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Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"
I'm usually one to roll my eyes or laugh when I see somebody complain about having to hear rap in a commercial.

But that choice for the TV spot was dumb as hell.

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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
At least it's getting the reception it deserves:



Let's hope that that's the only negative mark this game gets.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



DatonKallandor posted:

I was about to mention the Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 3 ads as extremely good. The Bartholomew trailer for DS1 is still fantastic, and the Dark Souls 3 launch trailer was also great. They're a master class in how to do non-game music for a trailer and still have it work. They also bothered to actually sync the visuals to the music, which seems like too much of a bother for whoever threw that doom trailer together.

in between they had the dark souls 2 trailer set to... jethro tull?

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

I think that they made the music bad on purpose so that they could make it an internet meme. Like 200 IQ Pro-Gamer-Strat viral marketing

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

DoctorStrangelove posted:

I think that they made the music bad on purpose so that they could make it an internet meme. Like 200 IQ Pro-Gamer-Strat viral marketing

If they wanted to make an internet meme they should have just used the bunny music. It would have sufficed for Animal Crossing music and reinforced Slayer and Isabelle being best buds, plus the older fanbase would have cracked up at it.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
How are they not using an edit of The Only Thing They Fear Is You? That track is practically made for a 30 second ad cut.

Doom is not a game that needs an ad soundtrack that differs from the game soundtrack.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



let's just fondly reminisce about how good the launch trailer for doom 2016 was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO90omga8D4

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Didn't Doom 2016 launch with a stupid embargo on reviews so we were all panicking about it being poo poo (mostly based on being worried from rumors of Doom 4's shittiness) and then it turned out to be amazing but still hurt sales?

Eternal meanwhile had them showing the entire game to press and the press singing praises about how confident they are

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Spiderdrake posted:

Didn't Doom 2016 launch with a stupid embargo on reviews so we were all panicking about it being poo poo (mostly based on being worried from rumors of Doom 4's shittiness) and then it turned out to be amazing but still hurt sales?

Bethesda was seemingly going out of their way to make people expect the worst from Doom 2016, with a review embargo that didn't end until the game's release, and the pre-release demo being for the multiplayer if I recall correctly.

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

Don't forget the infamous gamepad demos, and many people (including me) thinking that glory kills were just a horrible, horrible idea until they actually got to play it. 'Press a button to watch a non-interactive death animation' sounds terrible on paper

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


:dukedog:
Offensive Clock
Then Nvidia released a video with PC M/KB gameplay, and everyone was "wait gently caress this game seems good after all"

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Chadzok posted:

Don't forget the infamous gamepad demos, and many people (including me) thinking that glory kills were just a horrible, horrible idea until they actually got to play it. 'Press a button to watch a non-interactive death animation' sounds terrible on paper

Not to mention that in the original marketing, glory kills seemed like they took about as long as a Mortal Kombat fatality from start to finish.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I was surprised when I saw that rough preview of the original "realistic" Doom 4 gameplay that glory kills were a feature that survived basically unchanged. Same animations even. I wouldn't have expected stomping imp skulls to come from the more grounded version of Doom.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I still like the original doom 4 reveal trailer. It's not rip and tear but it is a pretty indulgent look at HD violence and the music matches.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The more polished Doom 4 footage looked almost exactly like the linear parts of Rage

side_burned
Nov 3, 2004

My mother is a fish.

Arcsquad12 posted:

If you want to do soundtrack dissonance THIS is how it's done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmmXd8r4YQ

How is Deathwing? Does it have an value beyond getting to use some iconic 40k guns in an fps?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Spiderdrake posted:

Holy poo poo is playing new Colossus after Doom 2016 just the saddest loving thing. The introduction of Doom 2016 is straight fire mainlined into your brain.

This is straight boring poo poo holy gently caress how do they make shooters so flat mediocre. This is the flat soda pop experience. I got up and left the room during the lovely cutscenes, they were still going when I came back. Then some racism, I shot a dog and now I'm in a wheelchair. The last part is cool, but then it got boring again.

Eternal really can't come out soon enough.

Wolfenstein other then the original Wolf3d has always been boring torture porn skating by on how "nazis are bad." It's never been innovative, interesting, or even fun really. In fact the shittiness of Wolfenstien was one of the reasons I waited so long to get into Doom 2016. But man, is Doom 2016 so good. Super stoked for Eternal.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



side_burned posted:

How is Deathwing? Does it have an value beyond getting to use some iconic 40k guns in an fps?

I never played it, but I’ve got a buddy who loved it. Then again, he’s got a Deathwing army to play on tabletop so he was probably always going to love it :v:

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

David D. Davidson posted:

https://youtu.be/E2hytfsXExM

Dear Bethesda

Fire your marketing team.

Love people who still love you after Fallout 76

https://twitter.com/S20_TBL/status/1232139259152224256

BaconCopter
Feb 13, 2008

:coolfish:

:coolfish:
https://twitter.com/KinoFabino/status/1232082272054059010

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You

side_burned posted:

How is Deathwing? Does it have an value beyond getting to use some iconic 40k guns in an fps?

I had asked about it in the Martyr thread and was told if you enjoy making GBS threads around in power armor shooting hordes of dudes for Warhammer nostalgia dopamine release, this game was it. But if you expected Left 4 Dead levels of tight gameplay, you were going to be disappointed.

I bought it for the former and it was good but even after it's relaunch I can tell it was rough. The AI is just not smart. But holy poo poo if you can convince 3 friends who are also fans of the universe to play with you over discord it's a rip roaring time where you're praising the emperor and purging heresy every 5 seconds. You wont care which powers and guns are the meta because a true space marine holds the trigger down until the entire room stops moving.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

David D. Davidson posted:

https://youtu.be/E2hytfsXExM

Dear Bethesda

Fire your marketing team.

Love people who still love you after Fallout 76

I mean they should have been fired with how bad Doom 2016's marketing was.

Like, what is this genre anyway? It just feels like anything that sounds like this can be summed up as "trailer music."

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

That spot is up there with Dragon Age’s “this is the new poo poo” trailer.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004


This loving owns, I need and want it on my Doom levels.

Like whenever he's swinging on bars or using the Meat Hook to cross the levels the chorus needs to be blaring.

Jiro fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Feb 27, 2020

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

TaurusOxford posted:

Bethesda was seemingly going out of their way to make people expect the worst from Doom 2016, with a review embargo that didn't end until the game's release, and the pre-release demo being for the multiplayer if I recall correctly.

It was a terrible marketing campaign, too. It started with two E3 trailers: that famously dull-looking one in the foundry, and a better one that took place in hell. Then from there on out, the only single-player they would show was almost nothing but developers showing off glory kills in dull-looking levels with controllers. After that came the multiplayer beta, and it was poorly-received for lots of reasons. Bethesda then just focused down entirely on the multiplayer from that point, making it look like it was going to flop like every AAA FPS that tried to focus on multi. I only remember people thinking the game might not suck when NVIDIA did some presentation where a guy played an un-scripted section of the game with mouse and keyboard and it actually looked fun.

Bethesda has just been desperate for a multiplayer game that they can use to get themselves a recurrent revenue stream, and Doom almost became a casualty to that.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


This would be the best one for the trailer. She's even getting attacked by a very flamboyant imp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
I have to keep reminding myself that TV spot is not for anyone who has ever heard of Doom before, much less played it.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

side_burned posted:

How is Deathwing? Does it have an value beyond getting to use some iconic 40k guns in an fps?

Honestly not that great. The singleplayer is poo poo but the Multiplayer can be a blast when it works right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67R-sfff9g

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


A.o.D. posted:

I have to keep reminding myself that TV spot is not for anyone who has ever heard of Doom before, much less played it.

Yeah but why would you choose that music instead of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vC3LbvGKBg&t=111s

It's even the right length without editing.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

veni veni veni posted:

This would be the best one for the trailer. She's even getting attacked by a very flamboyant imp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM

I would be down for an alt soundtrack just made up of 80's cheese.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Jiro posted:

I would be down for an alt soundtrack just made up of 80's cheese.

I come from a land down under

slow_twitch
Sep 21, 2005

side_burned posted:

How is Deathwing? Does it have an value beyond getting to use some iconic 40k guns in an fps?

Just want to echo what a few others have said. The SP is a chore but multiplayer is really great if you are interested in anything wh40k and/or space Hulk. There are probably half a dozen servers up at most these days but you can almost always get a co-op game going quickly.

EE added some character customization options but just lol that they keep it full price on steam..

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I hope that the Plasma Rifle feels better in Eternal. It's certainly the most anemic feeling gun in DOOM2016. Even the pistol feels better when you get a charged shot off.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Wolfenstein other then the original Wolf3d has always been boring torture porn skating by on how "nazis are bad." It's never been innovative, interesting, or even fun really. In fact the shittiness of Wolfenstien was one of the reasons I waited so long to get into Doom 2016.
I dunno I kinda thought new order was, while hit or miss in parts, decent. This one, torture porn is a real good way of assigning its place. Why does it start with me shooting a dog other than the fact the people behind it weren't aiming to produce something fun? I dunno, bored, uninstalled, move on with my life.

Arcsquad12 posted:

I hope that the Plasma Rifle feels better in Eternal. It's certainly the most anemic feeling gun in DOOM2016. Even the pistol feels better when you get a charged shot off.
I found the plasma rifle really confusing. It's super useful for fighting middle tier enemies, but it felt like you could empty half your ammo reserve into a stunned revenant before it staggered. And the heat blast seemed like it didn't work as described. I fell out of using it, when really, it's probably your best tool for killing pinkies which I found consistently annoying.

The Og Plasma Rifle kinda fell into a similar spot since generally a BFG shot uses the cells better, so, often forgot to flip to when useful.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Arcsquad12 posted:

I hope that the Plasma Rifle feels better in Eternal. It's certainly the most anemic feeling gun in DOOM2016. Even the pistol feels better when you get a charged shot off.

Yeah. Great gun but not very fun to use imo. It felt like shooting bath bubbles or something.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
Welp somebody went and did it right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynl5R9T67v4

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Spiderdrake posted:

I dunno I kinda thought new order was, while hit or miss in parts, decent. This one, torture porn is a real good way of assigning its place. Why does it start with me shooting a dog other than the fact the people behind it weren't aiming to produce something fun?

Because my dad is literally hitler. gently caress you dad!

Squatch Ambassador
Nov 12, 2008

What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?

veni veni veni posted:

This would be the best one for the trailer. She's even getting attacked by a very flamboyant imp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM

https://twitter.com/Konjuro/status/1232875790804537344

Turned out better than I expected. But bitrate of the embedded tweet really butchers the audio.

E: Youtube turned out better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIWYT49mjY

Squatch Ambassador fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Feb 27, 2020

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Spiderdrake posted:

I found the plasma rifle really confusing. It's super useful for fighting middle tier enemies, but it felt like you could empty half your ammo reserve into a stunned revenant before it staggered. And the heat blast seemed like it didn't work as described. I fell out of using it, when really, it's probably your best tool for killing pinkies which I found consistently annoying.

The Og Plasma Rifle kinda fell into a similar spot since generally a BFG shot uses the cells better, so, often forgot to flip to when useful.

The best Plasma Rifle is the Quake 3 one. It created a slick surface that would affect movement the faster the player was moving, which would cause them to lose control so that they would either fall off a bridge, or be able to easily be predicted for a follow up Nade or Rocket. New Doom Plasma rifle could do something interesting like that maybe.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Is Doomslayer the same as DoomGuy or just a reboot? I think it would be awesome if he's the same guy who just happened to wake up in a different reality where the UAC are doing the same poo poo he tried to stop in his own first iteration.

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