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Horizon Burning posted:this is precisely what happens all throughout history jfc lmao Exactly. It's not like Franz Ferdinand getting whacked by Young Bosnia was huge in and of itself, but it did kickstart WWI and thus WWII.
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In light of all this chaos, maybe the chancellor does need some emergency powers to maintain order?
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The TROS novelization also reveals that Palpatine transferred his consciousness into the clone on Exogol as he was falling down the Death Star shaft, and the reason he’s even crustier was because his clone body wasn’t quite ready, yet.
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Releasing the novelization and finalizing the record after the movie has released and fan response has been gauged is an act of supreme cowardice
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He had the means to send a clone-puppet to the second death star on his behalf but he chose to visit the space station with a 100 percent explosion rate
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General Dog posted:Releasing the novelization and finalizing the record after the movie has released and fan response has been gauged is an act of supreme cowardice Notably, all novelizations prior to Disney were released well in advance of their movies, which makes them interesting as they often preserve details from older drafts of the movie, such as Yoda being blue in ESB, and all the deleted scenes from ANH.
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General Dog posted:Releasing the novelization and finalizing the record after the movie has released and fan response has been gauged is an act of supreme cowardice they did it with TLJ, too
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The only book versions you need to read of Star Wars is the epic poem version in the style of Beowulf.
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Hwaet! There are mythic heroes on both sides.
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Gonz posted:The TROS novelization also reveals that Palpatine transferred his consciousness into the clone on Exogol as he was falling down the Death Star shaft, and the reason he’s even crustier was because his clone body wasn’t quite ready, yet.  lmao I hope they at least threw a little money at Tom Veitch
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i can't get over how bad the writing is in just about every EU release since the disney acquisition. a lot of the old EU was, like, boringly competent. so many of the new EU book feel like they're written with no oversight and by people who aren't even really sure how to write a good sentence. maybe disney's hiring whatever author they can get who will do it for peanuts.
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Based on my experience working with Disney its because the books are a sub rounding error of profits and nobody cares whats in them as long as they sell so somebody is getting a bonus to keep them coming and cheap.
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The books under Disney are a brand management exercise meant to paper over any criticisms hardcore fans make of the films
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OctoberCountry posted:
So wait, if he transferred his consciousness into an unfinished clone, why didn't he just make another clone and do it again once it was finished? The man had 30 years.
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I think the idea is that none of the clones are ready. The spirit hopping process decays whatever clone vessel he goes into. So after 30 years, he's ready to jump ship into Rey. He then discovers the dyad can rejuvenate the clone body in ways he never could before. So basically/exactly Dark Empire. Except there's no ancient Jedi to grab his spirit and take it to the afterlife as he dies. lol I don't mind the explanation, it makes sense. I think I would have appreciated them possibly also referencing the explosion of blue flames in RotJ. Either as a side effect of his spirit leaving his body or it being when his body "died". Edit: Also I'm reading on other leaks that Palpatine's son is also apparently a clone? Of Sheev? He's was a stable clone, but lacked any Force abilties so wasn't a good vessel. The son did have offspring though which was gifted in the Force. So technically Rey is Palpatine's daughter in a way. Teek fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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Zoran posted:The books under Disney are a brand management exercise meant to paper over any criticisms hardcore fans make of the films Isn't that what most of the old EU stuff was for?
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Horizon Burning posted:i can't get over how bad the writing is in just about every EU release since the disney acquisition. a lot of the old EU was, like, boringly competent. so many of the new EU book feel like they're written with no oversight and by people who aren't even really sure how to write a good sentence. maybe disney's hiring whatever author they can get who will do it for peanuts. I think it's less a drop and quality and more of a change in style. The 90s EU books were mostly written by cheap authors who had only ever pumped out paperback sci-fi and RPG sourcebooks. Most of the modern books are all written by authors who have only ever put out YA novels.
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A Force ability clone deteriorating would also at least explain/justify why they don't just clone Jedi all the time if something inherent in the Force makes clone bodies break down like that. Spoiler dump from Reddit from someone who listened to a podcast who has the novelization. I've highlighed the bits I like that I wish were in the movie: Reddit person posted:I’ll try and update as I listen: - So after Palpatine realises that Ben and Rey are the dyad, he reminisces about the time when he wanted to create a Dyad between himself and Anakin. Darth Plagueis also wanted a Dyad between himself and Palpatine. This is because the power of the Dyad is just so powerful, more so than any Rule of 2 concept. Except Palpatine and Plagueis obviously failed. Ben and Rey’s Dyad is referred to “their power”. Teek fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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quote:She did not mourn Kylo Ren. She would never mourn Kylo Ren. But she dearly would have loved the chance to get to know Ben Solo.
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The implication in ROS itself that Palpatine’s body just somehow survived the explosion but had to be zombified by black magic/forbidden science is way cooler.
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I know soul transfer was something that had already appeared in the old EU, but it was a terrible element to introduce then, and it is now as well. At some point, dead needs to mean dead. Now, no one's ever really gone.
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Teek posted:So basically/exactly Dark Empire. Except there's no ancient Jedi to grab his spirit and take it to the afterlife as he dies. lol You know, they could have all those dudes retaining their individuality as Force ghosts drag him into the Force along with them. Two birds with one stone.
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Emrikol posted:You know, they could have all those dudes retaining their individuality as Force ghosts drag him into the Force along with them. Two birds with one stone. It certainly would have been a way to give Anakin back some agency as the Chosen One. The Jedi of old try to come in and drag Palpatine's spirit down, and only Anakin has the power to drag his spirit to hell.
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General Dog posted:I know soul transfer was something that had already appeared in the old EU, but it was a terrible element to introduce then, and it is now as well. At some point, dead needs to mean dead. Now, no one's ever really gone. If you want to just super establish that someone is definitely, absolutely dead, you have to out right cut them in half. Anyone can understand that you don't come back from that.
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Schwarzwald posted:If you want to just super establish that someone is definitely, absolutely dead, you have to out right cut them in half. Now where's my ten-part epic fantasy adventure featuring Maul's Legs? Why does only his torso get any attention?
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General Dog posted:I know soul transfer was something that had already appeared in the old EU, but it was a terrible element to introduce then, and it is now as well. At some point, dead needs to mean dead. Now, no one's ever really gone. I think the book is at least portraying the whole soul transfer thing as what Palpatine was talking about, in ROTS, that Plagueis had discovered as a way to "cheat death", and it's implied he's basically the only person who ever figured out how to do it, so now the secret will die with Sheev. Which is a little better, and ties it back to ROTS. I just wish they had included it in the movie, somehow.
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thrawn527 posted:I think the book is at least portraying the whole soul transfer thing as what Palpatine was talking about, in ROTS, that Plagueis had discovered as a way to "cheat death", and it's implied he's basically the only person who ever figured out how to do it, so now the secret will die with Sheev. Which is a little better, and ties it back to ROTS. I just wish they had included it in the movie, somehow. How do we know Palpatine is even dead? And if he is, how do we know he didn’t write it down somewhere or put it in a holocron or something?
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General Dog posted:How do we know Palpatine is even dead? And if he is, how do we know he didn’t write it down somewhere or put it in a holocron or something? He's dead for sure. Until Episode XII when they change that, too.
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There’s always another clone.
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Ian McDiarmid getting the Tarkin Treatment every six years post death seems about right.
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https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1235373107692503040?s=19 It would have been amazing to see a wrinkly-rear end Sheev in those flashback scenes.
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Wouldn’t that make Sheev genetically Rey's father?
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look here disney you of all people can't just turn around and say that palpatine does not, in fact, gently caress
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Zoran posted:Wouldn’t that make Sheev genetically Rey's father? Kind of? But I think biologically the son isn’t a 100% Sheev since he’s not Force sensitive.
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Teek posted:Kind of? But I think biologically the son isn’t a 100% Sheev since he’s not Force sensitive. And also he is capable of loving
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Teek posted:Kind of? But I think biologically the son isn’t a 100% Sheev since he’s not Force sensitive. ah I suppose they forgot to clone his mcDNA (midichlorial DNA)
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I'm gonna ignore that revelation because the thought of Sheev laying pipe like he's a plumber is much more entertaining that saying he made a clone. Palpatines Fucks is Canon 
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Palpatine can clone himself and also be a kind, passionate - yet forceful when necessary, or asked - lover who dumps the fattest loads in the galaxy far far away.
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Unlimited Powah
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