you can get away with a bit of set-up, since "can they apply the move?" is absolutely good fodder for drama. A move built around a slam shouldn't be that complicated.
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Vagabundo posted:Honestly, submission holds are the only ones that you can get away with a bit of set-up, since "can they apply the move?" is absolutely good fodder for drama. A move built around a slam shouldn't be that complicated. While you can build a lot of drama around a hold/impact finish some of my personal favorite matches are built around submissions/reversals of said submission/avoiding the submission. I mean Angle vs Benoit (take your pick) had such a real feeling to it because these two guys were grappling masters trying to avoid and counter each other's signature move. To be fair though that's all taste and maybe also depends on how two finishers fit together. DDP had a cool way of making his matches all about hitting the Diamond Cutter from anywhere.
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They gave that stupid Overdrive to so many people and it sucked on all of them
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I don't mind finishers having a bit of setup, as it answers the "why didn't he just hit that at the start?" criticism. And gives room for counters to the setup. If Kenny always gets people in the Electric Chair for the One Winged Angel, a good match will have people finding ways to hit him with something from there.
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TheKingslayer posted:While you can build a lot of drama around a hold/impact finish some of my personal favorite matches are built around submissions/reversals of said submission/avoiding the submission. I mean Angle vs Benoit (take your pick) had such a real feeling to it because these two guys were grappling masters trying to avoid and counter each other's signature move. The best part of the Diamond Cutter (and what really made it work imho) is that no one in the building was more incredibly stoked after a successful one than DDP
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Procrastinator posted:no it's still bad, the left hand of god owns so much more Closed fists are illegal, he should be disqualified.
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forkboy84 posted:Closed fists are illegal, he should be disqualified. Are they illegal or is it just "poor sportsmanship" for Japanese wrestlers?
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https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1148336113830060032 juice robinson is a criminal
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boxcarhobo posted:juice robinson is a criminal Impossible, he's a gay cop
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forkboy84 posted:Closed fists are illegal, he should be disqualified. Closed fists have been legal in WWE for a while
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fatherofmustard posted:Closed fists have been legal in WWE for a while Outrageously cowardly rule change. (Actually it makes a lot of sense because closed fists being banned is one of those rules that people just forget about whenever it's convenient & it's one of those things in wrestling that absolutely does my nut in. I like the idea because it encourages forearms & European uppercuts & elbows & they all loving rule but there's no point having a rule you don't see enforced.)
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Rarity posted:Impossible, he's a gay cop Someone on this board described him as a hot, gay lowtax and I've been laughing ever since
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Vagabundo posted:Honestly, submission holds are the only ones that you can get away with a bit of set-up, since "can they apply the move?" is absolutely good fodder for drama. A move built around a slam shouldn't be that complicated. Nah, Kenny trying to get people set up for the OWA is consistently good. Edit: drat beat to the OWA example
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Wezlar posted:Nah, Kenny trying to get people set up for the OWA is consistently good. I would like to introduce the "Electric Chair Set-up Clause," which clearly states that electric chair set-ups are good and cool, and therefore exempt from the "Keep It Simple, Stupid" rule.
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forkboy84 posted:Outrageously cowardly rule change. All rules are arbitrarily enforced or not, because it’s part of the story.
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Incessant Excess posted:This is a great tag team idea: Tag team? Nah, Women's singles competitor who happens to compete in a large coat. And short setup finishers and long setup finishers are both good, overdrive is not good. Candice Michelle doing the unprettier just to release the hold, grab a headlock and hit a bulldog was the worst.
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Wazzu posted:Tag team? Nah, Women's singles competitor who happens to compete in a large coat. ahem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqWudY_iViM
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There's currently a gap in the Full Sail schedule with no NXT event on March 11th, but shows on the 4th and 18th. According to the tall bald guy that's often in the front row they may be taking NXT to the Impact Zone. https://twitter.com/FLWrestlingFan/status/1232374256991899655
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BAH GAWD WHAT'S WWE DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!
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Can't stop laughing at wrestling coming back to the IMPACT ZONE
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Please be respectful and refer to it by its proper name of the NXT ZONE
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Very happy to see HHH crawling to the Jeff Jarrett home
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Chris James 2 posted:Very happy to see HHH crawling to the Jeff Jarrett home Jeff Jarrett has been in his ear for how long and they are only just now going to the Impact Zone.
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Lol with AJ, Roode, Eric Young, Abyss, etc they can do a way better TNA tribute show than Impact had been able to throw together
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flashy_mcflash posted:Lol with AJ, Roode, Eric Young, Abyss, etc they can do a way better TNA tribute show than Impact had been able to throw together Didn't HHH once say that there wasn't anyone on the TNA roster that WWE wanted?
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Vagabundo posted:Didn't HHH once say that there wasn't anyone on the TNA roster that WWE wanted? No he was lying out loud while engaging in contract tampering.
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Vagabundo posted:Didn't HHH once say that there wasn't anyone on the TNA roster that WWE wanted? He lies about a lot of things, yes
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Vagabundo posted:Didn't HHH once say that there wasn't anyone on the TNA roster that WWE wanted? The impact roster on the other hand...
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Putting the show in a different arena is not going to fix the problem with it
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Astro7x posted:Putting the show in a different arena is not going to fix the problem with it Tuesday Night NXT
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Astro7x posted:Putting the show in a different arena is not going to fix the problem with it Well part of the problem is that compared to Dynamite's arenas Full Sail looks low rent so running from the Impact Zone will make it feel more upmarket and ahahahaha oh god I'm sorry I can't even finish that sentence
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