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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
| R. Burgon |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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72 | 19.20% |
| A. Rayner |
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35 | 9.33% |
| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Tbh if number go down as rapidly as it has been, a month from now there will be empty docks all over the shop. E; the stock market has lost $5,000,000,000,000 in the last few days and lmao E2; Bernie did 5/1 Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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I just went back and did a quick check and there's a six week lead time from a ship leaving China to making it's first arrival in Europe, as opposed to three weeks max from Asia to the American west coast based on CMA CGM's scheduling at any rate. So we could be looking at empty docks here within a month
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Mar 2, 2020 08:51
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No no, the FTSE just opened 2.5% up so Coronavirus has been defeated and everyone is saved by capitalism!
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Mar 2, 2020 09:10
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Bundy posted:I'm convinced that had social media and media frenzy been at 2020 levels for sars and swine flu and what not, there'd have been the same sensationalism and panic then. I don't think that's true, the thing with the corona virus is that it seems to be very contagious and basically doesn't look like it is going to be contained at this point. So even though it is less deadly than SARS (and way, way less deadly and horrifying than ebola) I kind of expect it to cause more widespread problems than they did
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Mar 2, 2020 09:18
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otoh if they keep this up it might end up saving more lives than it ended Jaeluni Asjil posted:Sorry for the Torygraph link:
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Mar 2, 2020 09:36
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Bundy posted:I'm convinced that had social media and media frenzy been at 2020 levels for sars and swine flu and what not, there'd have been the same sensationalism and panic then. OwlFancier posted:Did either of those switch off china? I don't think we'd've been able to know as easily back then. I have to say, I do wonder whether this virus hasn't already been doing the rounds all winter without anyone knowing about it yet - there have been reports of more-nasty-than-usual winter respiratory infections this year, with longer asymptomatic periods, and I do wonder whether it's not already done its pandemiccing in this country...
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Mar 2, 2020 09:43
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Paperhouse posted:I don't think that's true, the thing with the corona virus is that it seems to be very contagious and basically doesn't look like it is going to be contained at this point. So even though it is less deadly than SARS (and way, way less deadly and horrifying than ebola) I kind of expect it to cause more widespread problems than they did It’s not that it’s especially contagious (R naught, or the amount of people a carrier infects is 2.2 compared to 3 for SARS and 10-20 for measles) it’s more that the incubation period is loooooong which is great for spreading widely.
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Mar 2, 2020 09:52
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It was inevitable that eventually an actual virus would have played Plague Inc tbh.
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Mar 2, 2020 10:01
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Madagascar has already closed its seaport.
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Mar 2, 2020 10:03
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What's the likelihood of this disease, the corona eliminating the old Gammons?
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Mar 2, 2020 10:21
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My parents and grandparents are already dead, I say bring on the Boomer Plague.
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Mar 2, 2020 10:28
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Lungboy posted:No no, the FTSE just opened 2.5% up so Coronavirus has been defeated and everyone is saved by capitalism! The FTSE will have jumped up because (1) the £ sunk more against the $ this morning and quite a chunk of the FTSE gets earnings in $ - don't ask me how much, and (2) people hoping to pick up stocks which are cheaper today. (If FTSE up and £v$ up = good, if FTSE down and £v$ down = bad, if FTSE up/down and £v$ down/up harder to say need to look more closely). I know, :wall: (Why isn't there a wall smilie?)
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Mar 2, 2020 10:55
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Ash Crimson posted:What's the likelihood of this disease, the corona eliminating the old Gammons? nontrivial - the problem is that with all hospitals choked with casualties and the NHS shuddering to a halt as the staff get sick, you have to ask is it worth trading healthcare for a bunch of people dying prematurely. staying healthy is pretty important rn
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Mar 2, 2020 10:58
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The FTSE will have jumped up because (1) the £ sunk more against the $ this morning and quite a chunk of the FTSE gets earnings in $ - don't ask me how much, and (2) people hoping to pick up stocks which are cheaper today. It's already lost half its gains. Multiple central banks have stated they will step in if needed which seemed to help early doors but it's not lasting, and we still haven't felt the true impact of China stopping production or seen the real US Corona figures.
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Mar 2, 2020 11:00
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I'm mostly worried for a friend who is old, has COPD, and is immunocompromised. She's basically the worst possible target for the disease. Really hope I don't have to bury her this year 
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Mar 2, 2020 11:01
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Put this friend in one of those hamster ball things we do to stop people getting diseases or injured.
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Mar 2, 2020 11:17
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The stockmarket trend is likely to be down over the next couple of months while this coronavirus thing plays itself out. Sure, there'll be days when the markets perk up again but there were days like that in 2008 too, when the markets had a sudden burst of optimism even though the underlying situation was unchanged.
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Mar 2, 2020 11:21
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Bit the bullet and voted this morning. Leader: RLB (no 2nd or 3rd pref - I know Starmer will win unless there's some kind of miracle). Deputy: Burgon / Butler / Rayner / Allin Khan. (Was torn between Burgon and Butler but Burgon made a lot of the right noises over the weekend so finally plumped for him).
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Mar 2, 2020 11:22
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Corona virus may just provide the government with the excuse it needs for why brexit has nothing to do with the economy being poo poo.
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Mar 2, 2020 11:27
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Azza Bamboo posted:Corona virus may just provide the government with the excuse it needs for why brexit has nothing to do with the economy being poo poo. Given they spent 12 years saying that the global financial crisis of 2008 caused by US banks was Labour's fault (despite Brown being praised for his actions preventing the UK from experiencing the worst of it), we have to go on the attack and say that it is their fault because they were too poo poo to know how to manage it.
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Mar 2, 2020 11:29
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Liam Byrne's noooooooote
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Mar 2, 2020 11:33
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Azza Bamboo posted:noooooooote 
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Mar 2, 2020 11:37
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Those hand wipes are like gold dust now. Does anyone have a dark web hook up?
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Mar 2, 2020 12:23
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Lungboy posted:It's already lost half its gains. Multiple central banks have stated they will step in if needed which seemed to help early doors but it's not lasting, and we still haven't felt the true impact of China stopping production or seen the real US Corona figures. And has now gone into the red again.
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Mar 2, 2020 12:34
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Anyone else secretly thinking 'phew, Labour govt aren't having to manage these crises (floods, viruses, economy collapse, brexit etc) and getting the blame' while having to cope with PLP shenanigans, anti-semitism smears and so on?
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Mar 2, 2020 13:09
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anyone else secretly thinking 'phew, Labour govt aren't having to manage these crises (floods, viruses, economy collapse, brexit etc) and getting the blame' while having to cope with PLP shenanigans, anti-semitism smears and so on? Slightly, though equally I'm a bit concerned that it might kill a shitload more people as a result. Also not convinced the labour leadership will actually capitalize on the godawful tory response.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:12
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anyone else secretly thinking 'phew, Labour govt aren't having to manage these crises (floods, viruses, economy collapse, brexit etc) and getting the blame' while having to cope with PLP shenanigans, anti-semitism smears and so on? No because Jeremy Corbyn lead government would actually be doing something about all these things
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Mar 2, 2020 13:21
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I was going to say that's quite a weird take.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:22
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The headlines would be utter poo poo, 100% "Corbyn lets migrants from Coronaland flood English villages" but the headlines are utter poo poo anyway.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:24
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Mar 2, 2020 13:25
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I guess it depends whether you expect the PLP to take the opportunity to gently caress the corbyn administration and its wider project with opportunistic sniping as it tried to manage the crisis. Which, I mean, I absolutely would expect.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:28
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sinky posted:Corbyn
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Mar 2, 2020 13:32
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Guavanaut posted:"Heh heh... and now I'm going to fire my macho peas up your sunset burger so you don't get fillet steak prego..." Ooh, cheeky.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:34
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That all seems more CUKTIG inspired to me, he said, implying CUKTIG ever inspired anyone.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:36
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anyone else secretly thinking 'phew, Labour govt aren't having to manage these crises (floods, viruses, economy collapse, brexit etc) and getting the blame' while having to cope with PLP shenanigans, anti-semitism smears and so on? That's not my primary thought but a Labour minority government would be getting attacked for not doing enough while parliament and the press also attacked anything they proposed so the actual results might have been even worse than they will be as necessary messaging and legislation gets derailed by bullshit. FTSE in the red again and BoE fires one of its final bullets- a vague statement about doing everything necessary to restore stability. QE can't unlock quarantines or make raw components magically appear though. Edit: "Finally, fans in Southampton were warned not to touch or take selfies with pop star Peter Andre." Good advice BBC! namesake fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/markdistef/status/1234457036856885250?s=21 An interesting point. State broadcasters are useful for rapidly disseminating official information in emergencies, but they have to build up a solid base of credibility beforehand.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:46
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I have been sat in an office in Southampton Magistrates Court for almost two hours waiting for a court to empty so I can do a solitary check on a printer and leave
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Mar 2, 2020 13:47
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I have been sat in an office in Southampton Magistrates Court for almost two hours waiting for a court to empty so I can do a solitary check on a printer and leave Start coughing loudly while describing your holiday in northern Italy. It'll empty the place in a flash.
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Mar 2, 2020 13:50
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wow  quote:The British economy would be at most 0.16% larger by the middle of the next decade under a comprehensive trade deal with the US, the government has admitted
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/markdistef/status/1234457036856885250?s=21 I thought that was what The Archers were for. (My folks - well just my mum now- have listened religiously every day sometimes twice a day to The Archers for my entire life. Does my head in.)
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