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Perhaps we should have an effort post on the coronavirus and what we actually have to be worried about? I'm sure I'm not the only person getting anxiety from this.
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Feb 27, 2020 07:41
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Classon Ave. Robot posted:Nobody posting in C-spam should be particularly worried about coronavirus. Even if it gets real big in North America it's mostly just going to kill old people, which is unarguably a good thing. It might hurt "the economy", but honestly how many people here have any fuckin stake in the economy? It's a bunch of fake numbers being moved around by rich people, the dumbass stock numbers eventually went back up after they crashed in 2008 but they certainly never had any positive effect on my life or anyone I've known. The only reason to be worried is if Mayo Pete gets it on purpose then coughs on Bernie on stage to try to get rid of him, but that's not something that anyone here can control. I work in the mobile phone industry, the condo I just bought is like 90% Chinese owned, and my work is in a Chinese area so it could affect me. But I'm guessing it'll whimper out like all the ones before it. I am showing early cold/flu symptoms right now. Yay!
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Feb 27, 2020 08:15
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Equeen posted:Another rejection after I what thought was one of my best interviews. I thought I made an honest connection with the interviewer while giving good answers. God, I'm a failure. What's wrong me, is it my speech, how I look, am I too low energy? Am I just that undeserving of having a decent paying office job with benefits? Can the interviewers sense how much of a desperate loser I am? I don't know your exact situation, but I'd advise you not to take that stuff personally. Don't internalize the external, especially the whims of a stranger. As somebody else mentioned, interviews are dumb gently caress byzantine garbage, and as long as you know you could have done the job, your success or failure likely has little to do with you. It's natural to feel upset by rejection and look for ways you might have done things differently, and sometimes there might be good lessons in that, but by and large the world's cruelty towards you isn't your fault. You deserve those bennies regardless of job status. We all do.
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Feb 27, 2020 08:47
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Equeen posted:Another rejection after I what thought was one of my best interviews. I thought I made an honest connection with the interviewer while giving good answers. God, I'm a failure. What's wrong me, is it my speech, how I look, am I too low energy? Am I just that undeserving of having a decent paying office job with benefits? Can the interviewers sense how much of a desperate loser I am? Keep trying friend. In two weeks I will be unemployed trying to do the same thing you are. It is demoralizing and sadistic that we have to go through this process. Just keep trying and know that all your friends here want this trash system to burn down.
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Feb 27, 2020 09:08
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succ posted:Keep trying friend. In two weeks I will be unemployed trying to do the same thing you are. It is demoralizing and sadistic that we have to go through this process. Just keep trying and know that all your friends here want this trash system to burn down. I interviewed for a job today in a call center for insurance questions. Assuming I even get it, I realized right after I left that I'll have to find something else in a year or so when Bernie starts up the mega-guillotine and was like, "Ok, that's acceptable."
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Feb 27, 2020 09:11
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Chuka Umana posted:Perhaps we should have an effort post on the coronavirus and what we actually have to be worried about? The actual truth of it is that this specific strain of coronavirus is a particularly transmissible one that goes undetected for an extended period of time before it presents symptoms, if it does at all. The symptoms are essentially the same as your average influenza strain, but around 1 in 6 people develop more serious symptoms and require actual medical treatment, and this is more likely to happen to older people or those already in poor health. It's spread like most flu viruses, through getting some tiny bits of someone else's cough or sneeze on your hands and then touching your eyes or mouth or food or whatever. Roughly 2% of people diagnosed with it have died, but there are way more people with the virus than have reported to hospitals (obviously), so if you get it your chances are probably better than 2%, especially if you're young and healthy. I think it's worth mentioning that Chinese people do not somehow generate the disease in their body like a lot of people act like, you don't really have to be afraid of them unless they've recently returned from Wuhan or have been hanging out with someone who has lately. Other than that your chances of being directly affected by it are currently pretty low (assuming the average C-SPAM reader is in North America), but outbreaks are still going to keep happening and the virus is probably still going to spread just because of how long a person can be infectious before they develop symptoms, and how expensive it is to go to the hospital meaning that a lot of people won't bother unless they develop serious symptoms. You don't have to monitor coronavirus news constantly, just keep an eye out for if it starts being reported in the area you live in. Just do what you would normally do during flu season, there's literally nothing else you need to worry about. If someone develops a vaccine you'll hear about it. Classon Ave. Robot has issued a correction as of 10:12 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Feb 27, 2020 10:10
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I don't think people on this forum at least are xenophobic. Modern Chinese immigrants are often multi-millionaire jetsetters so Chinese neighbourhoods are likely where it's going to appear, nothing about genetics.
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Feb 27, 2020 11:09
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:I don't think people on this forum at least are xenophobic. You would be mistaken.  Although I will agree the instances of it are far lower that the rest of the internet, though that's unintentionally damning with faint praise.
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Feb 27, 2020 18:58
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I'm starting to get really bummed out that the "worst case scenario" for 2020 is going to come to fruition, Bernie isn't going to sweep the nomination, it's going to come down to a contested convention, and Trump is going to win by having near unity in his party while Democrats are divided. Meanwhile we're beginning to have a crash as bad as 2008 and a pandemic that could kill off 250 million people. I don't know what exactly would be the purpose of living if everything goes as bad as it's looking right now.
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Feb 27, 2020 19:33
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thehandtruck posted:I'm very sorry about the rejection and would like to offer a short anecdote to hopefully lessen that sinking feeling even a tiny bit: Current recruiter here and this is absolutely true and part of the reason I'm looking to leave the field. This post also helped me a little bit because I've had no luck since I started interviewing again. So thank you!
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Feb 27, 2020 20:13
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Chuka Umana posted:I'm starting to get really bummed out that the "worst case scenario" for 2020 is going to come to fruition, Bernie isn't going to sweep the nomination, it's going to come down to a contested convention, and Trump is going to win by having near unity in his party while Democrats are divided. Meanwhile we're beginning to have a crash as bad as 2008 and a pandemic that could kill off 250 million people. They're bending the knee as we speak, dude. Both Tom Perez and Barack Obama said that whoever wins the plurality should get the nomination. The crash happening now is the best case scenario because the whole system is set up to create them cyclically. It's inevitably going to happen either way, and if it happens now then it won't be blamed on Bernie Sanders when he takes office. The purpose of living is the same no matter what happens or who's in power, it's to enjoy however much time you've got, whether it's a little bit or a lot.
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Feb 27, 2020 20:49
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Chuka Umana posted:I'm starting to get really bummed out that the "worst case scenario" for 2020 is going to come to fruition, Bernie isn't going to sweep the nomination, it's going to come down to a contested convention, and Trump is going to win by having near unity in his party while Democrats are divided. Meanwhile we're beginning to have a crash as bad as 2008 and a pandemic that could kill off 250 million people. I cant speak for the pandemic or the crash beyond just that those are out of our control, we are all swimming in the riptide of history, find meaning in your daily activities, etc etc. Not the most inspiring stuff. Sorry. As for feeling nervous about 2020. I know it's something of a meme on cspam, but seriously, if you're not volunteering for the Sanders campaign already, do it. Heres some benefits that I have found through personal experience:
Bernies victories and the knees bending have already been mentioned, and I'm sure you're just as aware of them as anyone else in this forum. It's one thing to receive information, it's another thing to act on it. If you feel down about how this is turning out, I highly recommend volunteering. I was glum about all this once too. Not anymore. Worst case scenario, you dont like it and you can drop it--and nobody will look down on you for it.
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Feb 27, 2020 22:02
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cool dance moves posted:I cant speak for the pandemic or the crash beyond just that those are out of our control, we are all swimming in the riptide of history, find meaning in your daily activities, etc etc. Not the most inspiring stuff. Sorry. What about those of us who don't live in the U.S.? I am horribly worried that the EU is going to collapse, I will be kicked out of the Netherlands and be stuck in Portugal waiting until climate change comes and be forced to work in a farm digging in the dirt. I can't relate to most people, and my loner tendencies, zero experience in the romance department and empathy towards people are sure to make me a target. I can't think of a single thing I would like to dedicate myself towards. I just want all this to be over. I lost the game. Why do I have to keep playing? I did finally manage to get a new therapist though. Hope this one works. AceOfFlames has issued a correction as of 23:57 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Feb 27, 2020 23:48
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I haven't been evaluated by a p-doc since I was a kid and I'm wondering how it works these days. This is probably way too broad of a question. My appointment is next week
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Feb 28, 2020 00:54
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:I haven't been evaluated by a p-doc since I was a kid and I'm wondering how it works these days. This is probably way too broad of a question. My appointment is next week It's pretty much like every doctors appointment: be ready to describe your symptoms honestly. Zero need to be embarrassed, it's like going in because your arm hurts. Gotta get your brain patched up!  If you're not sure if the extent of your symptoms or your insurance are being goddamn idiots you may need to keep a mood calendar. Pretty much everyone swears by Daylio and it's probably a good idea to keep one anyway if you're depressed or have bipolar. Meds will take a while if you haven't had them tweaked in a long time. Like, a WHILE, and going through a bunch along the way. Be open to trying new things and take little victories, even if the side effects mean you're going to switch soon. Sometimes all you need is a breather, and knowing something almost worked gets you closer to what will. That being said, they should be able to give you rationale for what they're giving you, why they're giving it to you, and any side effects. You are your own best advocate. And if all else fails and you just do not get on at all, remember they're a service provider. Keep an open mind and give them a chance, but you're not married to them, and you gotta find a good pdoc if you can. It's essential.
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Feb 28, 2020 01:13
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One of the cruelest aspect of the neoliberal society we've lived in the past 40 years is the denial of participation of the common man in politics under the guise of "meritocracy."
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Feb 28, 2020 01:23
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Chuka Umana posted:One of the cruelest aspect of the neoliberal society we've lived in the past 40 years is the denial of participation of the common man in politics under the guise of "meritocracy." The hilarious thing is that lg was right about meritocracy being a literal mental illness, it's either sociopathic ladder climbing or self harm manifesting as an obsessive need to better oneself without end
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Feb 28, 2020 02:26
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Chokes McGee posted:The hilarious thing is that lg was right about meritocracy being a literal mental illness, it's either sociopathic ladder climbing or self harm manifesting as an obsessive need to better oneself without end Can you elaborate on this? thehandtruck posted:The interviewing world is all a complete farce and that job drove me to getting out of the corporate world and into mental health. If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing in the mental health field and how hard was it for you to make that transition? I'm degreeless so I'm facing an uphill slog no matter which direction I choose, and right now I'm looking at computer networking just for job security (no matter how much automation happens, there's always gonna be servers that need plugging in). But I've always felt drawn to mental health as a field more than anything else... I just didn't feel qualified to work in it, as someone who needs help with my own.
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Feb 28, 2020 06:38
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Unsinkabear posted:If you don't mind me asking, what are you doing in the mental health field and how hard was it for you to make that transition? Dont wanna doxx myself but its not a hard transition. Regarding you not feeling qualified: 1) All therapists are weirdos and crackpots with issues just like everyone else. One of my professors used to ask, "What was your family system like that made you need to become a therapist?" Therapists are the one's who got squeezed out of society, and their fuckedupness is what helps them know how to help other people's fuckedupness. What's that Jung quote? "Bring me a sane man and I'll cure him." 2) Anyone can be a therapist. I know people love to gatekeep their jobs but the truth is 99% of people can do 99% of jobs, therapists are no different. Sure you learn some theories and treatments in school and while getting your hours but imo the hardest work is on yourself, to prevent unwanted countertransference and give good treatment in the room. All the non hosed up people just became normies, how boring is that? Go get yourself a brain degree. thehandtruck has issued a correction as of 10:50 on Feb 28, 2020 |
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Feb 28, 2020 10:09
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Unsinkabear posted:Can you elaborate on this? This is just one opinion and your city could be different but I work in computer networking and job security isn't a thing. You'll get tons of offers from scammy contractors and offers from a few good ones. The two biggest employers in my area (just one after May because they're closing shop here) are notorious for how often they do mass layoffs.
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Feb 28, 2020 14:11
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Chokes McGee posted:It's pretty much like every doctors appointment: be ready to describe your symptoms honestly. Zero need to be embarrassed, it's like going in because your arm hurts. Gotta get your brain patched up! Thanks, Chokes. I was kind of nervous about it but this makes me feel better. Gonna view it like a normal doctor appointment 
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Feb 28, 2020 20:14
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I'm legitimately on the verge of cracking at my current job. I don't want to go through all of it because it's such a long laundry list: sexual harassment, bullying, a work environment that has caused TWO hospital stays, lovely co-workers, and yet all of this and I'm still the best recruiter we have, but I've finally reached my limit. They've shoveled work onto us when we're hobbled and down two people, which means I'm having to do 2 or 3 jobs. I even told my director what was going on and she kinda shrugged. I'm looking for what to do about it, but I'm having no luck. But I legitimately have to talk myself into staying every day, which I'm luckily able to do because other than my job, I'm way less of a mess. I'm begging for work help and getting nothing. But like, the best lead I've had in forever is a warehouse, and I've never worked that physically demanding of a job. And I'm afraid I'll get fired from this job I don't have AND the job I do. And the worst part is I can't do anything more than, I dunno, throw applications at a wall. I know nobody in my field. I'm trying to stay afloat long enough so I can go back to school and become a teacher. And I honestly have doubts I can even do that.
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Feb 28, 2020 22:00
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Ruth Bader Meinhof posted:I'm legitimately on the verge of cracking at my current job. have you considered suing those fuckin bastards
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Feb 28, 2020 22:26
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Zeriel posted:This is just one opinion and your city could be different but I work in computer networking and job security isn't a thing. You'll get tons of offers from scammy contractors and offers from a few good ones. The two biggest employers in my area (just one after May because they're closing shop here) are notorious for how often they do mass layoffs. Afaik that's pretty much every industry these days, no? I meant "job security" in the sense that the career as a whole will probably survive the coming AI/automation revolution... not necessarily that each individual position will be secure. I'm willing to settle for a job that I just know will continue to EXIST, because my current job almost certainly won't. I do a hybrid role of social media management, which on its own doesn't pay super well, and digital marketing, which is guaranteed to go through seismic changes in the near future. I'm just trying to play the odds and find something that's big-picture safe and I don't loathe. I don't have any savings to fall back on and I'm just now starting to get my life together. So whatever I invest my little remaining learning in needs to stay viable, or springboard to something else that will. If it doesn't, I'm gonna have a real hard time. I feel like Indiana Jones trying to choose the right cup. 
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Feb 29, 2020 06:27
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Unsinkabear posted:Can you elaborate on this? I can, so long as you understand that I am a dumb person on the internet and my opinions are probably also dumb We had a regular poster in CSPAM before the New Year's Eve Massacre named Lastgirl who was basically the heart and soul of the subforum for years. One of her favorite sayings is that "meritocracy is a mental illness," and quite frankly, I've found the "Push a little farther strive a little harder reach for the stars" bullshit to be at leat 75% of the causes of misery in my life, so I'm inclined to agree. PsychedelicWarlord posted:Thanks, Chokes. I was kind of nervous about it but this makes me feel better. Gonna view it like a normal doctor appointment Hell yeah. Go get em
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Feb 29, 2020 09:38
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Parents calling, potentially using a routine operation to guilt me into thinking my mom is on her deathbed and getting me to apologize for being an abuse victim Having a real normal one today
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Mar 1, 2020 19:55
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Chokes McGee posted:Parents calling, potentially using a routine operation to guilt me into thinking my mom is on her deathbed and getting me to apologize for being an abuse victim It's not your fault. 
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Mar 1, 2020 20:20
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Chokes McGee posted:Parents calling, potentially using a routine operation to guilt me into thinking my mom is on her deathbed and getting me to apologize for being an abuse victim You are a loved and respected member of this community, buddy! You are cool and good
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Mar 1, 2020 20:24
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Chokes McGee posted:Parents calling, potentially using a routine operation to guilt me into thinking my mom is on her deathbed and getting me to apologize for being an abuse victim Sunday Funday!
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Mar 1, 2020 20:51
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thehandtruck posted:Sunday Funday! Super Tuesday more like Super BLUESday! 
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Mar 1, 2020 21:05
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Seriously though thank you all for your kind words. My wife's family loves me and her mom is Facebook friends with mine from the time of our wedding, so we have spies in place, and it appears the operation already happened and went fine like two days ago.  They may have hosed up their last chance to see me with this stunt Probably not though because I'm a
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Mar 1, 2020 21:07
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This is the first weekend I've actually been sober since November, and before that, July. I managed 2 weeks in July and a whopping 3 in November, lol. I had to stop because I flew too close to the sun last weekend, I got a neuropathy in my left hand after honestly doing too much speed and the whole pad of my left thumb and index finger are kinda hosed, and I lost a lot of my grip strength doing it too, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. I just guess I have to hope it eases off, even though I'm fat I'm pretty sure it's not diabetic (like I'd loving know) and that means I done hosed some nerves up, and my entire life is probably worth less than a trip to a neurologist All that ever makes me stop is a hard crash like this. It won't stick. I'll just gently caress up again and then my goddamn hand will be gone. Just in a loving way I can hide like I've always hidden every drug problem, every mental illness, just deeply loving competent at lying and all it gets me is hosed. This seems so pointless and stupid. I'm going to gently caress it up again. All that I'm going to get by trying to fix anything by myself are bleak empty swathes of time with nothing in them which is what I was trying to avoid in the first place. All trying to get better to do will make sure I'm miserable 100% of the time. I have no support at all. Nobody's loving impressed or cares about putting in effort to achieve something like not doing loving speed which most people do without trying. Then when you gently caress it up or act miserable succeeding, why the gently caress would anybody have anything good to say? I'm a fuckup and I can't even fix things without loving it up. I'm the most miserable sack of poo poo around sober. I just sleep and cry. Is that what I'm trying to get better for? The recovery rate for this poo poo is like 30% after 2 years of therapy, lol. Even if I succeeded, it'd be at such a crippling expense, and I probably wouldn't. Hell, I should know better than that. Everything I've ever succeeded at has ended far worse than my failures. I'd succeed at quitting drugs and just be the worst person in the world to ever be around, somehow even more of a goddamn wet blanket than I am now. At least now I don't inflict myself on anybody but my bf who deserves better and random hookups who don't have to put up with me talking too much. idk, I'm not going to hurt myself or anything, this just feels so bleak and pointless. I get to sit here thinking about this bad cold numbness in my hand all the time and have a physical reminder that I have nothing but hosed up uselessness in my head and that I'm only ever any good as a work drone. I just want to get help and not have it be people saying 'group therapy is fine' because I know I can't do that, even when I can talk to strangers I absolutely can't talk about myself. The only way I'm even able to do it anonymously online is through a stupid cat avatar and knowing that I am longwinded enough to write a sufficiently staggering wall of text to ensure that most people skim through it. The only productive thing I did this weekend was donate to Bernie and a local candidate who looks like she means well. I just want to go to the doctor again and not rely on screaming into the void. I feel so alone even with the one person in my life, he deserves so much better, but he doesn't have it.
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Mar 2, 2020 01:30
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Zvahl posted:This is the first weekend I've actually been sober since November, and before that, July. I managed 2 weeks in July and a whopping 3 in November, lol. Hey, I read through all of this and didn't skim it. You matter, and you have value beyond just being a work drone. Your boyfriend likes you as a person. He deserves you, and he deserves you happy and healthy. It is a very very hard road, and you're right to acknowledge the challenges you're facing. But they're not insurmountable, and you can work on them. Just stopping doing drugs is a step in and of itself, and talking to a therapist, as crazy as that seems, is a big one too. You can't climb the whole wall at once; just go one foot up after another. Call that therapist, get the help: you deserve it, and you're worth it. -a person hiding behind a random red text avatar on the internet.
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Mar 2, 2020 01:55
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Chokes McGee posted:Probably not though because I'm a That's a messed up situation. How insane would it be to just be up front about it? Like "I know the operation happened and you're fine. Why did you lie about this?" I'm a sucker for truth and reconciliation myself, so I know that's not always an option.
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Mar 2, 2020 02:27
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Zvahl posted:This is the first weekend I've actually been sober since November, and before that, July. I managed 2 weeks in July and a whopping 3 in November, lol. Hi, Zvahl. Firstly I want to commend you for opening up ITT because that's what we're here for. While I'm not legally allowed to call us a group because I'm just a dumdum on the internet with no degree, if you're absolutely opposed to RL, I'd much rather you come in here and share if you feel safer doing so. Secondly unless I'm in a really bad headspace myself I go out of my way to read every post that comes across the wire in here. So, you're not ranting into a void, if that helps. Thirdly I wish there was something I could do other than recommend a voluntary in-patient hospital stay because of our hosed up medical system that punishes people for daring to get sick, but if you even have the remotest possibility of feasibility, I would strongly encourage it right now—both for physical and mental rehab. A lot of what you said resonated with what was in my head during my breakdown, and that is (as you don't need me to tell you) not a very good place to be. I would rather risk offending someone with the possibility of helping than watch someone walk the same path I did and actually succeed.
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Mar 2, 2020 05:43
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bobtheconqueror posted:That's a messed up situation. How insane would it be to just be up front about it? Like "I know the operation happened and you're fine. Why did you lie about this?" I'm a sucker for truth and reconciliation myself, so I know that's not always an option. Not a chance, I'm dealing with a full-on gaslighting sociopath here. The only thing my mom cares about is getting me to blame myself for the consequences of her lovely actions. The only thing the rest of my family cares about is getting me to stop rocking the boat so their lives are less miserable. My family is, how do you say in the Americas, not so good.
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Mar 2, 2020 05:45
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Chokes McGee posted:My family is, how do you say in the Americas, not so good. That sucks man. Emotional tyrants are like my least favorite people. Can't fix anything if you can't talk through it, no matter how uncomfortable it is. However you decide to deal with it, good luck!
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Mar 2, 2020 09:43
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Zvahl posted:I'm the most miserable sack of poo poo around sober. I just sleep and cry. Is that what I'm trying to get better for? The shittiest thing about addiction is that it rewrites your brain so heavily that you forget how to exist outside of it. I struggle with this too, every time I quit my life just feels so boring and empty and devoid of joy. But this IS temporary. Just like after a breakup you need to cry your heart out before you can start putting yourself together, you have to go through that lovely dull emptiness in order to start noticing the little things that make you feel like a person again, and even in some cases give you a little tiny spark joy which you can gradually grow. It's agonizingly slow, and you will stumble and gently caress it up. But when you get back up and back on the wagon, you'll start further along than you did the last time. And every time, that spark of joy that you're able to get from other little things will get a little bigger. I know this process probably doesn't sound super appealing right now, but I want you to know that that lovely wet blanket feeling DOES lead somewhere else. And I can tell you that as much of a struggle as it has been, even with the seemingly small amount of progress I have made so far (and don't trust your own evaluation, I share your feelings but my therapist says what I'm doing is huge), it has also been the most rewarding journey of my entire life. P.S. Arivia is right: your boyfriend likes you as a person and wants to be there for you. As someone whose wife is not understanding or supportive in this regard, trust me... you would know. And if he still likes you and wants to be there, that means you likely deserve him a lot more than you think you do.
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Mar 2, 2020 15:32
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Chokes McGee posted:Secondly unless I'm in a really bad headspace myself I go out of my way to read every post that comes across the wire in here. So, you're not ranting into a void, if that helps. I just want to echo this. I don't post in here too often, but I do read every post. It helps that this thread moves slowly. I always feel bad when I see a heartfelt post from someone struggling that gets little or no response. In my case, it's usually because I either genuinely don't know what to say or I think that anything I say wouldn't be helpful (or worse, harmful), and replying "same, hope you feel better soon" reads as insincere to me. Message boards are a bad format for this kind of thing.
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I think today is the day I'm done with the corporate world. I made it 13 years. I can't do this anymore. I cried in my car during lunch.
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