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Adus posted:well, i do agree with this. i can't even imagine how he would play this. Fabio is powerless without NaOnka
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Feb 22, 2020 21:05
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Island of the Idols, except your sole mentor is Fabio and his only request is to vote out all cops in the game.
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Adus posted:well, i do agree with this. i can't even imagine how he would play this. to be fair, neither would fabio
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Kid Nation, except season 2
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The Bloop posted:Kid Nation, except season 2
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I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast. I know they'll never, ever do this, but I would love to see a total shitshow season of Survivor featuring some of the floppiest, messiest, and weirdest players. alternately, a returnee season consisting entirely of pre-merge boots. somehow trick Francesca into coming back, wahahahaha.
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Feb 23, 2020 08:28
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Spatula City posted:I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast. Brenda did come back so it's not like they shafted the season completely. But Nicaragua doesn't have a lot of 'we need them back' people. Maybe Marty, maybe Fabio... and I'm not sure who else. Holly and Sash aren't quite compelling enough.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Brenda did come back so it's not like they shafted the season completely. But Nicaragua doesn't have a lot of 'we need them back' people. Maybe Marty, maybe Fabio... and I'm not sure who else. Holly and Sash aren't quite compelling enough. wasn't there some whole controversy about Sash and the reason he got no votes at FTC?
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ApplesandOranges posted:Brenda did come back so it's not like they shafted the season completely. But Nicaragua doesn't have a lot of 'we need them back' people. Maybe Marty, maybe Fabio... and I'm not sure who else. Holly and Sash aren't quite compelling enough. Brenda came back and showed herself to be a royal rear end in a top hat, so that shitstain of a season can stay in the toilet for good
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the clusterfuck season we need more returnees from is Gabon. BRING BACK KENNY AND CRYSTAL.
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Just do an entire season of competitive Smash Bros. players, with Ken as the only returning player. I guarantee you won't ever get a more a glorious trainwreck of a season than that.
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Spatula City posted:the clusterfuck season we need more returnees from is Gabon. BRING BACK KENNY AND CRYSTAL. Uhhh Matty is the player we want from Gabon. (here I would link the Matty gif if I wasn't on my phone and could find it)
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Spatula City posted:somehow trick Francesca into coming back, wahahahaha. I just started a rewatch of Caramoan so this made me laugh. So concerned about not being voted out first, yet she did everything possible to make it happen. Lone Goat posted:wasn't there some whole controversy about Sash and the reason he got no votes at FTC? He made a deal with Jane to pay off her mortgage if she helped him win, but the producers didn't want to DQ them both because Purple Kelly and dumb NaOnka already quit.
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nerox posted:I've watched a few Australian Survivor episodes this season, the challenges are so much better than American Survivor now, its just so drat hard to keep up with 90 minute episodes every night it seems. It's only 3 nights a week now, which is a lot better than previous. I'm actually desperate for some Survivor come Monday, having the in some form airing Mon-Thurs is awesome but every Sunday night I sit there wishing I had an episode to watch.
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Just finishing Ep 2 here, but it is blowing my mind watching Jack from Lost player Survivor. It’s eerie how Ethan looks exactly like Matthew Fox
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Any idea why Cochran isnt on this season? I would have thought he would have been a shoe-in. Former winner that is very popular. I wonder if he turned it down for some reason.
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Episode two was pretty fun. A little bummed about the redemption island gimmick given I wouldn’t miss any of the first three boots, but I suppose the fire tokens are an interesting twist. I hope the producers don’t lean into it too heavy and Rob/Amber win the game by having her feed advantages to Rob every week. He’s one of the best players in the history of the game, if not the best. A steady stream of production gimmicks plus his level of skill would be gamebreaking. I hope at least some of the old school players go deep into the season. Ben is about as terrible as I expected him to be. I like what I’ve seen of Sophie so far. Tony is always fun. I liked Adam during his season, but he’s super annoying this time. Solid episode!
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BGrifter posted:Episode two was pretty fun. I assume they are doing the Redemption Island thing again because they have all of the great Survivor personalities and want to keep them hanging around as long as they can even after they are voted out. I get the idea for the ratings but have never liked the Redemption Island thing. I hope no one ever wins by coming back on the show.
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e.martin posted:Any idea why Cochran isnt on this season? I would have thought he would have been a shoe-in. Former winner that is very popular. I wonder if he turned it down for some reason. All we know is that he was approached but turned it down. He has gone on record in the past to say that he would never play again because he already had a perfect win and he wants to preserve that since he'd only do worse if he went back. e.martin posted:I assume they are doing the Redemption Island thing again because they have all of the great Survivor personalities and want to keep them hanging around as long as they can even after they are voted out. I get the idea for the ratings but have never liked the Redemption Island thing. I hope no one ever wins by coming back on the show. Edge of extinction serves the same purpose as Redemption Island but it works much better in my opinion.
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Adus posted:at least for edge of extinction they don't HAVE to waste 15-20 minutes of the episode on a challenge no one cares about. Producers probably also like not having to set up a crew for shooting at Ponderosa, and not coordinating Exit Interviews every week during the broadcast run.
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They still need a camera crew for the Edge and editors to sort through all that extra (and mostly useless) footage. Also exit interviews are good for Survivor. It gets the show traffic and doesn't actually cost the show anything, they just need to remind the contestants not to say anything that would reveal future stuff on the show and the press probably arranges most of it.
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Spatula City posted:I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast. i've thought about this as well and how great I would fit in to a cast like this. ten returnee's that were just too weird/ugly/weak for TV and ten new players (myself included) that are too weird/ugly/weak for TV, battling it out for the title of Sole SURVIVOR  E: spelling poo poo that i just couldn't let slide Dick Bastardly fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 24, 2020 |
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Spatula City posted:I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast. They should do a season consisting entirely of previous first Boots.
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The Lord Bude posted:All we know is that he was approached but turned it down. He has gone on record in the past to say that he would never play again because he already had a perfect win and he wants to preserve that since he'd only do worse if he went back. Good on Cochran for this. While I'm sure he has some regrets for at least not throwing his hat in the ring (especially with a $2m prize), he did indeed play a perfect game to get that win, and in a season with returnees and supposed hardcore fans (but likely just recruits like every other season) at that.
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e.martin posted:I assume they are doing the Redemption Island thing again because they have all of the great Survivor personalities and want to keep them hanging around as long as they can even after they are voted out. I get the idea for the ratings but have never liked the Redemption Island thing. I hope no one ever wins by coming back on the show. I've got some bad news for you bud.
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Sand Monster posted:Good on Cochran for this. While I'm sure he has some regrets for at least not throwing his hat in the ring (especially with a $2m prize), he did indeed play a perfect game to get that win, and in a season with returnees and supposed hardcore fans (but likely just recruits like every other season) at that. Yeah, I get it. But this kind of feels like winning the NCAA championship and retiring instead of playing in the NBA*. Sure, you outplayed everyone but like, there’s another level out there. Kim played an incredible game, as did a good number of the S40 players, and they’re all back. That said, maybe he didn’t want to devote 3+ months of his life to an outside shot at another million and that’s his prerogative, good for him. *Although I guess the analogy breaks down when you realize he got paid for his win, but I digress.
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I have a feeling Cochran would have been a big target on this season, almost as big as Boston Rob and Sandra, so I understand his reservation in coming back. Should have still done it though
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I’d probably take my chances on winning 2 mil. I do kinda wonder how winning a mil changed their lives.
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Yeah, I'm curious how many are actually still millionaires, or ever got to be one. Gov't takes half, right? So they all win half a mil, but poo poo, a house in my dinky little town costs a quarter million. I know someone good at capitalism might be able to take that half a mil and turn it into more, but seems like most prize winners are not those sorts of people.
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I love Cochran to bits; but I respect his reasoning. I do find myself wondering what he's doing these days though. His most recent writing credit on imdb is from 2016. Khanstant posted:Yeah, I'm curious how many are actually still millionaires, or ever got to be one. Gov't takes half, right? So they all win half a mil, but poo poo, a house in my dinky little town costs a quarter million. I know someone good at capitalism might be able to take that half a mil and turn it into more, but seems like most prize winners are not those sorts of people. It's always struck me as mean the way that the US government taxes prize money from gameshows and lotteries and poo poo. It's not something that happens here in Australia.
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I personally can't really see giving up the change for money or fun/challenge of playing to preserve a "perfect win". Like Kim's sucking but I respect that she went out there and didn't just try and protect her image. But you know, to each their own. Everyone gets there a different way.
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The Lord Bude posted:I love Cochran to bits; but I respect his reasoning. I mean, it's income. It gets taxed. If the show wants to claim the winner will get to keep 1 mil after taxes or whatever, they could easily do so. Are you really saying that some windfall income is not taxed in Australia? I'm shocked no one has exploited that to the nth degree yet. Gig economy! you volunteer to do this work and every week spin a wheel to find out what you've won! Minimum winnings = your salary, one tiny space has a $100 bonus. Guaranteed no taxes!
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Yeah, if you didn't tax game show winnings in America then we'd just have some crazy horror story about how rich people were holding secret game shows to give each other money or people were laundering money through Wheel of Fortune or something.
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The Bloop posted:I mean, it's income. It gets taxed. If the show wants to claim the winner will get to keep 1 mil after taxes or whatever, they could easily do so. Prizes from games aren’t considered income in Australia. If you win the lotto, win a game show, win a contest, win big at the casino - not income, not taxed. (unless you do it for a living like a pro poker player, then it’s income). IIRC contestants on reality tv shows have to be paid for their time (I believe it’s gently caress all, minimum wage or some poo poo) and that would be taxed, but not the prize money. Pretty sure we don’t tax inheritances either.
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The Lord Bude posted:I love Cochran to bits; but I respect his reasoning. Maybe that's Why Survivor AUS are competing for like 300 bucks in Outback giftcards? I can see why you see the taxes as mean, but the alternative seems like a pretty goofy loophole to pay income without taxes. I also see it as a distant cousin of the "wealth" problem, i.e. Rich people don't want to pay their fair dues, and some poor people also somehow don't want the rich to pay their fair dues, just in case they themselves somehow ever become rich. There's a temptation to be all "aww dang but they won, let em keep it" but poo poo, 500,000 is a life-changing wad of money to get. I could pay off my student loans, a feat I will literally never be able to do in my natural lifespan otherwise. That alone would nearly double the amount of income I have to use each month. And if 500k wasn't a life-changing amount of money for a winner.... well gently caress em anyway, they already have too much money.
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The Lord Bude posted:I love Cochran to bits; but I respect his reasoning. I think its 30%. That's the number from a million dollar *ahem* winner from McMillions.
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Binary Logic posted:I think its 30%. That's the number from a million dollar *ahem* winner from McMillions. You have to pay federal tax and state tax, if required, of where the show films (usually California which requires it) and while the numbers vary a bit by state and your tax bracket overall if you receive cash as a prize it usually ends up being in the neighborhood of 45%-50% of total winnings going to taxes.
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