Camrath posted:

All bags of fudge cost £3.50; get a box of five for £15! Postage costs for up to a kilogram are £3.55; for larger orders please ask. 🙂

Angepain posted:

hmm lads, i've decided this man has a terrible disease due to his nationality. let's all engage in prolonged physical contact with him and his blood. this is a good plan

Camrath posted:

And this month’s goon special: ‘The Great Divider’, made with the dreaded Terry’s Chocolate Orange.

Lungboy posted:

What's the story behind this?

ThomasPaine posted:

someone I used to work with in retail had alcohol sanitiser because she was convinced currency was an insane source of all sorts of contagions, I always thought she was being overzealous but eh who knows now

quote:

Future Microbiol. 2014;9(2):249-61. doi: 10.2217/fmb.13.161.
Paper money and coins as potential vectors of transmissible disease.
Angelakis E1, Azhar EI, Bibi F, Yasir M, Al-Ghamdi AK, Ashshi AM, Elshemi AG, Raoult D.
Author information
Abstract
Paper currency and coins may be a public health risk when associated with the simultaneous handling of food and could lead to the spread of nosocomial infections. Banknotes recovered from hospitals may be highly contaminated by Staphylococcus aureus. Salmonella species, Escherichia coli and S. aureus are commonly isolated from banknotes from food outlets. Laboratory simulations revealed that methicillin-resistant S. aureus can easily survive on coins, whereas E. coli, Salmonella species and viruses, including human influenza virus, Norovirus, Rhinovirus, hepatitis A virus, and Rotavirus, can be transmitted through hand contact. Large-scale, 16S rRNA, metagenomic studies and culturomics have the capacity to dramatically expand the known diversity of bacteria and viruses on money and fomites. This review summarizes the latest research on the potential of paper currency and coins to serve as sources of pathogenic agents.

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm genuinely worried for the sizable number of Chinese (and Asian in general, because yes racism) students in Britain, and in particular the significant number who don't speak particularly great English and can't effectively communicate particularly under duress. They don't deserve the inevitable poo poo that's going to be flung at them as a result of the coronavirus stuff. Even outside of that, the reception we give them as a nation is loving embarrassing when compared to how westerners are treated over there in general.

Pilchenstein posted:

How much does a box/bag weigh?

marktheando posted:

Yeah my friend's Chinese dad has had a big decline in customers at the restaurant he works at, and has had people moving away from him on buses and the like.

Camrath posted:

Each bag is 100g; a box is 500g total.

quote:

'Generation Me' must start thinking about others if we're to stop the spread of coronavirus

RockyB posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/generation-must-start-thinking-others-stop-spread-coronavirus/


Anybody got access to this, I want to get good and angry at the woman who claimed the kid lying on the floor in A&E was faked.

quote:

You can tell that this coronavirus thing has got serious. Not because the Prime Minister yesterday published a “battle plan”, but because the French have banned kissing. That doesn’t mean giving up snogging their mistresses, obviously. There are limits to the sacrifices anyone can reasonably be expected to make. But those two-cheek pecks for acquaintances have been suspended, as is the Anglo-Saxon handshake, while governments and virologists figure out whether we’ll all be dead in six weeks, or should press pause on that holiday.

Meanwhile, we are supposed to tap feet or bump elbows to greet one another and generally carry on like a scout unit trying to master Ging Gang Goolie.

Not me. Frankly, I was damned if I was going to panic. No way would I be scouring the internet for a stupid face-mask that offered little or no protection. As for global markets, they were showing a pathetic lack of gumption. A few thousands people catch a cold from bat soup in China and the Dow Jones is in intensive care before you can say, “Bless you!”

What is wrong with people? In the West, life is so comfortable that we have forgotten what real peril is and the merest wrinkle turns into a mountain range.

Bang on cue, my favourite New York hypochondriac Facetimed me to share a personal triumph. Sheryl told me that she had managed to purchase five hazmat suits to protect her immediate family from the coronavirus.

“What, not those weird decontamination outfits they wear alien films?” I asked.

“Yeah, those. You think I’m ridiculous, right?”

“No, err, is hazmat kosher?”

Yes, of course I thought she was being ridiculous. And then I went to Waitrose. Picking up some hand sanitiser seemed like a sensible precaution, particularly as I was heading into London where escalator handrails have been touched by a million clammy mitts. The shelves were not just empty, they appeared to have been recently ransacked. Nearby soap dispensers were all cleaned out as well. It was eerie. The feeling of relief that surged through me when I found one remaining anti-bacterial liquid which, in the melee, had found its way into the shampoos, was almost overwhelming.

This competitive fear of not being fearful enough – or less well-protected than others - took me by surprise. Covid-19 is highly contagious, but so is panic. Overnight, I became obsessive. I bought rubbing alcohol to sterilise our electronic devices. I used my my sleeve to open doors. I lectured my family on washing their hands. The touching sight of a line of women at the basins in the John Lewis loos, all silently mouthing the first verse of God Save the Queen as they soaped fingers and thumbs, was proof that I was not alone. We were all doing our bit.

But it was more than that. Faced with this new threat, something atavistic kicked in. People started stockpiling food and medical supplies. Shortages meant higher prices. One London pharmacy was caught selling a £1.99 hand sanitizer for just under thirty quid. When I managed to bag a box of antimicrobial wipes at vast expense on Amazon, I actually found myself gloating. After all, antimicrobial is SO superior to antibacterial for combatting corona!

What on earth had got into me? I was behaving exactly like the kind of selfish, panic-stricken nightmare I usually despise.

The fact is the coronavirus presents us with a challenge that is as much about the duty we owe to one another as it is about preventing its spread. The two are intimately linked. To keep down the number of fatalities, those of us who are stronger are going to have to put the interests of the weakest first. Britons will need to show stoicism, patience and resourcefulness - virtues we may suspect are in short supply if not extinct. Is our selfish, highly individualistic, me-me-me society up to meeting that challenge?

Despite what you may have read, this is neither the Black Death nor one of those terrifying fevers that carried off Thomas Cromwell’s wife and small daughters in Hilary Mantel’s Wolf Hall trilogy. Covid-19 may be making headlines, but what they don’t tell you is that many thousands who have already had it are now fully recovered. Seasonal influenza kills between 290,000 and 650,00 people worldwide each year. There are 90,000 coronavirus cases so far, with about 3,000 deaths.

The latter does seem to have a higher fatality rate, but some groups are a lot more vulnerable than others. Eight out of ten people who get corona will have only a mild illness. (Worth bearing in mind when you are engaged in a fight to the death for the last packet of Nurofen). Children rarely catch it, thank goodness. The people at the greatest risk are the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

To be blunt, if a generally healthy person with symptoms of the coronavirus turns up at A&E demanding treatment, chances are they will infect a vulnerable person – perhaps someone undergoing chemotherapy - who won’t be able to fight it off. Such hospital places as are available should rightfully belong to the very sick and older people who will need all the help they can get. As Marc Lipsitch, the director of the US’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, puts it: “The emphasis has shifted from stopping them from infecting us to stopping us from infecting each other.”

Can the “Me” generation, who have never been denied anything in their privileged lives, be relied upon to self-isolate or will they start whingeing how “stressy” it all is when the authorities try to curtail their freedom to even a minor degree? The first person to get coronavirus in North Korea was shot. An option some of us might wish was available here when that thoughtless prat on the train coughs enthusiastically over his elderly neighbour.

I’m afraid that the current mumps epidemic shows what we’re up against. Two of my friend’s children, both in their twenties, are among the thousands of students who have suffered in the past year from this horrible disease. Mumps had largely died out, but there was a fall in the uptake of the MMR vaccine in the Nineties, when the current generation of students was born. My friend’s son and daughter were both vaccinated, but it turns out that wasn’t enough to protect them against this resurgent strain.

Those of us who obediently did as we were told, now see our own youngsters put in danger by those self-righteous anti-vaxxers who watched alarmist videos online and decided they knew better than the medical establishment. Their little darlings would be protected, or so they thought, because enough responsible parents would make sure their children had the jab and thus guarantee herd immunity.

Only it hasn’t worked out like that. Believing that not vaccinating little Harry or Hettie is more important than the chance they could get measles, give it to a pregnant woman and blind her unborn baby, is the height of selfish individualism - one of the most aggressive and incurable sicknesses of the modern age.

Well, the coronavirus now demands that we take one for the herd. If we all do as we’re told to by the Chief Medical Officer, if we pull together, follow sensible advice and modify our behaviour; if we accept that our non-emergency operation may be cancelled because doctors and nurses are needed elsewhere, then countless lives will be saved. Even if everyone just washed their hands it would reduce the spread of infection by over half. That’s an awful lot of beloved grandparents not put in mortal danger.

It’s up to the younger and the stronger now to repay the sacrifices of the older generation with sacrifices of their own. To prove that, when it really matters, the “Me” generation can become “Us”. Too many lives are in their sanitised hands.

Allison Pearson's columns are published on telegraph.co.uk at 7pm every Tuesday.

RockyB posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/generation-must-start-thinking-others-stop-spread-coronavirus/


Anybody got access to this, I want to get good and angry at the woman who claimed the kid lying on the floor in A&E was faked.

quote:

You can tell that this coronavirus thing has got serious. Not because the Prime Minister yesterday published a “battle plan”, but because the French have banned kissing. That doesn’t mean giving up snogging their mistresses, obviously. There are limits to the sacrifices anyone can reasonably be expected to make. But those two-cheek pecks for acquaintances have been suspended, as is the Anglo-Saxon handshake, while governments and virologists figure out whether we’ll all be dead in six weeks, or should press pause on that holiday.

Meanwhile, we are supposed to tap feet or bump elbows to greet one another and generally carry on like a scout unit trying to master Ging Gang Goolie.

Not me. Frankly, I was damned if I was going to panic. No way would I be scouring the internet for a stupid face-mask that offered little or no protection. As for global markets, they were showing a pathetic lack of gumption. A few thousands people catch a cold from bat soup in China and the Dow Jones is in intensive care before you can say, “Bless you!”

What is wrong with people? In the West, life is so comfortable that we have forgotten what real peril is and the merest wrinkle turns into a mountain range.

Bang on cue, my favourite New York hypochondriac Facetimed me to share a personal triumph. Sheryl told me that she had managed to purchase five hazmat suits to protect her immediate family from the coronavirus.

“What, not those weird decontamination outfits they wear alien films?” I asked.

“Yeah, those. You think I’m ridiculous, right?”

“No, err, is hazmat kosher?”

Yes, of course I thought she was being ridiculous. And then I went to Waitrose. Picking up some hand sanitiser seemed like a sensible precaution, particularly as I was heading into London where escalator handrails have been touched by a million clammy mitts. The shelves were not just empty, they appeared to have been recently ransacked. Nearby soap dispensers were all cleaned out as well. It was eerie. The feeling of relief that surged through me when I found one remaining anti-bacterial liquid which, in the melee, had found its way into the shampoos, was almost overwhelming.
Coronavirus fatality rate

This competitive fear of not being fearful enough – or less well-protected than others - took me by surprise. Covid-19 is highly contagious, but so is panic. Overnight, I became obsessive. I bought rubbing alcohol to sterilise our electronic devices. I used my my sleeve to open doors. I lectured my family on washing their hands. The touching sight of a line of women at the basins in the John Lewis loos, all silently mouthing the first verse of God Save the Queen as they soaped fingers and thumbs, was proof that I was not alone. We were all doing our bit.

But it was more than that. Faced with this new threat, something atavistic kicked in. People started stockpiling food and medical supplies. Shortages meant higher prices. One London pharmacy was caught selling a £1.99 hand sanitizer for just under thirty quid. When I managed to bag a box of antimicrobial wipes at vast expense on Amazon, I actually found myself gloating. After all, antimicrobial is SO superior to antibacterial for combatting corona!

What on earth had got into me? I was behaving exactly like the kind of selfish, panic-stricken nightmare I usually despise.

The fact is the coronavirus presents us with a challenge that is as much about the duty we owe to one another as it is about preventing its spread. The two are intimately linked. To keep down the number of fatalities, those of us who are stronger are going to have to put the interests of the weakest first. Britons will need to show stoicism, patience and resourcefulness - virtues we may suspect are in short supply if not extinct. Is our selfish, highly individualistic, me-me-me society up to meeting that challenge?

Despite what you may have read, this is neither the Black Death nor one of those terrifying fevers that carried off Thomas Cromwell’s wife and small daughters in Hilary Mantel’s Wolf Hall trilogy. Covid-19 may be making headlines, but what they don’t tell you is that many thousands who have already had it are now fully recovered. Seasonal influenza kills between 290,000 and 650,00 people worldwide each year. There are 90,000 coronavirus cases so far, with about 3,000 deaths.

The latter does seem to have a higher fatality rate, but some groups are a lot more vulnerable than others. Eight out of ten people who get corona will have only a mild illness. (Worth bearing in mind when you are engaged in a fight to the death for the last packet of Nurofen). Children rarely catch it, thank goodness. The people at the greatest risk are the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

To be blunt, if a generally healthy person with symptoms of the coronavirus turns up at A&E demanding treatment, chances are they will infect a vulnerable person – perhaps someone undergoing chemotherapy - who won’t be able to fight it off. Such hospital places as are available should rightfully belong to the very sick and older people who will need all the help they can get. As Marc Lipsitch, the director of the US’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, puts it: “The emphasis has shifted from stopping them from infecting us to stopping us from infecting each other.”

Can the “Me” generation, who have never been denied anything in their privileged lives, be relied upon to self-isolate or will they start whingeing how “stressy” it all is when the authorities try to curtail their freedom to even a minor degree? The first person to get coronavirus in North Korea was shot. An option some of us might wish was available here when that thoughtless prat on the train coughs enthusiastically over his elderly neighbour.

I’m afraid that the current mumps epidemic shows what we’re up against. Two of my friend’s children, both in their twenties, are among the thousands of students who have suffered in the past year from this horrible disease. Mumps had largely died out, but there was a fall in the uptake of the MMR vaccine in the Nineties, when the current generation of students was born. My friend’s son and daughter were both vaccinated, but it turns out that wasn’t enough to protect them against this resurgent strain.

Those of us who obediently did as we were told, now see our own youngsters put in danger by those self-righteous anti-vaxxers who watched alarmist videos online and decided they knew better than the medical establishment. Their little darlings would be protected, or so they thought, because enough responsible parents would make sure their children had the jab and thus guarantee herd immunity.

Only it hasn’t worked out like that. Believing that not vaccinating little Harry or Hettie is more important than the chance they could get measles, give it to a pregnant woman and blind her unborn baby, is the height of selfish individualism - one of the most aggressive and incurable sicknesses of the modern age.

Well, the coronavirus now demands that we take one for the herd. If we all do as we’re told to by the Chief Medical Officer, if we pull together, follow sensible advice and modify our behaviour; if we accept that our non-emergency operation may be cancelled because doctors and nurses are needed elsewhere, then countless lives will be saved. Even if everyone just washed their hands it would reduce the spread of infection by over half. That’s an awful lot of beloved grandparents not put in mortal danger.

It’s up to the younger and the stronger now to repay the sacrifices of the older generation with sacrifices of their own. To prove that, when it really matters, the “Me” generation can become “Us”. Too many lives are in their sanitised hands.

Allison Pearson's columns are published on telegraph.co.uk at 7pm every Tuesday.

OwlFancier posted:

The telegraph is a bad website because you can bypass the paywall by halting the page load half way through.

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm trying to make a point to sit nearby Asian people on public transport as a result of this kind of stuff, obviously not in a big dramatic way. No idea if it's appreciated, but eh


Does your fudge use gluten at all? Billionaire's shortbread sounds great but I'd rather not poo poo myself lol

ThomasPaine posted:

someone I used to work with in retail had alcohol sanitiser because she was convinced currency was an insane source of all sorts of contagions, I always thought she was being overzealous but eh who knows now

OwlFancier posted:

I suspect it's because the only people who would read it do not know how does computer, therefore the solution is good enough.

quote:

It’s up to the younger and the stronger now to repay the sacrifices of the older generation with sacrifices of their own. To prove that, when it really matters, the “Me” generation can become “Us”. Too many lives are in their sanitised hands.

quote:

Can the “Me” generation, who have never been denied anything in their privileged lives, be relied upon to self-isolate or will they start whingeing how “stressy” it all is when the authorities try to curtail their freedom to even a minor degree? 

quote:

The touching sight of a line of women at the basins in the John Lewis loos, all silently mouthing the first verse of God Save the Queen as they soaped fingers and thumbs, was proof that I was not alone. We were all doing our bit.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Up until recently you could read the Independent premium without registering by right clicking, view page source, copy an pasting into notetab lite, pressing the 'remove all html tags' to remove all the crud (which is why I say Notetab Lite' - not aware of another free text editor that will easily zap all the html crud) and then read it.
They seemed to have tightened up though I've managed to catch a couple.

Camrath posted:

Awooga! Awooga! Fudjit is now open for March orders!


Following on from feedback we’re introducing a new flavour and bringing back a couple of old favourites!

March flavours:

Original Vanilla

Milk Chocolate

Unicorn Barf - marshmallows both melted into this and sprinkled on top with crunchy sugar unicorns. A favourite amongst our younger customers!

Billionaire’s Shortbread - As ever, as dense as the heart of a dying star. Just like millionaire’s shortbread only much richer!

Rum and Raisin - A new flavour, due to popular demand!

And this month’s goon special: ‘The Great Divider’, made with the dreaded Terry’s Chocolate Orange.


All bags of fudge cost £3.50; get a box of five for £15! Postage costs for up to a kilogram are £3.55; for larger orders please ask. 🙂

As always, please drop us a message here or to Fudjit.orders@gmail.com to place an order. Payment is accepted via PayPal or direct bank transfer 🙂

All orders will ship on Thursday March 26th

Oh and anyone with ideas how to make non-disgusting monster munch fudge, I am all ears

Ms Adequate posted:

Hello yes I would like to place an order for one (1) short tonne of fudge please and thank you!

Regarde Aduck posted:

Not looking good for Bernie. Which means not looking good for us I guess. It was nice to dream of a world where those American medical companies didn't exist and so couldn't feast upon our vulnerable brexited bones.

ThomasPaine posted:

Does your fudge use gluten at all? Billionaire's shortbread sounds great but I'd rather not poo poo myself lol

Prince John posted:

It’s up to the younger and the stronger now to repay the sacrifices of the older generation with sacrifices of their own. To prove that, when it really matters, the “Me” generation can become “Us”. Too many lives are in their sanitised hands.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

TBH President Bernie would only make the situation worse for us because those American healthcare companies (which already have their claws in the NHS) would throw everything they have at cracking it open in order to replace the profits lost in the US.

OwlFancier posted:

Some counterrevolutionary elements within our thread have questioned the validity of the chocolate orange as a tool of revolutionary struggle. I have suggested to the commissariat that such revisionist ideology ought to be purged, however as yet no action has been taken.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Up until recently you could read the Independent premium without registering by right clicking, view page source, copy an pasting into notetab lite, pressing the 'remove all html tags' to remove all the crud (which is why I say Notetab Lite' - not aware of another free text editor that will easily zap all the html crud) and then read it.
They seemed to have tightened up though I've managed to catch a couple.

Josef bugman posted:

it feels like people who are older and more comfortable just don't want to hear about anything which makes them feel bad/ asks them to change

NotJustANumber99 posted:

If you want to read it so badly couldn't you just I dunno buy the newspaper?

quote:

The last printed edition was published on Saturday 26 March 2016, leaving only the online edition

Lungboy posted:

Chocolate Orange supremecy! Down with the non-believers!

Miftan posted:

mrpwase posted:

And yet you have a Chocolate Orange avatar! I am very smart.

Mebh posted:

Still can't get the nerds at work to wash their drat hands after the toilet though. People were laughing that I have a giant thing of alcohol sanitiser on my desk today.

jackhunter64 posted:

The worst one carried a Greggs pasty in the paper bag into the bathroom, put it on the floor,

Telegraph posted:

It’s up to the younger and the stronger now to repay the sacrifices of the older generation with sacrifices of their own. To prove that, when it really matters, the “Me” generation can become “Us”. Too many lives are in their sanitised hands.

OwlFancier posted:

The telegraph is a bad website because you can bypass the paywall by halting the page load half way through. I am not going to read the article because my preferred form of cognitohazard causes nightmares, not ulcers, but have fun!

quote:

The fact is the coronavirus presents us with a challenge that is as much about the duty we owe to one another as it is about preventing its spread. The two are intimately linked. To keep down the number of fatalities, those of us who are stronger are going to have to put the interests of the weakest first. Britons will need to show stoicism, patience and resourcefulness - virtues we may suspect are in short supply if not extinct. Is our selfish, highly individualistic, me-me-me society up to meeting that challenge?

XMNN posted:

I've read rather more of that article than I would have liked and I'm still not quite sure who the gently caress she thinks is "generation me"

is it Gen X? that's generation me?

Jedit posted:

Why are you asking, when it's about 95% sugar by weight?

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Up until recently you could read the Independent premium without registering by right clicking, view page source, copy an pasting into notetab lite, pressing the 'remove all html tags' to remove all the crud (which is why I say Notetab Lite' - not aware of another free text editor that will easily zap all the html crud) and then read it.
They seemed to have tightened up though I've managed to catch a couple.