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Happy New Year! | 38 | 22.22% | |
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Total: | 171 votes |
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Arist posted:I enjoy SAO, my own "oh I see why they would do this even if I disagree" is more the uh, Goblin Slayer thing If you see it you're my enemy.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:21 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 04:04 |
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Ive become what i never thought i would and now have to defend goblin slayer from being the catalyst for an aged and conservative government doing a ridiculous show trial and polemic against an entire country's artistic output.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:23 |
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Politics makes strange bedfellows, as they say.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:25 |
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Arist posted:I enjoy SAO, my own "oh I see why they would do this even if I disagree" is more the uh, Goblin Slayer thing It's amazing how things change when a nerd hobby about watching foreign cartoons with the blood and sex becomes mainstream. No complaints in the 80s and 90s because barely any of it came overseas, and normal people weren't watching it, much less their kids.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:26 |
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again, i'm not pro-censorship, I'm mostly just saying I'm shocked it took this long for that show to attract this kind of attention
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:27 |
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I mean like Sharky said it's all a show trial, so it only attracted this kind of attention because someone felt like they needed to morally grandstand.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:34 |
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Mister Facetious posted:It's amazing how things change when a nerd hobby about watching foreign cartoons with the blood and sex becomes mainstream. Normal people still don't watch Goblin Slayer.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:39 |
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Toshimo posted:Normal people still don't watch Goblin Slayer. They see their kids watching it on Crunchyroll and flip out. Same as when their parents saw kids their age playing Mortal Kombat and doing fatalities.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:40 |
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having a discussion about whether people should be morally judged for watching a controversial anime that was moderately popular is just about the stupidest turn we could take with this conversation
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:42 |
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wasn't gs the most popular anime on crunchyroll the season it aired? I'm pretty sure normal people do watch it, unfortunately
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:43 |
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That was mainly in the beginning of the season where people were checking out the controversy and trying to own the libs but I think it dropped off as the season went on and people realized the show was just kinda bad.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:45 |
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normal people watch game of thrones
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:51 |
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Waffleman_ posted:That was mainly in the beginning of the season where people were checking out the controversy and trying to own the libs but I think it dropped off as the season went on and people realized the show was just kinda bad. Toshimo posted:Normal people still don't watch Goblin Slayer.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:52 |
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What if normal people aren't real?
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:53 |
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A month into the season is what I would call near the beginning of the season, yes.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:55 |
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The idea that the average person does any moral examination of the art they're consuming is completely ridiculous, by the way. Stuff like Judge Judy, Live PD, or any number of reality shows that market themselves off the suffering of real people are insanely popular, but a work of fiction that uses sexual assault as a clumsy, overbearing threat is a bridge too far?
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:59 |
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Waffleman_ posted:A month into the season is what I would call near the beginning of the season, yes. also I don't think most people watching gs were even aware of the controversy. they probably went "wow cool dark fantasy show" and skipped completely over the bad stuff
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 18:59 |
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It's because it's from a foreign country and also a lot of people still think all animation is for children.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:00 |
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All that sounds incredibly boring, ngl.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:02 |
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like I wanted to avoid talking about the content of goblin slayer because I haven't seen it and can therefore only regurgitate and synthesize other people's opinions, but here's my take: it's bad. the eroticization of sexual violence is obviously bad, and the presentation of an evil race of demihumans who are simultaneously evil and free-willed and who live as parasites on society and who go unchecked despite causing massive problems because ~people aren't willing to talk about it~—that's bad. but it's only slightly exaggerated compared to every work of Tolkien-derived fantasy—and therefore every work of D&D-derived fantasy—featuring orc-like "demi-humans", which is a hell of a lot of fantasy. if you've consumed a lot of fantasy, it's not impossible to totally gloss over the weird goblin stuff as genre convention
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:03 |
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piss
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:05 |
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Motto posted:piss
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:08 |
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i don't care whether someone likes goblin slayer or shield hero or whatever. i care if someone is being weird or a jackass but i literally could not care whatsoever about whether they like a dumb popular dark fantasy anime. this conversation is entirely pointless and irrelevant and having it literally does not do anything of worth for anyone at all
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:08 |
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Motto posted:piss
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:09 |
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Endorph posted:no thats magical girl raising project I wanted to like that one but I was just "who gives a poo poo" four episodes in.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:15 |
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Mister Facetious posted:I wanted to like that one but I was just "who gives a poo poo" four episodes in.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:24 |
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The Colonel posted:i don't care whether someone likes goblin slayer or shield hero or whatever. i care if someone is being weird or a jackass but i literally could not care whatsoever about whether they like a dumb popular dark fantasy anime. this conversation is entirely pointless and irrelevant and having it literally does not do anything of worth for anyone at all
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:37 |
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save eromanga sensei
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:40 |
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Wark Say posted:There's this article in TV Tropes that describes the "Eight Deadly Words", and I always found it a bit funny that they simply did not change it to the more common "I don't give a gently caress/poo poo about these people/characters". Like every friend/acquaintance/mutual of SMS always uses that expression or the spanish/portuguese/Japanese equivalent of that. It's never "Oh, I could care less about the plot" or "I don't care what happens to these people". It's always expletive-filled/angry.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 19:42 |
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homeless snail posted:save eromanga sensei save emily granger
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:10 |
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gonna go full old man and say isekai is ruining Audible and needs to be stopped. it's saturating the science fantasy genre with mediocre litrpg garbage and bad tropes that conventional authors mostly moved away from years ago. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 26, 2020 |
# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:20 |
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Meh. I'm not gonna watch it so I don't give a poo poo
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:23 |
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I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of Anime as being members of the isekai anime and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the anime industry.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:30 |
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chumbler posted:What if normal people aren't real? Sorry. I should have said that well-adjusted people don't watch Goblin Slayer, instead. And, no, apparently, well-adjusted people don't exist.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:39 |
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Toshimo posted:Sorry. I should have said that well-adjusted people don't watch Goblin Slayer, instead. And, no, apparently, well-adjusted people don't exist. Well-adjusted anime watchers...
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:42 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Well-adjusted anime watchers... Like any good salaryman, I just pick up my biweekly copy of Golgo 13 at the news stand.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:43 |
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Mister Facetious posted:gonna go full old man and say isekai is ruining Audible and needs to be stopped.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:49 |
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Just to be clear, I'm not particularly averse to sex or violence. I don't see an issue with Berserk or Gantz or Tokyo Ghoul using brutality as a tool. I even think you can have a good old fashioned horny af anime that is also very violent like Dorohedoro. But, I think when you write a story about stereotypical otherized beings that can only survive as a species by kidnapping and raping women to death and proceed to make a manga and an anime where this is repeatedly made visually prominent, then maybe that becoming a mainstream hit should be an indication of the industry needing some sort of self-reflection about what sort of culture of fandom it is supporting. If that makes me the weirdo minority in the paradigm, I'll live with that.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:56 |
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Mister Facetious posted:litrpg Please do not bring the cursed genre into this comfy place.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 20:58 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 04:04 |
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Toshimo posted:Like any good salaryman, I just pick up my biweekly copy of Golgo 13 at the news stand. Thanks, Gramps.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 21:15 |