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Vlad posted: IT'S LEATH—you know what? I don't have to deal with this, I'm a contractor. Deal's off. Put me back in the book. I'd rather deal with the Archon than these assholes.  And he should be back in 3...2...1-- MOTHER HUMPING HUMPERS! I take it you had a good time while you were gone? ...Eat a dick. Just...eat a dick. ...That rough, huh? Look, go ahead and rest man, we've held down the fort well enough while you were gone, we can do so at least one day longer. That..that actually sounds nice....Did you happen to finally get laid, bro? Pffft, I wish; nah, it's more that if I abuse you any more mentally right now, you'd snap, and then who would take my poo poo? Franky? He'd utterly pulverize my poo poo while whistling a jaunty tune. Probably the same with the new guy. The puppet just plain creeps me out, and the others would just inflict some manner of not as painful torture on me. That's...sweet of you? That, you're the only one who's name I cam reliably remember. ...Hell with it, this is probably as good as it's going to get.
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FeyerbrandX posted:
Hot drat, I finally get to use the fan art placeholder!
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Wow, what's it do?
Its symbolic Frank, Things don't always have to do things. Now, help me plug it into the wall.
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Okay. So. Good news and bad. The good news is, we've successfully imported our jerks into Bonds and are ready to go there. Some design shenanigans ensued, but they were (mostly) on purpose. The bad news is... ... ... we can't get our second mage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxECJNYPuA I'm not going to hide this as a spoiler anymore: Sternn is our candidate for changing classes since thief abilities are "lmfao why" in late game. My plan was to dual class Sternn after he picked up some rapid HP/levels from being a thief. However, in order to dual class he needs a 15 in his current class' prime stat (dex, no sweat here) and a 17 in his target class (INT, obviously). I didn't know those rules and pushed (B)egin Adventure without a 17 in intelligence. We need everyone else to stay the same class, so now the entire plan's hosed to all hell. So, here's the deal. It's vote time. Pick one of the following options: A) Soldier through to the end with a ridiculously high level thief. This will obviously be the hardest and least fun, but if the will of the thread demands it, it shall be done. B) Cross our fingers and hope we can find something to boost Sternn's IQ 2 points so we can do the class change normally. Has the benefit of preserving his fighting ability and backstab for something that is by no means guarateed. C) Crack open the hex editor and put our collective thumbs on the scale. I'm less inclined to think this violates the "clean run only" rule since you're literally allowed to edit your new characters in Curse before you start AND we're giving up access to ranger/bard/paladin with our loadout. Voting lasts until whenever I feel like it. One vote and one choice per person, obvo. Thanks!
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Mar 1, 2020 08:29
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Voting C I can't imagine Stern would have it any other way.
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Mar 1, 2020 08:35
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Chokes McGee posted:Okay. So. Good news and bad. do C, but if you feel its unfair just lower one of the other stats by 2.
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Mar 1, 2020 08:39
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C. Cheat. Cheat like the wind! Besides, what has the game done for you lately? No, seriously, I'm cool with blatant cheating; hell, maybe you could write it off as a hiccup/sneeze of goddess power altering him, and wouldn't you know it, it was only good for that one time.
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Mar 1, 2020 08:41
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So what I'm hearing is, cheating's okay, if you have  charisma.
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Mar 1, 2020 09:13
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I mean, I was going to suggest hex editing Sternn to be a Paladin because he conned a god. But cheating is fine. I mean, hex editing in a necklace of fireballs for crappy boring combat is also fine as long as you still think you can give a entertaining and within sneezing distance of fair (a distant secondary concern) description of the normal gameplay.
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Mar 1, 2020 10:21
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C, and you could even (keeping this as oblique as possible) use the events that kick off Curse as a narrative justification for the stat boost if you feel the need.
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docbeard posted:C, and you could even (keeping this as oblique as possible) use the events that kick off Curse as a narrative justification for the stat boost if you feel the need. This works for me. Considering I sometimes moved or deleted the Monsters' Magic Abilities data file to help myself win certain fights in Curse of the Azure Bonds and Pools of Darkness after finding online instructions in doing so, I have no business protesting cheating with a hex editor. Just be careful you know what you're doing and don't somehow wreck your game and/or computer. I still got my rear end kicked by monster strength, AC, and numbers alone quite a lot, the fights are that bad. Funny, my party usually consisted of a Paladin, a Ranger, two Mages, a Cleric, and a Thief. The Thief was usually just in case I needed one, I suppose a second Cleric could compensate. Regardless, I'm eager to see what you have planned. (BTW, my judgment of your pace still has 4-5 updates before we finish Pool of Radiance, if I'm right.)
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Mar 1, 2020 10:52
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C. What even is the point of having magic if you can't throw hexes around like it's no thang? A9 11 8D 04 60. It's what Sternn would want, and The Bishop would understand.
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Mar 1, 2020 11:02
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C It seems to be the most in-character option. Maybe Hannover accidentally smashes through the hex code rather than a wall.
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Mar 1, 2020 11:04
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I guess my question to you, Chokes, is that was there at any point in the first game where Sternn having 17 Int instead of 15 Int would have changed anything? If not, then C, otherwise C, but with a humorous explanation for why he is slightly smarter now. I mean, you said you always intended for him to be the mage so no harm, no foul.
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Mar 1, 2020 12:01
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12 Since we're going to hexedit him. But yeah, don't skimp on your narrative causality. Maybe just tank some stat for fun to balance the scales.
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Randalor posted:I guess my question to you, Chokes, is that was there at any point in the first game where Sternn having 17 Int instead of 15 Int would have changed anything? If not, then C, otherwise C, but with a humorous explanation for why he is slightly smarter now.
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Mar 1, 2020 14:11
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Definitely C and dualclass him, but you also have to use him for the wizard with the sphere encounter (Mild Curse spoiler that shouldn’t make much sense if you haven’t played it).
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Another vote for C here. It's very in character for Sternn to try and cheat himself an edge.
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Randalor posted:I guess my question to you, Chokes, is that was there at any point in the first game where Sternn having 17 Int instead of 15 Int would have changed anything? Nope, and that's ultimately the justification I'm using to preserve my "clean run" status. INT makes absolutely no difference for his character path in PoR. The only thing it changes is making me say a lot of nasty words when I found out it was too late to fix it. Thus, an 0F has been changed to a 11, and we are back on our planned trajectory. Voting is (obviously) now closed. Thanks, guys! Commander Keene posted:Chokes says that you have the opportunity to change the characters' stats when you import them, so he could've fixed the problem when he imported Sternn into the second game. Incorrect, unfortunately. Imported characters can't be altered AFAIK, which is how we got into this mess Commander Keene posted:Still would've had to explain the discrepancy, but it could've been something as simple as "Hey, I found this book and now thinking is easier!"  
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I was going to vote for option D: come up with a narrative excuse to be able to rotate party members and swap in Willow or Llewyn when you need more casters. But failing that, C is the "Sternnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!" thing to do.
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DGM_2 posted:I was going to vote for option D: come up with a narrative excuse to be able to rotate party members and swap in Willow or Llewyn when you need more casters. I forgot waaaaaaaaaaay back when before we even got off the ground with the very first wizardry rp that I cheated and edited everyone's stats. Long way to go to get back to where we started
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I was going to chime in that GBC, I believe, has tools for this, but you already did it the hard way so never mind. I've hex-edited a bit in the past and I find it to be a royal pain in the sphincter
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JustJeff88 posted:I was going to chime in that GBC, I believe, has tools for this, but you already did it the hard way so never mind. Finding the info was the hard part. The gods have us the Bless editor for a reason 
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Yeah cheating in the stats is definitely in character for Stern. Could also blame it on Rezen's goddess powers randomly activating.
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Hell, I'd settle for a joke where someone demands to see which character sheet and it has the 5 scribled out and a 7 written in its place.
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C, It's the Stern thing to do
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Since the latter three games in the series support Paladins and Rangers, I think that it would be fun if one or both of those were incorporated. This party has multiple fighters, and fighters are mechanically very boring in most D&D versions. Before anyone says anything, yes GBC has a utility for this and no, I am not receiving any money for this endorsement. Fantasy games in general suffer from non-magical classes being as bland as beige.
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Yeah I think Justine should dual class to Paladin, she's the only Lawful Good character in the party
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There's a line in Aliens where Ripley asks, "Did IQs drop sharply while I was away?". Maybe Sternn didn't get smarter, maybe everybody else just got more stupid!
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wafflemoose posted:Yeah I think Justine should dual class to Paladin, she's the only Lawful Good character in the party PRETTY sure you can't dual class a transferred character into a non-basic class but what do I know  It's too late now at any rate
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So things are going well with the LP right now. I just accidentally deleted the video for the entire section dealing the Wealthy District, Temple of Bane, and Mace.  Among other things, we missed the world's stupidest patrol, an old pervy orc trying to feel up Heather and getting his head handed to him, and a half-orc Shaman literally named Mace after his Mace +2. More important is the Dust of Disappearance (  DO NOT POST FURTHER DETAILS ABOUT THAT YOU DORKS ). I'm going to write all the loot off in story as another bribe to keep Sternn on task but we're gonna jump straight to the Kobold Caves after this. At least it's getting us to Curse faster. We may make it by summer!Appreciate the patience. I should have an update out soonish. Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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Chokes McGee posted:PRETTY sure you can't dual class a transferred character into a non-basic class but what do I know Characters cannot be dual-classed into or out of a paladin in D&D rules or changed in transfer, regrettably. Having a mechanic where a simple fighter becomes a sainted holy warrior blessed by the gods would be grand. I did back-check and apparently the GBC lets players make paladins & rangers in Pools of Radiance and then transfer them. PoR didn't support these classes, but all of the later games did and GBC just extends that option into the first game. The Krynn trilogy added a lot more flavour and variety to class options, but I'm pretty sure that Dragonlance has a strict policy against the riff-raff in this game.
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Chokes McGee posted:So things are going well with the LP right now. I just accidentally deleted the video for the entire section dealing the Wealthy District, Temple of Bane, and Mace. I don't suppose you're on Windows and you just forgot to check the recycle bin? quote:PRETTY sure you can't dual class a transferred character into a non-basic class but what do I know Considering that you're already cheating a couple of extra points of INT for Sternn, my first response to that is "Says who?" Granted, it would be OOC for Justine to cheat her way into paladinhood herself, but that doesn't mean Sternn can't swindle God and church behind her back... DGM_2 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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DGM_2 posted:I don't suppose you're on Windows and you just forgot to check the recycle bin? I'm on Linux and I managed to somehow delete it off my backup drive. My old-school game recording laptop has a pretty puny SSD so I can't keep a bunch of playthrough videos on it at once or I run out of space fast. I was trying to drop extraneous false starts so I could get to the next update and whoops. The good news is, I was smart enough to do one mission per recording, so we can by and large drop it without missing much. GoingPostal posted:And she *is* already a Ftfy
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Alternative idea: Rezen's goddess powers kick in just long enough to grant Justine paladinhood, so instead of having to thank one of Sternn's con jobs for her holy powers she's technically required to worship the loopy mage. Either way, comedy goldmine.
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So are we reconstructing the Mace update with backup saves or skipping it thanks to your mishap? If the latter, fine, everybody gets one, but be careful and thx for letting us know the highlights. I’ll say more about my fond memories of the area once you post the update or confirm it’s not happening.  I don’t know, Dragonlance allows Kender. They probably have low riffraff standards.
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Hey, down the line, if one or more party members permanently bite it, Chokes has plenty of other ...actually, now I kinda want to see how Trog would be as a Paladin.
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DGM_2 posted:Alternative idea: Rezen's goddess powers kick in just long enough to grant Justine paladinhood, so instead of having to thank one of Sternn's con jobs for her holy powers she's technically required to worship the loopy mage. This I like.
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Since you're jumping directly from Radiance to Curse, I suppose this means the mad solo adventures of Sternn in Hillsfar are completely out of the question?
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