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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:
lol you're the only person that saw that thread and didn't think "this person needs to log off".

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Gorn Myson posted:

lol you're the only person that saw that thread and didn't think "this person needs to log off".

Yeah she done gone lost her drat mind tbh

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

Are you posting this spectacularly thick libs meltdown unironically? If so then Jesus wept. Shut up lib

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

This is absolutely horrific. Fed up with the bigoted shite the guardian pumps out from its wing of sad old liberals.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
My sixty-year-old jewish american mom is marrying some equally old english dude and she is probably going to his place in Devon. Is there anything I should know? I don't trust you folks, especially because now brexit is officially happened?

Also she speaks french and I am french via my dad, is visiting going to change? Are you going to be mean to her?

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 3, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

My sixty-year-old jewish american mom is marrying some equally old english dude and she is probably going to his place in Devon. Is there anything I should know? I don't trust you folks, especially because now brexit is officially happened?

Old, lives in devon, owns house, probably megatory, do not trust.

Also definitely get involved in sectarian conflict with cornwall over how to put cream and jam on scones.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Mar 3, 2020

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Are you going to be mean to her?

Because shes jewish? No. American? Maybe.

Regarding the suzanne moore guardian article,

guardian posted:

Living your best life would be one free of male violence. It is not feminists who murder trans people...

Male violence is an issue for women, which is why we want single-sex spaces.

Like, think about what you're saying?

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Chapo seems to be reaching so many people now. It's quite incredible how far they have come.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
This is the woman and her article who caused that insane twitter thread lol

https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1233807340945567744?s=19
https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1233814737357434881?s=19
https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/1233819126419734529?s=19

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

My sixty-year-old jewish american mom is marrying some equally old english dude and she is probably going to his place in Devon. Is there anything I should know? I don't trust you folks, especially because now brexit is officially happened?

Also she speaks french and I am french via my dad, is visiting going to change? Are you going to be mean to her?

No we only hate muslims, trans people, EuroPEONS and and climate activists.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

I don't know why I looked at the replies. The terf set have really developed mass sealioning to a fine art

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Angepain posted:

I don't know why I looked at the replies. The terf set have really developed mass sealioning to a fine art

Every single reply condemning the article is met with multiple responses supporting it. It's wild.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

stev posted:

Every single reply condemning the article is met with multiple responses supporting it. It's wild.

I wonder if any of them are online enough to have seen the mass abuse tactics of gamergate et al and have to hold in their head that it's completely different when they do it because they're justified

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Angepain posted:

I wonder if any of them are online enough to have seen the mass abuse tactics of gamergate et al and have to hold in their head that it's completely different when they do it because they're justified

Glinner's route to Terfdom explicitly included fighting against Gamergate, so in at least one case yes.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Glinner's route to Terfdom explicitly included fighting against Gamergate, so in at least one case yes.

He got outed as a chaser as well though lol

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Jose posted:

He got outed as a chaser as well though lol

Chaser?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Munin posted:

Chaser?

Specific fetishitsic attraction to people from a particular minority group, because of their membership of that group (term also applies to other specific fetishistic attractions to minority groups, including amputees, people with dwarfism, etc, but from context, presumably to trans women in this instance).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It's not always a negative, sometimes in the gay scene it can puckishly refer to subcultures that reject certain forms of body policing, like with chubs and chasers (who are as likely as not to be in the first group too).

With ethnic groups and trans people, especially trans women, chasers always seem to be weird gross stalker types though.

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
It has been (0) days since the cis were at it again

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

People saying woe is us we will all eventually get the coronavirus really need to stop. Frankly it's not helpful.

Right now there appears to be a low level of community transmission in the UK but no widespread outbreak, this will likely worsen in the coming weeks.

HOWEVER basic hygiene practices actually are really important for a number of reasons. Firstly worst case predictions max out around 40-60% of the population getting the virus (not simultaneously, overall) so there is a good chance even in the worst case scenario you may not get it.

Secondly, and this is the big one, the ability of the NHS to treat those infected with the virus is massively massively increased the more spread out the outbreak is. Every winter the NHS gets wrecked by the annual cold and flu season and we are on the downslope from that peak now. Every week we delay a large outbreak means less pressure on the system from cold/flu and spreading out the outbreak means less overall pressure at the peak of the outbreak. If the system gets overwhelmed we will see a lot of people dying who might have survived because our ability to treat them is compromised.

Thirdly, a vaccine is coming. Not anytime soon and i'd be shocked if we saw anything before this time next year but it is on the way and if we can hold off the outbreak until it is done, or at least limit its severity we will have a lot more options for containing and mitigating the outbreak.

So please, stop spreading fear and wash your loving hands.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Keep your kids away from your parents is another huge one.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Jippa posted:

Keep your kids away from your parents is another huge one.

Yeah I've forbidden my mum from visiting us. She has copd from a lifetime of smoking and already nearly died from catching a standard cold from our kids two years ago. Coronavirus sounds like it would be really really bad for her.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
it's a real ideological slight of hand to imply loving weev attended occupy because he was a leftist, then because something something he left and became a nazi. if I'm not mistaken he had a loving swastika tattooed on his chest at that point and had been ostracised from programming communities for being a fuckin nazi.

the actual lesson there - that we need to be vigorous in policing our movements for actual, literal Nazis - one of the reasons occupy wasn't an actual left wing movement, instead liberally demanding no ideological intent - is twisted to prove that we need to police people who are mean because they might transmogrify into Nazis.

Melissa McCarthyism
Jan 18, 2007

I don't know why I'm posting this here, but 3 months of Post Viral Fatigue and mounting debts have forced me to seek help. I'm attending my first counselling session today. I've been keeping so many things to myself instead of reaching out for help. I guess this post is a reach out for help, in of itself. I've suffered 8 years of PTSD, low mood, sleep trouble, random spurts of uncontrollable rage. It's a lot of weight to carry. And I'm very tired

I'm considering asking to be put onto antidepressants, I've been on Citalopram before - Made me an emotion zombie. Put me off. But I think I need something.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

CoolCab posted:

it's a real ideological slight of hand to imply loving weev attended occupy because he was a leftist, then because something something he left and became a nazi. if I'm not mistaken he had a loving swastika tattooed on his chest at that point and had been ostracised from programming communities for being a fuckin nazi.

the actual lesson there - that we need to be vigorous in policing our movements for actual, literal Nazis - one of the reasons occupy wasn't an actual left wing movement, instead liberally demanding no ideological intent - is twisted to prove that we need to police people who are mean because they might transmogrify into Nazis.

Well the Nazi tattoo happened while he was in prison for the AT&T hack which was after his Occupy had mostly petered out - however predating them both was his involvement with GNAA and all the other "hilarity" of that 4chan/ED/lj-drama generation of "ironic" extreme-right "trolling". Dude was a self-evident danger - and one defended to the hilt by a lot of the younger generation of Centrist Brains - long before he ever got involved with Occupy. He's basically the Count Dankula for people who thought "POOL IS CLOSED DUE TO AIDS" was brave free speech warfare.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
https://twitter.com/EdSimpsonNI/status/1234750463440015360?s=19

Want a sausage roll now

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006


Classic Trin Tragula

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Coohoolin posted:

Info pls? My coop stocks one of the Beavertowns and as we're IWW affiliated that's obviously Not Good.
PMed

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Bit of a longread, but it's FT so I can't link to it due to paywall.

This is some of the most cocaine-fueled Tory poo poo ever, and yet another demonstration of how elites band together and how money buys access about this hideous group called Quintessentially who can pave your way into elite society.

Also the head of this squidfirm is also co-chair of the Tory party, responsible for fundraising.

quote:

‘Knowing the right people’: the luxury concierge with elite connections
Quintessentially, whose founders include the Tories’ co-chair, has faced claims of mismanagement

An invitation to an event at No 10 Downing Street? Not a problem. A place at one of England’s most prestigious schools? Consider it done. The chance to mingle with Prince Harry at a Coldplay concert? Leave it to us.

These are the sorts of services that Quintessentially, a London-based luxury concierge service, claims to have arranged for its well-heeled clients. Boasting powerful connections across British society, the company has marketed itself for two decades as a personal assistant to the 0.1 per cent.

At the centre of the operation is the company’s 44-year-old co-founder, Ben Elliot, an old Etonian who moves effortlessly across a social circle that mixes the royal family, the Conservative party and the City of London.

The nephew of Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, he is frequently photographed with her husband, Prince Charles, the future king. Mr Elliot is also a friend of influential politicians including prime minister Boris Johnson.


That sort of access dovetails with the sales pitch from Quintessentially. The company advertises that it has secured clients a private dinner at Buckingham Palace hosted by Mr Elliot and invitations to events where customers might rub shoulders with political figures. Prince Charles is quoted in a promotional video for Quintessentially, praising its services.

Mr Elliot’s networking skills have proved to be useful. Last July, he was made co-chair of the Conservative party where his list of contacts helped raise funds for Mr Johnson’s triumphant election campaign in December.

He also has a growing presence in Whitehall. Mr Elliot was appointed in January 2019 as the government’s first “food waste tsar”, an unpaid role, to raise awareness about the issue. Quintessentially has also signed up the government’s department for international trade as a client of its door-opening services.

But behind Mr Elliot’s high-profile web of relationships and society image, his company has confronted difficult questions.

Quintessentially — which recorded losses in its last two sets of results — has faced allegations of financial mismanagement and has been accused of a macho, Mad Men-style working culture.

Late last year Quintessentially paid millions of pounds to settle a lawsuit brought by two of its senior female executives, the Financial Times can reveal. The claim contained criticism of the management style of Mr Elliot and the company’s other two co-founders, Aaron Simpson and Paul Drummond.

The High Court petition, seen by the FT, contained accusations that Mr Elliot, who once described himself as a “relentless, bossy fucker”, and his co-founders created a hostile environment for the two women.

The lawsuit cited an independent report from 2018 by accountants Albert Goodman, alleging serious problems in the way the company was run. Quintessentially’s structure was “opaque and complex”, the report said, and it claimed that the group’s directors took “substantial” management fees and “aggressive” dividends from the operating companies.

The result of the payments had allegedly been to make Quintessentially’s events business “technically insolvent”, according to the report.

The lawsuit also cited a recording of a board meeting in February 2019 during which Quintessentially’s directors discussed the possibility of reducing a corporation tax payment, estimated to be £260,000. According to the legal complaint, Mr Elliot, who has cultivated the government as a client, was alleged to have said at the prospect of paying that amount in tax: “We can’t give the loving thing to the government.”

Quintessentially told the Financial Times it “categorically denied” that Mr Elliot made the statement and said it was “simply untrue”. It denied all of the allegations contained in the claim and said the dispute had been “fully resolved”. Mr Elliot declined to be interviewed for this article. Mr Drummond did not provide any comment.

The secret to Quintessentially’s success, Mr Elliot has said, is “knowing the right people to contact, for the right favour”.

The company was born in 2000 in the shadow of the royal family. After Eton and Bristol University, Mr Elliot was introduced to Mr Simpson, a former film producer, and Mr Drummond, a lawyer, through his cousin, Tom Parker-Bowles, the Duchess of Cornwall’s son.

It offers clients “anything you want, anytime you want it, anywhere you want it”, as well as access to exclusive events. Quintessentially’s latest brochure advertises “membership highlights” that have in the past included “access to an intimate charity event with Samantha Cameron at 10 Downing Street”, referring to the wife of the former prime minister, and “a personal invitation to a fundraiser hosted by HRH Prince of Wales at Windsor Castle”.

Ever-grander ideas have been dreamt up. In 2017, the company said it was building a 220-metre superyacht that would be the “world’s largest floating private members club for the global elite” — although the yacht has yet to materialise.


“He’s a big personality and a big person physically,” says someone who has worked closely with Mr Elliot. “He’s an impressive person to talk to and he’s good with clients. His challenge was managing people and working with staff, he has an abrupt manner.”

Quintessentially made a loss of £833,000 in its first year, but grew rapidly to more than 1,000 staff and 30 subsidiary companies that have included an art dealership, a florist, an estate agency and a chauffeur service.

From its roots reserving top restaurants and booking theatre tickets for individual members, the company has tried to branch out in different areas — signing up corporate clients and opening its contacts book for the British government.

Since 2016, the department for international trade has paid Quintessentially £1.4m to introduce Whitehall officials to high-net worth individuals so they can “network at the highest levels”, according to a contract seen by the FT. Quintessentially arranges “exceptional visits” for civil servants to meet high-net worth individuals and convince them to invest in the UK, according to the contract.

Quintessentially has also looked to corporate customers to fuel growth. One former senior employee says the majority of the 160,000 customers the company claims to have came through corporate contracts. Quintessentially has disputed this but declined to provide the breakdown of members.

Several people close to the business say that a model tailored to individual needs sometimes suffered when applied on a larger scale.

HSBC, which offered Quintessentially’s services to its wealthy Jade account holders, and British Airways, which partnered with the company to promote its services in the first class lounge at Heathrow airport, did not renew their contracts in 2018.

HSBC said the bank had reviewed its relationship with Quintessentially and decided to move to a different provider after just 12 months.

Quintessentially says the BA and HSBC contracts were not renewed for “specific business reasons . . . unrelated to customer service or feedback”, pointing to a redesign of the airport facilities and a shift in strategy at the bank.

Other members have expressed disappointment. A publicist from Chicago told the FT she was offered three tiers of membership that started at $8,500 a year and rose to $40,000 for “Quintessence” — a 13-month invite-only subscription that included dinner at Buckingham Palace, VIP packages to the Sundance and Cannes film festivals, and a tennis tournament with Richard Branson on his private Caribbean island.

She signed up for its “bespoke elite” membership, which cost $21,000 per year. It promised 24-hour global access to a personal “lifestyle manager” who would organise “travel, VIP event access, exclusive dinners, top hotel access, hard to get restaurant reservations” and more, according to emails seen by the Financial Times.

But the publicist did not feel it was value for money. “They promised anything, but . . . I ended up paying for one restaurant reservation and a PDF guide to London telling me to shop at Harrods.”


Quintessentially says it has an 88 per cent renewal rate for customers, and that its internal monitoring system for member satisfaction shows a “net promoter score of nine out of 10”. It provided the names of three customers who were willing to share positive experiences about the company.

One of them, a well-known City businesswoman who did not want to be named, says she knew Mr Elliot before becoming a client and now pays “hundreds of pounds” a month as a retainer for Quintessentially services.

The company had helped her find a house and move her family from Scotland to London, as well as finding hotel rooms and a tutor for her child. “They got everything set up, got us a discount and even stocked the fridge,” she says.

Quintessentially prides itself on an ability to plan meticulously extravagant events — it claims to have helped a Saudi member host a party for 300 guests at the Pyramids in Egypt.

But several insiders say it has struggled to manage its own complicated empire of subsidiary businesses.

In 2015, according to several people familiar with the situation, Quintessentially talked to WPP about selling itself to the advertising group. A person close to WPP says the potential deal was called off at an early stage: “It was [like] a rabbit warren.”

In 2018 the founders launched a restructuring of the company’s web of businesses to consolidate dozens of subsidiaries under group control. This meant rolling about 30 of its subsidiaries, whose management teams held significant equity interests, into the group company, Quintessentially UK.

The legal claim brought against Quintessentially last year was linked to that restructuring. The petition was issued by Anabel Fielding and Caroline Villamizar-Duque, co-founders of Quintessentially Media, an events business that has organised parties for clients including the Prince of Wales and Facebook. The two women argued the shake-up unfairly devalued their stakes in the company.

The claim also alleged that Mr Elliot and his two co-founders supervised the movement of money between UK and overseas subsidiaries in a series of loans, share transactions and dividends to help fund the group. At one stage, cash flow difficulties left the group unable to pay its staff, the claim alleged.

“Due to a large payment, Q group has insufficient funds to make payroll this month (which would obviously [be] negative for the Quintessentially brand),” Mr Drummond said in an email to Ms Fielding and Ms Villamizar-Duque in November 2018, in which he requested their events business provide funds to support the group, according to their claim.

It also said a dividend paid to the founders from Quintessentially Events “took the company very substantially into a deficit” of £602,000 in 2017. Citing the report by the external accountants, the claim said that the dividend “could be deemed to be illegal”.

The company disputes all of the allegations contained in the claim and says the matter has been “fully resolved”. It adds: “Any suggestion that the directors of Quintessentially UK have breached their fiduciary duties and/or they have failed to act in the best interests of the company are vehemently denied.”

Quintessentially settled the claim out of court. The resulting restructuring of the group left two charges over its assets that gave Ms Fielding and Ms Villamizar-Duque rights to equity in the group, according to people briefed on the matter and filings at Companies House.

Quintessentially UK Ltd — the holding company before the recent reorganisation — recorded a £3.1m loss in the latest available accounts and a £1.8m fall in revenue to £23.1m in the 12 months to May 2018. It blamed the drop in revenue on pulled corporate contracts and bad debts related to a customer that went bust. In 2017, the company made a loss of £2.8m, after a £359,000 profit the previous year.

The pressures on the business have made its headquarters near London’s Regent’s Park a sometimes turbulent place, according to several former employees. They have criticised the company’s leadership in interviews with the FT, citing a high turnover of staff, dissatisfaction over levels of pay and tirades by some of its directors.

In a typo-strewn email sent by Mr Simpson in 2018 to the heads of Quintessentially’s subsidiaries, cited in the claim brought by Ms Fielding and Ms Villamizar-Duque, he wrote:

“Anyone whop questions any decisions I am not making and doesn’t act on what I am saying is immediately fired for gross misconduct.” He added: “I am not FIGHTING OVER ANY OF THIS. You listen to what I say and you act on it for the greater good of all in this company. I don’t wasn’t any decision queries. I will be responsible for any mistakes I make, no you. Reply that I have full agreement and that you understand what I am saying.”


“There was so much masculine bravado at the top of the organisation,” one former staff member recalls. A separate former executive, who reported directly to the founders, says: “The place felt Mad Men-esque, it was old school.”

A third former employee adds: “Ben was a very different figure to the image of him we would read about in the media. Some of us found it quite hard to square the [public image of a] charismatic, charitable Ben with the man who shouted in the office and reduced some younger staff to tears.”

However, Annastasia Seebohm, who was appointed in 2018 to run the company, disputes this. “The culture here is so far from macho,” she says, citing her own rapid rise from a business development assistant in the group’s Athens office to global chief executive in under eight years while in her early 30s. She points to the fact that 70 per cent of the group’s senior executive team are women.

“Some employees when they leave are disgruntled but we have a wonderful network of former employees that remain very close to the business and a happy team,” Ms Seebohm adds.

Mr Elliot’s status in UK politics has continued to rise since the Conservative party’s general election win in December. He was lauded within the party for raising funds for the campaign.

This month he retained his role as co-chair of the party, despite a reshuffle in which Mr Johnson replaced his colleague in the same position. Senior executives at Quintessentially insist that Mr Elliott has no problem in managing his public and private sector roles.


The company says its next financial results are likely to show a very different picture. Its first global consolidated accounts will be filed before the end of March. Preliminary results showed an 8 per cent growth in revenues to about £80m, the company says, with earnings of £3m before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation. Insiders say relationships with big name clients, such as Facebook and Gucci, are growing.

“It’s clear that we are in great shape,” says Mr Simpson.

Welcome to the oligarchy everyone!

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Interested in that $21k pdf.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Oh in case you like pictures to go with your revolting people:



This is Ben Elliot.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I can see why so many of the people in those circles are interested in eugenics.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




I know it's poor form to talk about appearance but why do these fucks always look like a Bash Street Kids character became flesh?

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Junior G-man posted:

Oh in case you like pictures to go with your revolting people:



This is Ben Elliot.

Is it any wonder why us scots want to get away from these

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Melissa McCarthyism posted:

I don't know why I'm posting this here, but 3 months of Post Viral Fatigue and mounting debts have forced me to seek help. I'm attending my first counselling session today. I've been keeping so many things to myself instead of reaching out for help. I guess this post is a reach out for help, in of itself. I've suffered 8 years of PTSD, low mood, sleep trouble, random spurts of uncontrollable rage. It's a lot of weight to carry. And I'm very tired

I'm considering asking to be put onto antidepressants, I've been on Citalopram before - Made me an emotion zombie. Put me off. But I think I need something.

Solidarity friend. We are very much here fore this kind of posting, we'll jump right on down in that hole with you, between us we can build a way out.

Talking to someone about it is a huge first step, I hope it goes well for you. Keep it up even if it feels long and difficult.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

My boss came in this morning (small business, he owns it) and told us flat out that if we have to self-isolate 'you can gently caress off if you think I'm paying you.'

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Bardeh posted:

My boss came in this morning (small business, he owns it) and told us flat out that if we have to self-isolate 'you can gently caress off if you think I'm paying you.'

Small business tyrants really are some of the worst loving people.

I hope he tasted good as you feasted on him.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bardeh posted:

My boss came in this morning (small business, he owns it) and told us flat out that if we have to self-isolate 'you can gently caress off if you think I'm paying you.'

Go in and cough all over him. Even if you're not actually sick.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Junior G-man posted:

Small business tyrants really are some of the worst loving people.

Yeah - I've learned this. Dude can be nice as anything, but he's a clock watcher and a control freak. We work 45 hour weeks, and he's constantly saying how he can't ever find people who 'want to go the extra mile' - meaning staying late unpaid to show loyalty, basically. Fuuuuck that. 45 hours is already a long fuckin week, especially for what he's paying me.

This is the first time I've ever worked for a small business, and while I'm getting what I wanted from the job (skills to take me further in the industry), it's tiring having to deal with his whims. Luckily I'm mostly based in a small satellite office so I mostly work on my own, and if I can stick it out for a year or two I can move onto somewhere larger where I won't have people constantly breathing down my neck.

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Bardeh posted:

My boss came in this morning (small business, he owns it) and told us flat out that if we have to self-isolate 'you can gently caress off if you think I'm paying you.'

Your boss is the kind of oval office who after the Tories make a bonfire of workers rights will be saying exactly the same thing except replacing "self-isolate" with "take a half day for your mother's funeral". I could wish that you and your colleagues had simply downed tools and walked out.

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