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Davros gonna wheel in begging to be the one to break the vial. Edit: There's the explanation for the torture scene from last week. Ahahaha his plan is to change from cyborgs to full robots, even the Master is disappointed.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:17
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The Master has the exact same reaction to the cyber-plan as I do. "Huh. Robots. Thats boring."
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Mar 1, 2020 20:18
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Oh gently caress off.
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Oh gently caress off
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I'm withholding full scorn because the master lies, but they can gently caress off with that bullshit for a start.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:24
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Here we go
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SiKboy posted:I'm withholding full scorn because the master lies, but they can gently caress off with that bullshit for a start. Yeah, hopefully it's just bullshit, that's an utterly pointless and stupid retcon that adds nothing.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:24
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Ahahaha the Last Cyberman was a complete loser who just gets casually murdered 
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Mar 1, 2020 20:27
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I’ve lost track of what the Master is talking about here.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:28
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So I'm guessing the Master is the actual Timeless Child with a mad-on for Gallifrey... still a dumb retcon but better than trying to make it the Doctor.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:28
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It’s the stupidest retcon for no reason whatsoever. I’m genuinely annoyed at this.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:30
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The_Doctor posted:It’s the stupidest retcon for no reason whatsoever. I’m genuinely annoyed at this. It adds absolutely no value, it's utterly pointless.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:31
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They were doing the "First regeneration wasnt a native gallifrean" stuff and I was thinking "This is kind of pointless, but harmless", then... That and I literally said out loud "Oh get hosed!".
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Mar 1, 2020 20:31
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What did it say on the back of the clock? I missed it.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:34
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Holy poo poo, this has descended into godawful fanwank.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:35
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It really has. loving cyber-masters? And if the bodies could regenerate then how were they dead?
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Mar 1, 2020 20:36
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This is fanfic level bad.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:36
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SiKboy posted:What did it say on the back of the clock? I missed it. "For services to the Division."
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Mar 1, 2020 20:36
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Glad to see everyone is enjoying it
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Mar 1, 2020 20:37
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"You don't have to come!" She might have mentioned that BEFORE they stepped through the Boundary.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:38
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And so Doctor Who eats itself like a hungry snake
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Mar 1, 2020 20:39
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Even the episode itself is saying the retcon is pointless.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:40
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Ha, Brain of Morbius flashback.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:42
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The_Doctor posted:Ha, Brain of Morbius flashback. Motherfucker is just trolling us now
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Mar 1, 2020 20:43
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Wait, so does every 1st Doctor go back to Britain in 1963 to make their TARDIS a police box?
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Mar 1, 2020 20:43
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The_Doctor posted:Wait, so does every 1st Doctor go back to Britain in 1963 to make their TARDIS a police box? No because there was only one and it was William Hartnell and you can just ignore this dumb retcon as either a misdirection or an impossibly stupid fanfic on the level of Ulysses and "half-human on my mother's side".
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Mar 1, 2020 20:46
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Jerusalem posted:No because there was only one and it was William Hartnell and you can just ignore this dumb retcon as either a misdirection or an impossibly stupid fanfic on the level of Ulysses and "half-human on my mother's side".  Makes most sense to me. Wait, where did this TARDIS come from? Did they just stumble across it on the cybership?
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Mar 1, 2020 20:48
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The_Doctor posted:Wait, where did this TARDIS come from? Did they just stumble across it on the cybership? It wasn't clearly shown but I think they transmatted off the ship before it exploded? Gallifrey is still full of TARDISes I guess.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:50
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So the Doctor being just a Time Lord who ran away to see the universe wasn’t enough, and now they have to be a super sekrit long term deep cover agent for the CIA?
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Mar 1, 2020 20:53
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None of this makes any loving sense, why don't the CyberLords just shoot the dude? Edit: Oh they did and it didn't make any difference.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:56
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Well that was awful.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:00
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Looking forward to this to go into the file of retcons that will get ignored once the next showrunner takes over, alongside "The Doctor is Half Human!" and "The Other".
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Mar 1, 2020 21:00
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I guess next season will be chasing up the "secret history" of the Doctor and with any luck will wrap up with the reveal that it's all bullshit misdirection, but Jesus Christ what a sour note to end the season with. The best case scenario is this was a lovely arc that'll ultimately be nullified, the worst case scenario is that the showrunner is a glorified fanfic writer. The cast and especially Whittaker deserve so much better than this.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:00
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I was enjoying that well enough up until the big reveal, after that it went downhill in a big way. The reveal sucked, the cyber masters were stupid in a bad way, the cybermen on the ship couldnt hit 2 people running in a straight line away from them from a distance of about 8 feet, it was super unclear how the heroes got from the ship to the TARDIS (I'm totally willing to accept they used the teleporter thing, but it was literally "running down corridor CUT TO ship exploding CUT TO them safe on tardis. Even a line about "we barely made it to the teleporter in time!" would have helped) and similarly no-one shooting grandpa joe when he offered to lay down his own life to save the doctor looked dumb. A line from the master "Dont shoot, you might hit the death particle!" would have done.
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My pick is that Jo Martin's Doctor is from between 2-3, that this "Division" sent her on missions (AFTER remaining 2 for awhile and doing The Two Doctors  ) but she didn't like that they were military oriented and used the chameleon arch to turn human and hide from them, and that eventually after meeting 13 she gets caught up with them again and they wipe her memory, regenerate her into 3 and dump her on earth for Spearhead from Space. The Timeless Child or whatever story is true but it's the Master and he's furious that he was used as an experiment and is trying to get revenge on all the Time Lords.I mean, that's a pointless retcon but it's better than "the Doctor is the super-special secret source of all Time Lord society" which is just... ughhh. gently caress that's awful.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:06
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That was not a clean landing.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:07
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I'm getting mad about Doctor Who online, what have I become 
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Mar 1, 2020 21:08
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Last weeks episode was my favourite of this series (I can't really explain why so I might be in a minority on that) but I was so disappointed in this episode as the follow up  Especially the timeless child stuff, that just felt a pointless change to the Doctor's history. I was actually quite liking the Masters explanation of how Time Lords were created (particularly as it was implied the scientist killed the child multiple times to force regenerations while experimenting which is definitely what Time Lords would do) until I realised it was going to be the Doctor and then had it confirmed a few minutes later. Dear BBC please stop messing with the past and just make fun stories again.
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Jerusalem posted:The cast and especially Whittaker deserve so much better than this. And this is the sum total of all of this. Whittaker has been done rotten by Chibnal.
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