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Very sad whas happening in iran. https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1233725698113777666?s=21
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Pretty sure that whole collapsing on the street thing is completely psychosomatic though. Because that's really not what pneumonia does. Still a lovely situation though. That country absolutely can't catch a break 
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Mar 1, 2020 13:12
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a hot gujju bhabhi posted:Americans sure do love this prepping BS huh it's always a laugh when someone outside the US has the pang of realization that yes, Americans are actually not Europeans with accents
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Mar 1, 2020 13:18
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Respiratory and heart failure are both known complications that can result from pneumonia. I would imagine that you would be laid up in the hospital long before reaching that point, though.
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Mar 1, 2020 13:20
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Jabor posted:Respiratory and heart failure are both known complications that can result from pneumonia. Again from my limited knowledge of how this works, isn't the fact that its a new type of virus that the body has trouble identifying have a part to play in people collapseing? Eg:people feel semi ok/ very fatigued up until it gets very serious as the effects of the immune response are not kicking in thus giving the infected a clear sign they are sick?
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Mar 1, 2020 13:25
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peak debt posted:Pretty sure that whole collapsing on the street thing is completely psychosomatic though. Yeah, passing out in the street is all in your head. You're fine, just get up and walk it off.
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Mar 1, 2020 13:25
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It’s that cykostine storm(?) thing everyone goes on about isn’t it?
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Mar 1, 2020 13:31
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it's probably just a sign that there are a ton of sick people wandering around without access to medical care and at some point they faint while in public but in any case - this is like if poo poo is hitting the fan in slow-mo, this is the moment where the poo poo has firmly collided with the fan and is about to be sprayed outwards. poo poo's gonna get messy next week
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Mar 1, 2020 13:32
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People collapse on the street every day from all sorts of reasons, if it happens in the plague lands people get way more worried. The people don’t even have the disease
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Mar 1, 2020 13:46
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Most of the collapsed and the onlookers don't have mask either.
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Mar 1, 2020 13:48
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Tei posted:Very sad whas happening in iran. Folks in the other thread were saying this guy isnt a good source, since he's basically just an anti-iranian troll acount.
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Mar 1, 2020 13:58
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Charliegrs posted:I can assure you it's not because of the Corona virus. I suggest checking the middle east thread if you want to know why Turkey doesn't want millions more refugees flooding into their country on top of the 3-4 million they already have. so you're saying that millions of refugees flooding into europe this week is not relevant to the coronavirus situation?
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Mar 1, 2020 14:15
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poverty goat posted:so you're saying that millions of refugees flooding into europe this week is not relevant to the coronavirus situation? It's relevant because of coronavirus, but coronavirus is not causal.
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Mar 1, 2020 14:18
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Bape Culture posted:It’s that cykostine storm(?) thing everyone goes on about isn’t it? You don't just collapse in the street with it suddenly though.
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Mar 1, 2020 14:44
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:People collapse on the street every day from all sorts of reasons, if it happens in the plague lands people get way more worried. The people don’t even have the disease  please diagnose me, oh great psychic doctor\Sneak Lemming posted:Folks in the other thread were saying this guy isnt a good source, since he's basically just an anti-iranian troll acount. instead of asking random people if some random person is trustworthy i looked through his previous tweets; he is obviously an iranian living abroad in contact with his family and some others still in the country. most of what he posted was previously reported by other sources and nothing seems too outlandish. i would take it as another data point in addition to what we already know for certain, such as multiple members of parliament getting sick. exaggerated, almost certainly, but probably not an outright lie or fabrication Mozi fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Mar 1, 2020 14:46
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:There’s no way to prevent being infected. Odds are you’re infected already. You probably won’t die. I hate this sort of attitude. I vaguely remember reading about campaigns in the UK promoting about basic hygiene to prevent flu, and it really brought the numbers of infections down. Only a small % of people get the flu yearly and it would be a lot lower if people weren't total dicks about it 'being inevitable'. A lot of health specialist are saying it's really important to spread out and delay the infections as long as possible, because if you're not an idiot it makes sense to not overload the system, which traditionally is already stressed out this time of the year due to flu etc...
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Mar 1, 2020 15:01
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:The New York Times had an article where a public health dude said that even a moderately severe flu season means that the icu's get all filled up so thats what the world-class private healthcare that would be destroyed by socialized medicine gets us I guess. It's any flu season that pushes ICUs to capacity, not just a bad one. All hospitals run as close to full capacity as they can at all times, and the ICU especially so. On top of that we have fewer of both types of beds across the nation than we did a year ago. Philadelphia, for example, has had two major hospital closures this year losing somewhere around 1,000 hospital beds and around 100 ICU beds. The CDC has a study about planning for a pandemic influenza that is probably the best guide we have right now to how a serious pandemic would go down and it comes with this nice little terrifying table.  To give you an idea the American Hospital Association keeps statistics on the number of hospital beds available. There are fewer than 1 million regular hospital beds in the entire country. There are around 46,500 medical ICU beds in the US, this is the type of ICU that would be the first stop for influenza or a coronavirus infection. If you include burn/surgical/cardiac and other ICUs you have roughly the same number; so fewer than 100,000 ICU beds in the entire country. Then there are issues with the number of ventilators, BIPAP machines and other bits of life support equipment - there are even fewer of those than there are ICU beds, because not everybody in an ICU needs those things. ECMO gets a lot of press but in the overall picture it's vanishingly rare. Realistically it could get to the point like it was in the early days of dialysis - 25 patients needing ventilation, 12 ventilators available. Who gets them? 15 patients needing ecmo, but the nearest place that can do ECMO is a hundred miles away and would require a helicopter, and can take one or two of them if you're supremely lucky. Who gets to go on ECMO? Medical ethics people are going to have a field day.
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Mar 1, 2020 15:09
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Bape Culture posted:It’s that cykostine storm(?) thing everyone goes on about isn’t it? That happens usually when you're already laid up very ill.
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Mar 1, 2020 15:12
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Yes it does. Probably shows the true mortality rate is well below the headline figures as most people thought they had a normal winter illness and so haven't presented to hospital. That's good then, yea?
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Mar 1, 2020 15:17
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Bape Culture posted:It’s that cykostine storm(?) thing everyone goes on about isn’t it? I don't think I've heard anything about this virus causing cytokine storm. In fact I think that would cause the opposite kind of people to die, as cytokine storm makes the virus much more deadly for people with healthy immune systems.
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Mar 1, 2020 15:20
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https://twitter.com/jillreports/status/1233870486670495745?s=19
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Mar 1, 2020 15:26
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I'm over my cold and now I'm just surly and cranky and have lots of beans.
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Mar 1, 2020 15:28
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Sneak Lemming posted:Folks in the other thread were saying this guy isnt a good source, since he's basically just an anti-iranian troll acount. First and last picture is the same guy in different positions and looks like different places. So it is fraud. Also odd that you don't see people panicking around him.
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Mar 1, 2020 15:31
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i spent my whole food budget for the month on rice & would be willing to trade for beans
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Mar 1, 2020 15:31
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i got my yearly bucket o' rice, thinking about some soup recipes. maybe some chicken and rice?
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Mar 1, 2020 15:33
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i tried this last week https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/kadhi-turmeric-yogurt-soup easy and different but not a new favorite tbh
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Mar 1, 2020 15:38
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rent: 525€ electricity: 35€ gas: 50€ beans: 3500€ groceries: 150€ someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my family is dying of the corona virus
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Mar 1, 2020 15:45
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spend more on beans
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Mar 1, 2020 15:58
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if you budget properly for beans you shouldn't need any other groceries once you trade me for some rice, please
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Mar 1, 2020 16:01
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We need an epidemiologist to chart the flatulence risk vs. the amount of beans horded. There has to be peak bean at some point.
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Mar 1, 2020 16:10
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peak debt posted:Pretty sure that whole collapsing on the street thing is completely psychosomatic though. first thing that came to mind was, did the person who took the pics follow the whole process through to verify they had really what was a corona virus case. i'd guess that would take multiple days. takes real dedication to follow a patient or a possible corpse around just so you can tweet about it in case it just happens to be this new virus
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Mar 1, 2020 16:11
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Rhandhali posted:Philadelphia, for example, has had two major hospital closures this year losing somewhere around 1,000 hospital beds and around 100 ICU beds. I know that Hahnemann closed, but I missed that two hospitals closed. What was the other one? Some googling only brought up another that will close in a couple of months.
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Icept posted:We need an epidemiologist to chart the flatulence risk vs. the amount of beans horded. There has to be peak bean at some point. epidemiologists have been talking about 'social limiting' as an important part of controlling the spread of the infection so i think that there is not really a flatulence risk as much as a flatulence reward. which is to say, there is no peak bean
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Mar 1, 2020 16:33
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Mozi posted:epidemiologists have been talking about 'social limiting' as an important part of controlling the spread of the infection goons will inherit the earth. it's our time.
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Mar 1, 2020 16:41
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I wonder what Rense.com has to say about this. That used to be the only place I could regularly find the most recent David Dees "work". I imagine chemtrails factor in, as per the title of this thread
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Mar 1, 2020 16:44
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poverty goat posted:goons will inherit the earth. it's our time. let's not assume that we're gonna go outside once everyone is dead
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Mar 1, 2020 16:44
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mrfart posted:if you're not an idiot it makes sense to not overload the system, THE SYSTEM IS loving GONE, DUDE What kind of tory bullshit is this: "please take utmost care to manage your personal rate of infection so as not to overwhelm the resources we have intentionally diminished" Nobody is saying not to wash hands. But no matter how much you say, "please wash hands", some people won't. No matter how often you say "self quarantine in case of symptoms", some people are still going to show up to work. Not all of them can remote-in/work from home because their jobs are out there. At some point you're going to interact with someone who has the disease- ultimately there's nothing you can do to remain infection free.
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Mar 1, 2020 16:49
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Sure I saw it in here and can't find it again but can someone link me to the doctor on youtube who has been doing analysis on this since it started, gradually getting more and more downbeat about the situation?
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Mar 1, 2020 16:50
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Sure I saw it in here and can't find it again but can someone link me to the doctor on youtube who has been doing analysis on this since it started, gradually getting more and more downbeat about the situation? You mean this guy? 
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QuarkJets posted:Yes, but they're called corporate-speak things like "loss prevention". They won't ever actually do anything to stop you from stealing they're just there to call the cops (the ones who step over that boundary get fired, cause corporations don't like getting sued) Yeah not true, I did LP right after college and used to physically arrest people. You just have to be 150% sure and accurate, else you're fired right away.
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