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Pharohman777 posted:The wall street journal had an article today about the ongoing backlash against china by EU member states, and it ends up listing all the recent hissy-fits that the Chinese government has had there. As miserably corporatist and conservative as the WSJ is, it's funny that they're having it out with the CCP. No idea who's paying attention or who cares, but
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I just watched David Attenborough pet an extinct subspecies of rhinoceros and I'd like to see a few more plagues in China. God, I wish the BBC would just let him call them out by name. "Far Eastern", my rear end.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 07:45 |
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I'm afraid that outside of occasionally using maps with Taiwan as a seperate entity, the beeb has its mouth firmly latched to the PRC cock.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 08:45 |
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First death in Thailand. This guy had a miserable last week of life as he somehow managed to get coronavirus and dengue.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 09:18 |
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Russia and China can have each other forever.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 10:25 |
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Chinese local officials force people to drink disinfectantl This is in a running Washington Post update; scroll down. quote:Chinese villagers hospitalized with poisoning after taking disinfection tablets
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Chinese local officials force people to drink disinfectantl this kind of poo poo is common in rural china. people forget the party doesn't have complete control like they think and a lot of very rural parts of china are basically the loving wild west with local governors doing crazy poo poo which is often super duper bad and harmful, esp. now when virus has people spooked. i remember a friend told me she grew up in some rural rear end part of Anhui, and there was a time when for some reason her small town couldn't get any fresh milk, so the local government gave out a ton of white rabbit candy (a "milk" flavored candy which is actually p good) and told them to melt it down and drink it as a replacement lol.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 17:56 |
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I would vote for free white rabbit candy that stuff is delicious.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 18:08 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Chinese local officials force people to drink disinfectantl Not worse than baijiu
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 18:11 |
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Small blessings, the virus has impacted Chinese industry so much, the pollution has dropped by an incredible amount.
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Magna Kaser posted:i remember a friend told me she grew up in some rural rear end part of Anhui, and there was a time when for some reason her small town couldn't get any fresh milk, so the local government gave out a ton of white rabbit candy (a "milk" flavored candy which is actually p good) and told them to melt it down and drink it as a replacement lol. This same idea worked so well with steel during the Great Leap Forward.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Small blessings, the virus has impacted Chinese industry so much, the pollution has dropped by an incredible amount.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 19:55 |
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Ehhhh an economic crisis and pestilence. Yay
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 20:39 |
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China leading the world in environmental progress
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Magna Kaser posted:this kind of poo poo is common in rural china. people forget the party doesn't have complete control like they think and a lot of very rural parts of china are basically the loving wild west with local governors doing crazy poo poo which is often super duper bad and harmful, esp. now when virus has people spooked. These stories always strike me like an almighty bureaucrat at the top makes a cynical joke, and his lackeys aren't really sure if taking it literally or not is the one that sends them to the gulag. So they go with the save option and take it literally, killing a shitload of people
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Magna Kaser posted:this kind of poo poo is common in rural china. people forget the party doesn't have complete control like they think and a lot of very rural parts of china are basically the loving wild west with local governors doing crazy poo poo which is often super duper bad and harmful, esp. now when virus has people spooked. It was the party making people take poison...
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Mistle posted:As miserably corporatist and conservative as the WSJ is, it's funny that they're having it out with the CCP. China deported two WSJ reporters over hurt feelings and an opinion piece named "China Is The Real Sick Man of Asia". Ever since that I think they have started taken the gloves off with Chinese bullshit.
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Cheesemaster200 posted:China deported two WSJ reporters over hurt feelings and an opinion piece named "China Is The Real Sick Man of Asia". Ever since that I think they have started taken the gloves off with Chinese bullshit. To be fair that was a dumb title and they knew what they were doing. You can call out the Chinese economy without using colonial-era terms that are pretty iffy.
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LimburgLimbo posted:To be fair that was a dumb title and they knew what they were doing. You can call out the Chinese economy without using colonial-era terms that are pretty iffy. Agreed about the title, but keep in mind that the journalists who were deported not only were not the authors of that article, but weren't even in remotely the same department. The "sick man of Asia" article was a random op-ed piece presented in WSJ's Opinion section, not actual news/journalism. The absurdity here isn't that the CCP was angry over WSJ's article; it's that they took out that anger on people who had essentially nothing to do with it.
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Devils Affricate posted:Agreed about the title, but keep in mind that the journalists who were deported not only were not the authors of that article, but weren't even in remotely the same department. The "sick man of Asia" article was a random op-ed piece presented in WSJ's Opinion section, not actual news/journalism. The absurdity here isn't that the CCP was angry over WSJ's article; it's that they took out that anger on people who had essentially nothing to do with it. Aaah okay didn't know that, but also not surprised it's just dumb punitive stuff by the ccp
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 05:57 |
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"Sick man of X" is also commonly used geopolitically and historically, not just with China but with any country that should in theory be stronger than it actually is. Mostly famously it's referred to the Ottoman Empire but practically every great power in Europe has gotten the title at some point.
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Devils Affricate posted:The absurdity here isn't that the CCP was angry over WSJ's article; it's that they took out that anger on people who had essentially nothing to do with it. This has been the CCP's standard operating procedure for the better part of a decade. Just ask Canada's current and former hostages.
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Don't forget future hostages
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 07:10 |
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Future hostage is a great username
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LimburgLimbo posted:To be fair that was a dumb title and they knew what they were doing. You can call out the Chinese economy without using colonial-era terms that are pretty iffy. China isn't a former African colony. they are a world power that is doing its own colonialism now. we are allowed to make fun of them
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Fojar38 posted:Don't forget future hostages
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Magna Kaser posted:this kind of poo poo is common in rural china. people forget the party doesn't have complete control like they think and a lot of very rural parts of china are basically the loving wild west with local governors doing crazy poo poo which is often super duper bad and harmful, esp. now when virus has people spooked. Let them eat cake, with Chinese characteristics
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 14:57 |
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I thought it was colonial language because you're grouping all of Asia together? Even then, China isn't doing the worst, by a large margin.
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 16:36 |
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Aha. China cracks down on 'sexual innuendo' and 'celebrity gossip' in new censorship rulesquote:Sweeping new internet censorship rules have gone into effect in China, prompting concerns that authorities will further control information and online debate as the country reels from the coronavirus outbreak. So yeah, AO3 was doomed. Has post-Mao Chinese official culture been consistently anti-talking-about-sex?
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 16:40 |
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Why does China even bother having an internet or outside connections if they are just going to keep walling it off and laying death traps everywhere.
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oohhboy posted:Why does China even bother having an internet or outside connections if they are just going to keep walling it off and laying death traps everywhere. The death traps are the point.
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oohhboy posted:Why does China even bother having an internet or outside connections if they are just going to keep walling it off and laying death traps everywhere. To let a hundred routers bloom, why else?
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Well, yeah. It's rapidly getting to the point of becoming functionally useless.
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oohhboy posted:Why does China even bother having an internet or outside connections if they are just going to keep walling it off and laying death traps everywhere. How else would they find out what everyone's talking about on WeChat?
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I pop in from time to time on this thread. Please forgive me for this if the question was asked. How much of a part did TCM play in making this coronavirus be as devastating as it is? I’m assuming people are going to the hospital built in 10 days and being told to eat rats dipped in urine or some poo poo and they’ll be fine. I don’t think there was much actual medicine done in the first crucial days of the outbreak
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chinese hair cave posted:I pop in from time to time on this thread. Please forgive me for this if the question was asked. little to none. the problem was local officials hiding the problem. china does have actual medicine fwiw i know it was 'recommended' that people at home treat w/ TCM but that's like drinking herbal tea as a placebo. anyone with serious symptoms tried to get actual treatment if you want to say the root cause was TCM because otherwise people wouldn't have put bats and pangolins in a wild food market in the middle of the city, then sure i guess Mozi fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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Mozi posted:little to none. the problem was local officials hiding the problem. china does have actual medicine fwiw It was actually the root cause yeah
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Mozi posted:if you want to say the root cause was TCM because otherwise people wouldn't have put bats and pangolins in a wild food market in the middle of the city, then sure i guess welp
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Pangolins are eaten as well, and it was probably the flesh and live animals (rather than the scales which are used in TCM) which passed the virus, although that's just an assumption. If you add TCM to China's exotic meat fixation (and the two are linked quite closely) then yeah you could plausibly claim that TCM had a large role in all this, but it could've happened other ways and you could probably claim that eventually it would've happened regardless of those practices.
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News releases clearly state that the virus was _discovered_ in China, not that it evolved there (it did).
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