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OwlFancier posted:There's no reason you can't combine them. Earth is a flying saucer and we must secure the delicious sherbet reserves deep within. Jippa posted:A steam powered rocket sounds crazy to start with. It's the one non crazy part. Except he did it with a huge boiler instead of a steam generator. e: The RL10 is a liquid-fuel cryogenic rocket engine built by Aerojet Rocketdyne that burns cryogenic liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen propellants, forming an exhaust jet of high pressure superheated steam. Modern versions produce up to 110 kN (24,729 lbf) of thrust per engine in vacuum. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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I'm pretty sure flat earth is largely an own, where its bad faith actors revel in both how many people seem to believe it and how much airtime it consumes. We don't have the power to change the world meaningfully but maybe for the lulz if I just keep saying the earth is flat I get to see people's reactions and maybe get someone else in on the game, or better yet, a true believer. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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We owe it to the planet to conquer the interior of the earth, defeat the Nazis there, befriend the dinosaurs, and set up solar power plants to harness the power of the little sun that's at the centre.
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Feb 23, 2020 15:10
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Even if it's all 100% sincere, they keep owning everyone by making this bullshit as big as it is. Flat earth is dumb but I give it some respect for just how far it's gotten and its entertainment value.
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Feb 23, 2020 15:15
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That's also how the alt-right happend though. Years of "lol at the normie reactions when I say Gas The Jews haha could you imagine" and then it turns out that there's a critical mass of people joining your clubhouse who do, in fact, completely unironically, want to Gas The Jews and form a white patriarchal ethnostate.
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Also weirdly you end up wanting to do it too. Possibly while still thinking it's very funny as you load people onto the boxcars, as a prank bro.
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The Question IRL posted:So BoJo-a-GoGo, the mad Prime Minister is at it again. Even if No Deal isn't his goal, he's going to incompetence us into it isn't he?
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Lungboy posted:Even if No Deal isn't his goal, he's going to incompetence us into it isn't he? I dunno, I think it's probably more laziness, he might be capable of negotiating a deal if he could be bothered.
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marktheando posted:I dunno, I think it's probably more laziness, he might be capable of negotiating a deal if he could be bothered. The lazier he is, the less likely it is that he ever bothered to learn how to negotiate international trade deals.
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marktheando posted:I dunno, I think it's probably more laziness, he might be capable of negotiating a deal if he could be bothered. I don't think so. Because I don't think the negotiating a complex trade deal is like a homework assignment. Where you can just leave it off to the last second, ask for extensions, throw in some half assed result and get a C - and take that as good enough. And it's definitely not like how films/Boris' own articles for the Torygraph portray it as something that is made over complicated by bureaucrats, and we should simplify it and work something out on the night. It's just a train derailing but in slow motion.
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https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/1231372411934773249
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Shocked.
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Guavanaut posted:Shocked. Liz Mair? More like "Liz Nae Mair"
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President Bernie is getting me fired up again, lets give this another try It shows its not impossible you just need someone personally popular who rallies the working class … Hmm poo poo
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The thing that really exemplifies New Labour to me isn't the Iraq war, it's not the ID cards or the hard push on racism. It's that in 1997, after near two decade of pure tory evil the likes of which we'd never seen, one of the first big things they did was cut benefits to single mothers. No political pressure to do so, literally had just won a historic victory and they swung against single mothers. Pointlessly cruel and indistinguishable from the Tories.
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It's PFIs for me. Sure, let's continue to slowly privatise and demolish the single best and biggest achievement of any socialist government this country and possibly the world has ever had.
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PFI is what you get when you think you can trust businesses not to try to get the most money out of you. Centrists have this murderous naivety to them. The thing about "the left hates success" is that sure Blair won the election, but the new Labour government was an utter failure. We are trying to avoid failing at what matters rather than the fun media show of an election. It just so happens we also failed at that but... Quiet you!
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I still don't think "we" failed at that as much as the shitbag brigade pulled out all the stops to make it happen and then blamed us for it. "Why is has the left put all this poo poo in my pants?" I exclaim, by modulating my arsehole such that the torrential discharge therefrom briefly mimics human language.
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Feb 23, 2020 16:59
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RIP mad mike. You wanted to prove the earth was flat, instead you made it a little less so.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/2b3f3f67-2338-4253-b7f5-a36192885492 Thrilled to see the beeb getting in on the exciting new trend of "Want a 2nd job? Make £££ from home!" signs at roundabouts, jfc.
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This is even worse than £££ from home though. This is 'throw your money at the stock market/money exchange yourself'. No mention of how rich his family is. No mention of how much money he started out with.
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happyhippy posted:This is even worse than £££ from home though. the article says he grew up on a council estate so I'm betting that he didn't exactly start out with a 6-figure tax-free loan from mummy and daddy
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happyhippy posted:This is even worse than £££ from home though. I'd put money on the fact he hired those cars and is now selling his advice to poor saps that believe the BBC article.
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"my younger brother is a professional footballer" is certainly a weird element. Also, uh... quote:"If I see kids who are younger than me who know me and they're like 'Can I have a look at your car Ash?' I’ll let them sit in my car and try to motivate them, because it's what I wish I had when I was growing up."
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OwlFancier posted:"my younger brother is a professional footballer" is certainly a weird element. This dude desperately wants to gently caress people in his car.
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Assuming he started aged 16, he's apparently got to 200k a year in four years, self taught immediately after failing his GCSEs, through a career choice that is risky at the best of times. It reeks of bullshit, but then all of these stories do, and almost always are.
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OwlFancier posted:"my younger brother is a professional footballer" is certainly a weird element. Professional footballer doesn't = minted though. Could be a 4th division player earning £500/week.
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josh04 posted:Spoilered for mildly unpleasant detail. Do you think he suffered
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Assuming he started aged 16, he's apparently got to 200k a year in four years, self taught immediately after failing his GCSEs, through a career choice that is risky at the best of times. At best, it's basically "lottery winner tells people that playing the lottery is a good career choice"
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Gonzo McFee posted:The thing that really exemplifies New Labour to me isn't the Iraq war, it's not the ID cards or the hard push on racism. That plus emboldening the 'benefit scrounger' narrative to the point where even people reliant on benefits believed it and bringing in the start of private assessors and ESA.
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Immigration too. I don't know who started but I remember the phrase "bogus asylum seekers" being used constantly back then.
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OwlFancier posted:I still don't think "we" failed at that as much as the shitbag brigade pulled out all the stops to make it happen and then blamed us for it. I think it's fine to admit we failed. We certainly didn't succeed. "Wot do we do when we fol down, master Bruce?" "I never fell down, Alfred, it was those blairites wot pushed me!" Obviously there were poo poo loads of things against us and the wreckers spent 5 years wrecking things and now are trying to say they're the reasonable ones who can win. But that wasn't a surprise, we knew that the whole time we just didn't overcome the odds like we wanted. I'm up for another go though.
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Communist Thoughts posted:I think it's fine to admit we failed. We certainly didn't succeed. I mean no I really do not agree that it was "us" who did wrong, especially not when the people who are asserting that are exactly the same people who did the pushing and who are now claiming they can fix it. I see absolutely no benefit in self flagellation when the problem is right in front of you and claiming it actually wasn't the problem. It would be dishonest and harmful to suggest that the left was at fault when the right is trying to claim it's going to rescue us from their own sabotage, it is far better to tell them to gently caress off and spit in their eye. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:I mean no I really do not agree that it was "us" who did wrong, especially not when the people who are asserting that are exactly the same people who did the pushing and who are now claiming they can fix it. I see absolutely no benefit in self flagellation when the problem is right in front of you and claiming it actually wasn't the problem. I'm of the mind that 'we' (as a loose definition of lefts who actually give a gently caress about changing things and not just Getting Elected) failed insofar as we put our faith in democratic means, and its now clear that is not what's going to change things. But also I dunno I suspect that might make me a bit  relative to the thread.
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bionic vapour boy posted:I'm of the mind that 'we' (as a loose definition of lefts who actually give a gently caress about changing things and not just Getting Elected) failed insofar as we put our faith in democratic means, and its now clear that is not what's going to change things. But also I dunno I suspect that might make me a bit Not even slightly, I don't think, it's just most of us don't say it, because it doesn't really help, when we're neither able nor honestly willing to pursue the alternative.
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bionic vapour boy posted:I'm of the mind that 'we' (as a loose definition of lefts who actually give a gently caress about changing things and not just Getting Elected) failed insofar as we put our faith in democratic means, and its now clear that is not what's going to change things. But also I dunno I suspect that might make me a bit I would probably suggest that while it is unlikely to change things, successful extraelectoral revolutionary action is even less likely to change things, unfortunately, if only because electoral success is more likely to happen and function as a release valve before revolutionary action builds sufficient momentum.
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