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Klob out is good. She has no real national base.
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Roluth posted:Ugh. Looks like Biden is the anointed candidate. Little hope now at Bernie winning, honestly. Stop Complaining And Work Harder
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King of Solomon posted:Uh, no? What this means is that Bernie just won Minnesota. It's better that she dropped out today than if she waited until Wednesday. I think it means she knew she was gonna lose Minnesota by a decently large margin
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Roluth posted:Ugh. Looks like Biden is the anointed candidate. Little hope now at Bernie winning, honestly. Stop it with the defeatism, seriously. Go volunteer.
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brugroffil posted:Our choices in November may be two white dudes in an advanced stage of dementia lmao A very apt metaphor for American politics in the 21st century imo
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refresh my memory, what happens to early ballots cast for candidates that drop out before the actual primary happens
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They’re trying to help as many people reach 15% in Texas and California as possible.
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Mar 2, 2020 19:38
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Warren drop out and endorse Bernie, do it you coward.
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Tatsuta Age posted:Stop Complaining And Work Harder
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Klob dropping out now is a good sign, wtf are people doomsaying about, it means she was going to lose her home state to the Bern.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the bounce is because the moderates have probably found there candidate. now we will see if it matters. bernie can crush biden in debates and such. It's more the narrative then any worry about poll numbers. Bernie was relying on a fractured moderate voter base to sneak in wins. With moderates dropping out so quickly, it speaks that Biden is now the candidate of choice for non-Bernie people, which frankly outnumber the opposite. I'm just dismayed that the only thing Nevada actually did was bring people to Biden. If Nevada's results is all it takes to freak out half the Democratic voter base, then this kind of bounce was always going to be very big.
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Popete posted:Warren drop out and endorse Bernie, do it you coward. She will endorse Biden. As will Obama.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:They’re trying to help as many people reach 15% in Texas and California as possible. Yeah but now it's quite possible that Bernie gets a SC sized win in Minnesota
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What generally causes candidates to drop out is lack of funding, when the only options are to suspend your campaign or lay off all your campaign workers (which would be a kiss of death in the news anyways). Butt and Klob almost certainly ran out of money. Warren's still fundraising enough to stay in the race. From the Weigel's most recent Trailer: quote:Money watch
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Cowcaster posted:refresh my memory, what happens to early ballots cast for candidates that drop out before the actual primary happens They count.
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Cowcaster posted:refresh my memory, what happens to early ballots cast for candidates that drop out before the actual primary happens The ballots stand
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Klob's out according to WaPo alert.
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Klobuchar is out. https://twitter.com/USMCBRAT2/status/1234548853543665670
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Frakt0n posted:I never post in this thread (or anywhere) but I want to thank everyone for the amazing work that goes into keeping everyone here informed and sane. well, one outta two ain't bad oxsnard posted:They probably had internal results that she was gonna lose Minnesota this makes sense to me and also klob still has at least a decade of solid senatoring in her so there's some overlap with Butt's presumed planning
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Lmao, Joe won a state, every centrist must now flee the race
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Remember that no poll had Buttigiege OR Sanders killing Biden in the Iowa and NH. Bernie had just pulled ahead of Biden in polling, and Buttigiege was nowhere close. Plus, think about how many hosed polls we've seen so far of 90% of participants being 60+. Yeah that's one thing to be hopeful about--Rat put his resources into NH and Iowa and did well there. But didn't translate to anything else. Biden put everything into SC, a state that heavily favored him already and did very well there. But his earlier performances were very underwhelming. Sanders is the only one with a real solid base.
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Roluth posted:It's more the narrative then any worry about poll numbers. Bernie was relying on a fractured moderate voter base to sneak in wins. With moderates dropping out so quickly, it speaks that Biden is now the candidate of choice for non-Bernie people, which frankly outnumber the opposite. he beats biden in head to heads still though. debates wont help biden either.
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brugroffil posted:Our choices in November may be two white dudes in an advanced stage of dementia lmao Gotta be honest there's a small part of me that wants to see what thsoe debates will be like but I think if it actually manifests in reality I'll be way more bummed than amused.
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Unlike Pete who was gonna win jackshit Amy was gonna win MN which will now go to Bernie.
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Popete posted:Warren drop out and endorse Bernie, do it you coward. LOL. As expected, Amy did the opposite and endorsed Biden. Seriously, how could you expect otherwise?
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Lol, they really did this about a week too late.
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LeeMajors posted:She will endorse Biden. As will Obama. Strongly doubt it, at least before the convention, on both counts. Warren would burn whatever bridges she has to reelection in Mass, and Obama isn't going to stake what remains of his legacy on anyone until he's sure they're gonna win.
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How are they gonna call "Bernie Bros" sexist and homophobic now that it's just down to him and Biden?
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InnercityGriot posted:Why is Klob dropping out now? Would a last minute move like this even shift her voters to Biden? Doesn't this assure Bernie wins Minnesota? What am I missing here? This seems stupid. She doesn't want to lose her home state.
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My wife and I are going together to vote Bernie in El Paso, Tx tomorrow. I haven't gotten a feel for the general opinion here and the only sign I've seen is in front of a big mansion near my place. It's a Bloomberg sign. That makes me giggle.
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Klobuchar will endorse Biden tonight. Warren has all but openly announced she's holding out until the convention so she's the choice when they take it away from Bernie. Biden has no ground game in Super Tuesday, Klobb and Buttergreg are both out, Bloomberg will hold out through ST then likely endorse Biden. It's now or never. Bernie HAS to win Super Tuesday by a decisive margin, or it's going to be Biden
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so these centrist fucks can drop out and get behind their person, but the progressives can't
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Carew posted:Gotta be honest there's a small part of me that wants to see what thsoe debates will be like but I think if it actually manifests in reality I'll be way more bummed than amused. Yeah, I could see that. I could imagine myself trying to mine comedy value from a Biden/Trump debate, but that being overcome with crippling sadness that our country has come to this...
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Unlike Pete who was gonna win jackshit Amy was gonna win MN which will now go to Bernie. What? I didn't see a single poll out of MN that had Amy beating Bernie.
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Roluth posted:It's more the narrative then any worry about poll numbers. Bernie was relying on a fractured moderate voter base to sneak in wins. With moderates dropping out so quickly, it speaks that Biden is now the candidate of choice for non-Bernie people, which frankly outnumber the opposite. He was not, Bernie will win in a 1v1 election. The only reason we were hoping for wins through non-viable opposition was because splitting the vote 5 ways makes it nearly impossible to get the majority to win the convention in the first round of voting. Bernie is getting almost as many 2nd choice voters from these dropouts as Biden is, and will get more once Warren drops out.
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Roluth posted:It's more the narrative then any worry about poll numbers. Bernie was relying on a fractured moderate voter base to sneak in wins. With moderates dropping out so quickly, it speaks that Biden is now the candidate of choice for non-Bernie people, which frankly outnumber the opposite. Super Tuesday is tomorrow. The narrative coming out of it will be, "Bernie is clearly the frontrunner again." The media may hate him, but guess what? That's gonna be the big story. And there are considerably fewer Never-Bernie people out there than Bernie people; the non-Bernies just need to be convinced that he's the better choice to beat Trump. Bernie will make that case in the coming weeks.
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Warren staying in makes her look extremely bad.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:so these centrist fucks can drop out and get behind their person, but the progressives can't Because Warren isn't a progressive, clearly.
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Why are people so convinced Sanders can't win while simultaneously saying he is the only one who can win Christ. The man needs to win a national election and you treat him like he can't win unless someone splits the vote. Believe in your drat candidate instead of giving up.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:What? I didn't see a single poll out of MN that had Amy beating Bernie. I saw polls with her winning by 6 points. This might be a good thing at least for that one state.
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