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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Blistex posted:

they just started the transfer process without following their own security procedures, so there isn't really a way to prove fraud.

I'd check to see if it's just "their own security procedures" or some state/federal regulation that they've broken and report them if so. Just for kicks.

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GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Blistex posted:

My friend got a call from a mainland China number last evening. He outright blocked it without answering it.

I forgot about your friend's drama at first and thought you were talking about someone so terrified of coronavirus that they won't even talk to a Chinese person on the phone

bones 4 beginners
Jan 7, 2018

"...a masterpiece that no one can read too often, or admire too much."
The shopping center at the nearest metro station has a little information desk where they recently set up a hand sanitizer dispenser. Today when I walked by it there was a very exasperated employee arguing with an old guy while he filled up a small bottle with sanitizer from the dispenser.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Jerry Cotton posted:

I'd check to see if it's just "their own security procedures" or some state/federal regulation that they've broken and report them if so. Just for kicks.

He has a lawyer and a financial adviser going through the various processes etc. that he needs to in order to get the divorce underway and him and his assets protected. I'm sure one of the two will investigate that further. Overall he's pretty sure that everything is good. If a fraud charge is not pending, and she were to come back and lawyer up, she might be entitled to half of the car, and half of any value the house has accrued since they bought it. With the exception of those two things, she apparently has nearly exactly half of their funds, so the only real thing to do during a divorce is sign the papers. She could fight it, but his lawyer (specialises in estate and divorce) is certain it would be a waste of time on her part, and any lawyer who would take her case would insist that she bring enough cash back to Canada so that he can get paid and she can pay both parties court fees when she inevitably fails in her case.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
I mean... if she clearly didn't love him enough to go against her parents, and ended up with about half of their joint assets (if only thanks to some fast action from your friend), I guess the overall outcome could be viewed as just skipping the slow parts of a divorce.

Y'know, like the 5-10 years of clinging on in quiet desperation/apathy followed by an extended courtroom battle.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Yeah, seems like a mighty efficient way to fast forward through the lovely tail end of a failed marriage. Your friend might actually have lucked out there, in a weird and horrible way.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM
So I'm set to return to Osaka on Tuesday but I just found out Universal has been closed til the 15th :ohdear:

I'm waiting til morning over there so I can talk to my boss and ask if I should just stay here in the states for a while longer

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Japan and Korea not looking like great destinations right now.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Atopian posted:

Japan and Korea not looking like great destinations right now.

No kidding. I work in foreign exchange for American high schoolers and I'm honestly getting a bit concerned about how this year is going to go.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
just have a COVID-19 party to infect everyone a month before you go so there will be no problems

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

Atopian posted:

Japan and Korea not looking like great destinations right now.

Trying to get out is not going so well either.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
I like to think of myself as a pioneer of the "locked door, water filter, sacks of rice and beans and noodles" response.

The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

bones 4 beginners posted:

The shopping center at the nearest metro station has a little information desk where they recently set up a hand sanitizer dispenser. Today when I walked by it there was a very exasperated employee arguing with an old guy while he filled up a small bottle with sanitizer from the dispenser.

It's free alcohol, why wouldn't you stock up if you could?

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

The Zombie Guy posted:

It's free alcohol, why wouldn't you stock up if you could?

They really hate it when you drink straight from the spout.

Thrasher
Apr 21, 2002

MarcusSA posted:

Can you do us a favor and keep us updated if they actually do end up shipping?

I’m honestly curious if they are gonna reopen.

I really get the impression that the CCP is going to force a lot of these places to open back up because of the hit it’s already taken.

I just spoke to FedEx trade networks and their container ship is set to sail March 17.. it’s loaded with cargo so, things are open and moving a bit? This is from the Shanghai port.

My product needs to be ready by March 8th to make it on this ship .. :ohdear:

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Super Waffle posted:

So I'm set to return to Osaka on Tuesday but I just found out Universal has been closed til the 15th :ohdear:

I'm waiting til morning over there so I can talk to my boss and ask if I should just stay here in the states for a while longer

Do you work at USJ??? Plz post in the waifu thread and/or goon chat (more)

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Regarding the guy whose Chinese wife ran away with the money:

To what benefit to her is staying married at this point? She ran back home, took all the cash she could, clearly has no intention of coming back/reconciling. Now he has taken the steps to protect what is left, surely she would agree to a quick divorce so she could marry someone else in China? Why would she want to fight it?

Oh, and re: Coronavirus in Korea. I live in a rural part of Gangwon-do. There have so far only been 6 cases in my state, and none in my region. But the hagwon I work for still closed for all of last week, and most people are wearing masks. The big cities seem to have been hit pretty hard with infections, but very few people here are dying. As far as I know they have put back the start of public school by a week as well. Apart from that, my life goes on as normal. I am nowhere near the hoarding bottled water stage yet.

Unrelated: I just tried to buy my brother a Wonju Basketball jersey for his birthday, and the Korean sites were making it so much more difficult and complicated than it had to be that I gave up. I might try to go to a game next month and buy one there.

BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Feb 29, 2020

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

BrigadierSensible posted:

Regarding the guy whose Chinese wife ran away with the money:

To what benefit to her is staying married at this point? She ran back home, took all the cash she could, clearly has no intention of coming back/reconciling. Now he has taken the steps to protect what is left, surely she would agree to a quick divorce so she could marry someone else in China? Why would she want to fight it?

Fight for the remainder of the cash she might think she is entitled to or a lawyer convinces her she has a shot at getting. Not staying married.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Blistex posted:

Fight for the remainder of the cash she might think she is entitled to or a lawyer convinces her she has a shot at getting. Not staying married.

Fair enough. I misread. Sorry.

Also do we know if running away was her idea, a long con she was pulling, or she was bullied into doing it by her greedy parents once they found out he got some money?

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
That would require more info than we or the poor sod have at this point.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


BrigadierSensible posted:

Unrelated: I just tried to buy my brother a Wonju Basketball jersey for his birthday, and the Korean sites were making it so much more difficult and complicated than it had to be that I gave up. I might try to go to a game next month and buy one there.

In Japan, soccer and basketball seasons have been delayed. Baseball will start as scheduled but all games until March 15 are "no audience" matches.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Chinese economy has completely crashed because of this


https://twitter.com/TomOrlik/status/1233559208278319105?s=19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-idUSKBN20N03R

quote:

China's factory activity posts record contraction as coronavirus bites
4 MIN READ

BEIJING (Reuters) - Factory activity in China contracted at the fastest pace on record in February, highlighting the damage from the coronavirus outbreak on the world’s second-largest economy.

China’s official Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) fell to a record low of 35.7 in February from 50.0 in January, the National Bureau of Statistics said on Saturday, well below the 50-point mark that separates monthly growth from contraction.

Analysts polled by Reuters expected the February PMI to come in at 46.0.

The sombre readings provide the first official snapshot of the state of the Chinese economy since the outbreak of the coronavirus epidemic which has killed almost 3,000 people in mainland China and infected about 80,000.

The results suggest deepening cracks in an economy already hit by the trade war as the coronavirus forces widespread transport curbs and tough public health measures which have paralyzed economic activity.

China’s economy is widely expected to suffer another sharp blow in the first quarter of this year, pressuring policymakers to unveil more stimulus measures.

Nomura expects first-quarter growth to be at 2.0% year-on-year while Capital Economics estimates China’s economy would contract outright in year-on-year terms this quarter, for the first time since at least the 1990s.

A sub-index of manufacturing production nosedived to 27.8 in February from January’s 51.3 while a reading of new orders plunged to 29.3, down from 51.4 a month earlier.

Factories continued to lose jobs at the fastest pace in years as labor conditions remained tight amid the travel restrictions.

China’s leaders have urged local governments, factories and workers to re-start operations as soon as possible in less affected regions. But the response has been slow and many migrant workers - including those in worst-hit Hubei province - have yet to return to work due to stringent quarantine rules and ongoing travel bans.

Official data showed that only about 30% of China’s small- and medium-sized companies had resumed production as of Wednesday. Some firms that have restarted work are reportedly running below normal capacity.

Small- and mid-size firms account for more than 80% of nationwide employment and over 60% of gross domestic product.


As the coronavirus spreads to more countries, some analysts have warned that the impact on global supply chains could risk dampening the subsequent recovery for Chinese manufacturers.

“Even if labor shortages in China start to ease, some factories may run into problems resuming normal production if outbreaks in other countries mean they have trouble sourcing intermediate goods,” Julian Evans-Pritchard, senior China economist at Capital Economics, said in a note on Friday.

Economists at Morgan Stanley have warned of a pronounced impact on first-quarter global growth, with rising risks of it extending into the second quarter this year.

China’s services sector activity also posted the deepest contraction on record, with official non-manufacturing PMI dropping to 29.6, from 54.1 in January, a separate NBS survey showed.

China’s economy has transitioned more towards services since the SARS coronavirus epidemic in 2002-2003, and the sector now accounts for about 60% of the country’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

Transportation, tourism, catering and entertainment sectors have been hard hit during the coronavirus outbreak as people avoid crowded areas.

A sub-index of construction activity, a key driver of growth, stood at 26.6, down from 59.7 in January.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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when china rules the world

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.
Surely this will not stop 6% growth?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

The North Tower posted:

Surely this will not stop 6% growth?

Once again

quote:

Nomura expects first-quarter growth to be at 2.0% year-on-year while Capital Economics estimates China’s economy would contract outright in year-on-year terms this quarter, for the first time since at least the 1990s.

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

:holymoley:

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
:texas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4fL0WXNfo

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

The North Tower posted:

Surely this will not stop 6% growth?

I predict they'll adjust the number down to 6.2 instead of the usual 6.4-6.6

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
The 6% number was always for internal consumption.

If they're smart, they'll talk up how badly hit other countries are, contrast their own, uh, wise and enlightened response was, then use the cover of this virus as an exterior problem that they nevertheless handled 'as well as could be expected' to bring their stated economy figures back into line with reality.

Thus allowing for another X years of '6% growth' afterwards.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
No no, as the tankies in CSPAM explained, workers will just work (even more) overtime to catch up to those numbers

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Darkest Auer posted:

No no, as the tankies in CSPAM explained, workers will just work (even more) overtime to catch up to those numbers

Communism: Ever with the working man in mind.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Numbers going up are a critical part of the socialist creed I hear

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
A Stakhanovite says what?

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Any chance China will learn a lesson about eating every loving endangered species? I'd like to see that rate an incredible social credit hit.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Supposedly there is now a ban on selling wild/hunted animals for consumption.

No idea how long it'll last or how hard it'll be enforced (this being China, the answer to both will be "varies by region"), but it's definitely there now.

And, interestingly, came about due to popular opinion. The Chinese internet has had some... scathing things to say about the whole practice, which were permitted to spread uncensored.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Atopian posted:

Supposedly there is now a ban on selling wild/hunted animals for consumption.

No idea how long it'll last or how hard it'll be enforced (this being China, the answer to both will be "varies by region"), but it's definitely there now.

And, interestingly, came about due to popular opinion. The Chinese internet has had some... scathing things to say about the whole practice, which were permitted to spread uncensored.

Good. I really hope it stays in place for good.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Beachcomber posted:

Any chance China will learn

Let me stop you there

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Atopian posted:

Supposedly there is now a ban on selling wild/hunted animals for consumption.

No idea how long it'll last or how hard it'll be enforced (this being China, the answer to both will be "varies by region"), but it's definitely there now.

And, interestingly, came about due to popular opinion. The Chinese internet has had some... scathing things to say about the whole practice, which were permitted to spread uncensored.

But not, apparently, for ""medicinal""" use as part of dark ages primitive "medicine"

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
On the plus side, as the TCM corps have made their packaging ever shinier and looking more like real medicine, they have been lowering use of non-distinctive ingredients.
As in, they have to keep the taste/colour mostly the same, but other poo poo costs money so maybe you only kinda wave the endangered species near the vat as you mix your herbal sugar water.

Kinda cool how cost- and corner-cutting can work for... well, not 'good', but less harm.

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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
The Chinese government just has a big wheel they spin, and whatever animal it lands on is a TCM product

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