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I'm kinda running out of steam on NGU, I've manually killed Exile V3 to get the gear maxed out and have been doing 24 hour runs for what feels like forever but still haven't even gotten to the point where I can AK V3. The whole time I've been doing cards, quests, perks, hacks & wishes but I feel like I've barely budged. I guess after this hump would be Sadistic which would probably be enough of a change to get me going again but I'm not totally sure I can stick it out at this rate.
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That's how I've felt for a while, even though I'm only just starting evil. Like, it's an idle game, I get it, but at least for me my interest started to wane after the first wall where fully-upgraded equipment is no longer sufficient to progress, and you're suddenly stuck waiting for days/weeks/months for your NGUs to crawl up and exp/AP to farm high enough to buy your way over the next wall. I'm far enough in that I'll probably stick it out at least to get to the end of whatever the current content set is, but it felt much easier to stay engaged earlier in the game when there were always multiple vectors you could pursue to change/improve your schtick.
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Feb 23, 2020 05:07
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Omi no Kami posted:Oh neat, I only needed to raise the Exp boost to 10k% (I have like 900 levels in rich perk I, so it probably made the difference). Thanks! The biggest reason I've seen to idle in normal rather than evil at that point is to raise your diggers, because you will take a significant gold hit once you enter evil. But even then...eh, you're better off just suffering through evil. It doesn't take too long for your Evil Gold NGU to make up that difference. Plus, the boost to PP from being in Evil is a very nice boon.
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Feb 23, 2020 05:34
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I run out of steam on ngu every now and again but even if all you do is a long long rebirth with ngus running you still come back with a lot to do. Just sayin Also there discord is the real gem
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Feb 23, 2020 05:45
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Turns out I'm an idiot about the milestones I read it wrong
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Feb 23, 2020 06:00
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Eldercain posted:I run out of steam on ngu every now and again but even if all you do is a long long rebirth with ngus running you still come back with a lot to do. That's about what I've been doing- yggdrasil and repeat a few times a week and/or forget it's installed for a while, then come back big & strong. ^^
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Feb 23, 2020 07:09
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explosivo posted:I'm kinda running out of steam on NGU, I've manually killed Exile V3 to get the gear maxed out and have been doing 24 hour runs for what feels like forever but still haven't even gotten to the point where I can AK V3. The whole time I've been doing cards, quests, perks, hacks & wishes but I feel like I've barely budged. I guess after this hump would be Sadistic which would probably be enough of a change to get me going again but I'm not totally sure I can stick it out at this rate.
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Feb 23, 2020 08:56
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Ghostlight posted:Stop rebirthing and let your adv training and beards accumulate so that you get into AK range. This. Long rebirths are a thing. It'd be cool if there was an option to reallocate all your resources based on a saved template.
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Feb 23, 2020 10:04
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Ghostlight posted:Stop rebirthing and let your adv training and beards accumulate so that you get into AK range. Yea I also turned on my diggers for NGU/Beards/Blood and would hit the Iron Pill and spend all my XP on adventure stats.
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Feb 23, 2020 20:53
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Eldercain posted:Turns out I'm an idiot about the milestones I read it wrong Not wrong, just not paying attention. It definitely takes a while for the milestones to update properly.
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Feb 23, 2020 21:23
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A few more things I learned about the Pet Vats in Idle Skilling: The pets you put in tanks to train on the first screen give their bonus even after you take them out (each species gets one bonus). So it makes sense to get lots of good level 1 skills by swapping guys in and out, rather than going deep on a 5-day skill with one pet For the vats that let you upgrade RP rate for one color / all colors, prioritize the one color upgrade - you can have 2x for all vats, or 200x for one type of vat (each one type). Spend a little on the all-bonus, but I did that too much and it really delayed me. It'll be a long time before you can reach 150 in the 2nd upgrade to unlock the third.
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Feb 24, 2020 05:01
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/603390/Stone_Story_RPG/ Stone Story is on sale for $15 down from $20 until the 29th. It's a really unique take on an idle game, and also has incredible music, which is something fun that you don't get to say very often about idle games. Strong recommend. edit: Specifically if you're a fan of stuff like A Dark Room or Spaceplan with a more narrative bent. There's a LOT of game there but it's not necessarily meant to be something that you play infinitely. goferchan fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Feb 24, 2020 |
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Feb 24, 2020 06:03
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Oooh you can dick around with scripting in the game itself to drive your little idle buddy around. That sounds very much like my jam.
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Feb 24, 2020 07:01
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Bedurndurn posted:Oooh you can dick around with scripting in the game itself to drive your little idle buddy around. That sounds very much like my jam. Yeah in-game that's sort of the big post-"ascension" paradigm shift and it's wild and not like anything I've ever seen before. Update that came out the other day massively expanded the scripting language, too-- it even includes a few minigames like Solitaire etc that were made with it, just to show off. Be prepared for the game to be pretty hands-on at first, though. I may have even been wrong even calling it an "idle game" but I think it's got a ton of aspects that people who appreciate idlers will enjoy.
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Feb 24, 2020 07:12
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What's faster when I first hit Evil mode, doing a ton of 1-hour rebirths to take advantage of early bonuses and a single level of fruit, or 24-hour rebirths to get a full hit of yggdrasil every time?
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Feb 24, 2020 10:32
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Omi no Kami posted:What's faster when I first hit Evil mode, doing a ton of 1-hour rebirths to take advantage of early bonuses and a single level of fruit, or 24-hour rebirths to get a full hit of yggdrasil every time? Get to evilverse boss fast, then back to 24 asap
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Feb 24, 2020 10:42
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Omi no Kami posted:What's faster when I first hit Evil mode, doing a ton of 1-hour rebirths to take advantage of early bonuses and a single level of fruit, or 24-hour rebirths to get a full hit of yggdrasil every time? clear boss 58 with 1 hours and then do a bunch of 24 hours until you hit 125
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Feb 24, 2020 14:30
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Not wrong, just not paying attention. It definitely takes a while for the milestones to update properly. It turns out there was an issue where the milestones would not update properly unless you had opened the milestones menu at least once during your current session, which is very not ideal. New build 108 should fix the issue. Web version is up now, android version should become available in 1 to 3 hours. On the topic of milestones, I don't know if it's clear or not, but the resource bonus from all of the region max zone milestones are always active even if you're not in that region, and the stat bonuses from class level milestones are always active even if you're not currently using that class.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:00
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shs posted:On the topic of milestones, I don't know if it's clear or not, but the resource bonus from all of the region max zone milestones are always active even if you're not in that region, and the stat bonuses from class level milestones are always active even if you're not currently using that class. The milestone text seems pretty clear on that. Why does some classes show +1 to them? For example Crusader +1
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Feb 24, 2020 15:23
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Some of the creation upgrades give a boost to pure / neutral / evil classes. The +1 is how many times that type of class has been upgraded.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:34
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Omi no Kami posted:What's faster when I first hit Evil mode, doing a ton of 1-hour rebirths to take advantage of early bonuses and a single level of fruit, or 24-hour rebirths to get a full hit of yggdrasil every time? Also, instantly go into a basic challenge when you get into Evil.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:56
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The Elves bloodline in Realm Grinder seems REALLY GOOD. Just hit R7 and it's great being able to jump right off the starting line rather than having to wait around to gather the faction coins to unlock faction upgrades.
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Feb 24, 2020 22:29
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Pope Guilty posted:The Elves bloodline in Realm Grinder seems REALLY GOOD. Just hit R7 and it's great being able to jump right off the starting line rather than having to wait around to gather the faction coins to unlock faction upgrades. Every bloodline is really good at one point or another.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:10
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Not the Druids.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:16
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Samuringa posted:Not the Druids. It's been used in a few builds over the years, although they're always weird niche things for a very specific goal.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:20
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Druids is good for Trophies.
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Feb 25, 2020 01:20
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One weird trick (browser vendors hate it) I discovered is that if a browser tab isn't focused but has sound playing, then it won't be affected by background tab throttling and will continue to run at full speed. So in a game like mine which has music, if you set the music volume to a small amount but not at zero (or possibly set it to any value above zero then mute the tab) then it will run at full speed even if the tab isn't focused. That's how it seems to work, anyway. Someone with more knowledge can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Feb 25, 2020 17:35
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There's a neat sort of idle game on kongregate called cividlization 2 that mixes a bit of civilization with idling to get resources and real time strategy. You can capture cities and send units out, but it takes a while realtime to have them get anywhere. It's pretty fun!
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Feb 25, 2020 18:11
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In Idle Skilling I can't get the Spelunking resource that I need to make the Machinery upgrade that lets me convert materials for the life of me. I looked it up and I think it's "Ore Veins" that I need 8 of, but every time I dive down I come back up with a bunch of the higher level resources and none of this one that I need. I *think* what I need to do is make sure to cut off the spelunking dive early in like the first pip of the bar so I only come back with the low grade materials but at this point I've upgraded the guy a bunch of times and only seem to be getting the high grade materials. It's frustrating as hell. I guess when I finally get the ability to build the machinery I'll have a lot of the resources to convert but it feels like I hosed myself over by upgrading past the point I was supposed to be at or something.
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Feb 25, 2020 19:01
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You definitely need at least one machine ASAP for exactly that reason. Two things you can do: first, look at the Spelunking page here, because it'll tell you exactly what treasure you'll get from what bag. Furthermore, when your spelunker dives, it'll show you exactly what bag you'll get under extract. If you have your spelunker dive and your starting bag quality is too high, you have a problem. At that point, your only recourse will be to unlock a new spelunker and get the resource with that. And then get that machine immediately. Arzaac fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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Feb 25, 2020 19:14
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explosivo posted:In Idle Skilling I can't get the Spelunking resource that I need to make the Machinery upgrade that lets me convert materials for the life of me. I looked it up and I think it's "Ore Veins" that I need 8 of, but every time I dive down I come back up with a bunch of the higher level resources and none of this one that I need. I *think* what I need to do is make sure to cut off the spelunking dive early in like the first pip of the bar so I only come back with the low grade materials but at this point I've upgraded the guy a bunch of times and only seem to be getting the high grade materials. It's frustrating as hell. I guess when I finally get the ability to build the machinery I'll have a lot of the resources to convert but it feels like I hosed myself over by upgrading past the point I was supposed to be at or something. Yeah, you used a ton of the Tier 1 and 2 materials to upgrade your dude, so it's unfortunate that it's possible to lock yourself out like that. Spelunking is from the most recent update, I wouldn't be surprised if they added something like making the Tier 1 bag have a chance at the low-tier material to let you step backwards like you need.
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Oh you know what, I just realized that you start getting the low level bags almost immediately. I thought the pips in the progress bar indicated when you could extract and get something. I just got the two I needed by pulling out like 30 seconds into a dive  Edit: Oh yeah this is much easier lol. I was doing full rear end 12 hour runs and getting frustrated by not getting what I needed without realizing that you don't get *any* of the lower tier materials when you open up a higher leveled bag. explosivo fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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Feb 25, 2020 19:28
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I'm to the point where my Spelunkers are requiring candles, and I can still get a basic bag (or no bag at all) if I extract ASAP, so maybe there isn't much of a problem there? Regardless, it wouldn't take much to give everyone a machine as a freebie, and it would completely eliminate the problem.
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Well, in the unenviable position of reaching boss 301 on Evil and yet the last Titan v4 is a full magnitude away from auto-kill, 4-5x from recommended manual killing on NGU. I see 24 hour rebirths in my future, so many rebirths.
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A few people have mentioned getting stuck on Exile v3 and v4, and I was too for months, what helped me was realizing that siphoning exp into adventure stats gave pretty significant value at the time. I don't think there's really any time before that where it's worth putting it in anything other than normal stats so it's easy to forget that's something you can do. It will still take at least weeks, even with cards I imagine.
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explosivo posted:Oh you know what, I just realized that you start getting the low level bags almost immediately. I thought the pips in the progress bar indicated when you could extract and get something. I just got the two I needed by pulling out like 30 seconds into a dive The tiny bag at the bottom represents the quality of your bag - one bronze star is the lowest rank, you can watch it slowly get more stars as you wait
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Manyorcas posted:A few people have mentioned getting stuck on Exile v3 and v4, and I was too for months, what helped me was realizing that siphoning exp into adventure stats gave pretty significant value at the time. I don't think there's really any time before that where it's worth putting it in anything other than normal stats so it's easy to forget that's something you can do. I've done that somewhat already, dumping in about 3.5E+09 into Power and 2.4E+09 Toughness or approximately 18 Billion Exp total. - Adventure Hacks at 3000 - Adventure Wishes Maxed - Quirks missing Adv. Boost For Rich Quirks II - Adv Training BB and up at 5.9E+007 (~60 Million) - Perks missing Adventure Boost For Rich Perks III and Adventure Hacks Milestone Reducer Sage Grimm fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Feb 26, 2020 |
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Feb 26, 2020 05:47
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Manyorcas posted:A few people have mentioned getting stuck on Exile v3 and v4, and I was too for months, what helped me was realizing that siphoning exp into adventure stats gave pretty significant value at the time. I don't think there's really any time before that where it's worth putting it in anything other than normal stats so it's easy to forget that's something you can do. What helped me was not to spread out the EXP to all the adventure stats just to focus it all in POW. I was dumping about 2,000,000,000 exp a day in just POW. Took me about a month from v3 to manual v4. That was without any cards bonus until the very end.
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Whats the maximum amount of exp you can get from fruit of knowledge? I've got it up to level 24 and when i ate it with poop and both fruit of knowledge sucks perks, i only got about 70k exp. I'm sure someone mentioned earlier they got about 150k a day with it.
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Kin posted:Whats the maximum amount of exp you can get from fruit of knowledge? I've got it up to level 24 and when i ate it with poop and both fruit of knowledge sucks perks, i only got about 70k exp. Various features will multiply the amount of exp you receive, so what you get from FoK keeps increasing even after you've max-levelled it.
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